Myth Lord |
Well, we have more than enough pretty nymphs walking and flying around, in many series, cartoons, card games and pictures i've seen the Lady Midday/Poludnica with some burned features, being actually a scary fey, not a pretty female # 10.000.
And the artwork in that AP bestiary of Poludnica is anything but scary or pretty, its a housewive on holy pills.
Barachiel Shina |
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Well, let's not hope for too much AP monsters in here. Some of us either have the APs already or simply can use the stats from Archives of Nethys website. I agree some should be in there, as it has been done before, because not everyone has the APs (though they can easily, again, use Nethys's website), but when I see a new monster book, the idea is NEW monsters after all.
Myth Lord |
Well, let's not hope for too much AP monsters in here. Some of us either have the APs already or simply can use the stats from Archives of Nethys website. I agree some should be in there, as it has been done before, because not everyone has the APs (though they can easily, again, use Nethys's website), but when I see a new monster book, the idea is NEW monsters after all.
I don't want all those AP monsters in the book, but I wouldn't mind those monsters, the only monsters that I really, REALLY want are Raiju, Skrik Nettle, Ammut, Sha and Serpopard.
Zaister |
Do you by any chance have a list of what 3.5 ones from Pathfinder products never got updated to PF rules officially (mostly from APs, but also modules and sourcebooks)? I was considering going through my old books and trying to put one of those together, but it sounds like there's a chance you might already have one.
I have this list here:
- Pathfinder Adventure Path #3: The Hook Mountain Massacre
Argorth; Smoke Haunt - Pathfinder Adventure Path #7: Edge of Anarchy
Dream Spider - Pathfinder Adventure Path #9: Escape from Old Korvosa
Achaekek, the Mantis God; Sikari Macaque Swarm - Pathfinder Adventure Path #10: A History of Ashes
Bonestorm; Cinder Wolf; Havero; Red Reaver - Pathfinder Adventure Path #11: Skeletons of Scarwall
Chained Spirit; Danse Macabre - Pathfinder Adventure Path #12: Crown of Fangs
Akaruzug - Pathfinder Adventure Path #13: Shadow in the Sky
Darklands Sentinel - Pathfinder Adventure Path #15: The Armageddon Echo
Blast Shadow; Cutlass Spider - Pathfinder Adventure Path #16: Endless Night
Deep Crow - Pathfinder Adventure Path #20: House of the Beast
Buraq; Edimmu; Gnoll, Unchosen - Pathfinder Adventure Path #21: The Jackal’s Price
Emkrah; Hadhayosh - Pathfinder Adventure Path #22: The End of Eternity
Coeurl; Miengu; Wyrmskull - Pathfinder Adventure Path #23: The Impossible Eye
Black Djinni; Get of Iblis - Pathfinder Adventure Path #24: The Final Wish
Azi, Gandareva; Azi, Sruvara; Azi, Zahhak; Xotani the Firebleeder - Pathfinder Chronicles: Dark Markets - A Guide to Katapesh
Dhabba; Eel, Sand - GameMastery Module D1: Crown of the Kobold King
Forge Spurned - GameMastery Module W1: Conquest of the Bloodsworn Vale
Drake, Fire; Roseblood Sprite - GameMastery Module D2: Seven Swords of Sin
Granule Construct Swarm; Nightmare Bat - GameMastery Module U1: Gallery of Evil
Painted Creation; Shadowy Lurker - [i]GameMastery Module J1: Entombed with the Pharaohs
Osirion Mummy - GameMastery Module E1: Carnival of Tears
Dark Ice Fey; Frosty Chiseler - GameMastery Module J2: Guardians of Dragonfall
Arcanaton; Tongue of Rebuke;Wings of Protection - GameMastery Module U2: Hangman's Noose
Croaker; Gutdragging Lurcher - GameMastery Module W2: River into Darkness
Fell Flotsam; Mosquito Swarm - GameMastery Module D3: The Demon Within
Chatterer Swarm; Son of Perdition - Pathfinder Module D1.5: Revenge of the Kobold King
Azlanti Chariot Beetle - Pathfinder Module W3: Flight of the Red Raven
Hoary Muntjac; Snowdrifter - Pathfinder Module LB1: Tower of the Last Baron
Crepitus - Pathfinder Module LB2: Treasure of Chimera Cove
Sea-Sworn - Pathfinder Module J4: The Pact Stone Pyramid
Ghalshoaton - Pathfinder Module S1: Clash of the Kingslayers
Guiltgorger Giant - Pathfinder Module E2: Blood of Dragonscar
Bloodless Vessel; Necropyre
Brinebeast |
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Here are all the Pathfinder Monsters Paizo published under the 3.5 rules that have yet to make it into a PRPG product. This excludes the two monsters that have a one time print only agreement, and He Who Walks in Blood, because as a God and not a Demi-God his 3.5 stats are no longer recognized (at least that's my understanding).
Azi, Sruvara – Dragon CR 15
Azi, Gandareva – Dragon CR 16
Azi, Zahhak – Dragon CR 19
Dhabba – Animal CR 1
Sand Eel – Animal CR 5
Cutlass Spider – Construct CR 6
Granule Construct Swarm – Construct (swarm) CR 6
Guardian, Wings of Protection – Construct CR 8
Guardian, Tongue of Rebuke – Construct CR 9
Akaruzug – Construct CR 14
Roseblood Sprite – Fey CR 3
Frosty Chiseler – Fey CR 4
Miengu – Fey CR 11
Cinder Wolf – Magical Beast CR 2
Darklands Sentinel – Magical Beast CR 2
Hoary Muntjac – Magical Beast CR 3
Ercinee – Magical Beast CR 4
Buraq – Magical Beast CR 5
Sandwalker – Magical Beast CR 11
Red Reaver – Magical Beast CR 13
Hadhayosh – Magical Beast CR 18
Xotani, The Fire Bleeder – Magical Beast CR 20
Black Echelon Operative – Undead CR 1/3
Edimmu – Undead CR 3
Gutdragging Lurcher – Undead CR 3
Smoke Haunt – Undead CR 4
Blast Shadow – Undead CR 5
Croaker – Undead CR 5
Forge Spurned – Undead CR 5
Fell Flotsam – Undead CR 6
Rajput Ambari – Undead CR 7
Bonestorm – Undead (swarm) CR 8
Shadowy Lurker – Undead CR 8
Bloodless Vessel – Undead CR 12
Chained Spirit – Undead CR 14
Danse Macabre – Undead CR 14
Nightmare Bats – Outsider CR 3
Crepitus – Outsider CR 5
Asakku – Outsider CR 7
Chatterer Swarm – Outsider CR 8
Arcanaton – N Outsider CR 9
Ghalshoatan – Outsider CR 9
Torthune – Outsider CR 12
Black Jinni – Outsider CR 12
Child (Son) of Perdition – Outsider CR 13
Snowdrifter – Aberration CR 4
Emkrah – Aberration CR 9
Argorth – Aberration CR 11
Get of Iblis – Aberration CR 13
Havero – Aberration CR 24
Spider, Dream – Vermin CR 1/2
Azlanti Chariot Beetle – Vermin CR 5
Spider, Crag – Vermin CR 8
Wooden Protector – Plant CR 3
Gnoll, Unchosen – Humanoid (Gnoll) CR 4
Guiltgorger Giant – Humanoid (Giant) CR 8
Black Blooded (Template)
Necropyre (Template)
Painted Creation (Template)
Sea-Sworn (Template)
Wyrmskull (Template)
Kalindlara Contributor |
Here are all the Pathfinder Monsters Paizo published under the 3.5 rules that have yet to make it into a PRPG product. This excludes the two monsters that have a one time print only agreement, and He Who Walks in Blood, because as a God and not a Demi-God his 3.5 stats are no longer recognized (at least that's my understanding).
Azi, Sruvara – Dragon CR 15
Azi, Gandareva – Dragon CR 16
Azi, Zahhak – Dragon CR 19Dhabba – Animal CR 1
Sand Eel – Animal CR 5Cutlass Spider[b] – Construct CR 6
Granule Construct Swarm – Construct (swarm) CR 6
Guardian, Wings of Protection – Construct CR 8
Guardian, Tongue of Rebuke – Construct CR 9
[b]Akaruzug – Construct CR 14Roseblood Sprite – Fey CR 3
Frosty Chiseler – Fey CR 4
Miengu – Fey CR 11Cinder Wolf – Magical Beast CR 2
Darklands Sentinel – Magical Beast CR 2
Hoary Muntjac – Magical Beast CR 3
Ercinee – Magical Beast CR 4
Buraq – Magical Beast CR 5
Sandwalker – Magical Beast CR 11
Red Reaver – Magical Beast CR 13
Hadhayosh – Magical Beast CR 18
Xotani, The Fire Bleeder – Magical Beast CR 20Black Echelon Operative – Undead CR 1/3
Edimmu – Undead CR 3
Gutdragging Lurcher – Undead CR 3
Smoke Haunt – Undead CR 4
Blast Shadow – Undead CR 5
Croaker – Undead CR 5
Forge Spurned – Undead CR 5
Fell Flotsam – Undead CR 6
Rajput Ambari – Undead CR 7
Bonestorm – Undead (swarm) CR 8
Shadowy Lurker – Undead CR 8
Bloodless Vessel – Undead CR 12
Chained Spirit – Undead CR 14
Danse Macabre – Undead CR 14Nightmare Bats – Outsider CR 3
Crepitus – Outsider CR 5
Asakku – Outsider CR 7
Chatterer Swarm – Outsider CR 8
Arcanaton – N Outsider CR 9
Ghalshoatan – Outsider CR 9
Torthune – Outsider CR 12
Black Jinni – Outsider CR 12
Child (Son) of Perdition – Outsider CR 13Snowdrifter – Aberration CR 4
Emkrah – Aberration CR 9
Argorth – Aberration CR 11
Get of Iblis – Aberration CR 13
Havero – Aberration CR 24Spider, Dream – Vermin CR 1/2
Azlanti Chariot Beetle – Vermin CR 5
Spider, Crag – Vermin CR 8Wooden Protector – Plant CR 3
Gnoll, Unchosen – Humanoid (Gnoll) CR 4
Guiltgorger Giant – Humanoid (Giant) CR 8Black Blooded (Template)
Necropyre (Template)
Painted Creation (Template)
Sea-Sworn (Template)
Wyrmskull (Template)
I would love seeing just about all of these back. I bolded some for emphasis, though. ^_^
Zaister |
Did they reprint the rajput ambari when I wasn't looking?
Hm, I don't think so, that should certainly be on the list.
Here's my comprehensive list of 35e period monsters from Pathfinder and GameMastery products:
Kalindlara Contributor |
Lord Gadigan |
Thank you to Zaister and Brinebeast for the lists!
What about the Deep Crow, didn't that have some kind of copyright issue as well?
Yes, it belongs to the Penny Arcade guys and likely isn't getting a reprint.
I think some of the Cthulhu creatures from Carrion Crown had a similar issue, but they're already PF-statted.
Alex Smith 908 |
Thank you to Zaister and Brinebeast for the lists!
Dragon78 wrote:What about the Deep Crow, didn't that have some kind of copyright issue as well?Yes, it belongs to the Penny Arcade guys and likely isn't getting a reprint.
I think some of the Cthulhu creatures from Carrion Crown had a similar issue, but they're already PF-statted.
Specifically the dark young.
Kalindlara Contributor |
Lord Gadigan wrote:Specifically the dark young.Thank you to Zaister and Brinebeast for the lists!
Dragon78 wrote:What about the Deep Crow, didn't that have some kind of copyright issue as well?Yes, it belongs to the Penny Arcade guys and likely isn't getting a reprint.
I think some of the Cthulhu creatures from Carrion Crown had a similar issue, but they're already PF-statted.
The gnoph-keh and dimensional shambler are also Chaosium-owned, I believe. ^_^
JJ wanted the shamblers in Wrath of the Righteous, but couldn't get the rights in time.
Kalindlara Contributor |
I really wish the Coeurl wasn't copyrighted. I love that creature, it would have made an awesome replacement for the Displacer Beast. It would been a great creature to have on one of the other planets such as Castrovel, Verces, a few of the moons, etc.
The stats should still be 95% usable, if you can get access to them.
And I'm sure that the staff would be happy to unofficially suggest where to place them in the PF universe if you asked. ^_^
Odraude |
I'm actually reminded of a concept both from Eclipse Phase and theoretical biochemistries. Basically, a lifeform confined to stars that is made out of plasma. It has to be huge, but I could see it using magnetism and/or gravity to manipulate things.
I actually have a creature in my setting born from dwarf stars that is made from radiation and gravity. Gravity and magnetism forms its "body" and allows it to manipulate things and radiation allows it to move and powers it. Was a fun encounter for my group.
Kthulhu |
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I don't really see why anyone who isn't a publisher or a publishing author needs a replacement for displaced beasts, mind flayers, beholders, etc. The WotC Legal Squad isn't gonna bust your door down and demand you stop using their IP in your home game. And given that those things are mostly monsters that only really appear long enough to get beaten to a bloody pulp with sharp pointy bits of metal, you can just use the 3.5 stats as-is. You don't gain enough from a full conversion to make it worth the effort.
An illithid empire would make a nice power behind the Dominion in Black
Kalindlara Contributor |
Myth Lord |
hhhmm...I mean the whole idea behind magnetism is pretty tied into science?
Yes, that's why I mentioned the Metalmaster from D&D, the only creature from D&D not in the Copyright section that I want in Pathfinder.
And magnetism isn't something from science, its magical and natural, see the rock Magnetite.
I also dislike Professor X/Jean Grey monsters, I don't care that a monster can use telepathy, gravity, elemental control + MAGNETISM, I want a single creature to FOCUS on magnetism, and magnetism ONLY, not like that pink ball ooze from Bestiary 3 that controlls multiple stuff + magnetism.
D&D has Gravorg and Metalmaster, those are perfect examples of monsters that focus on a single power and which aren't Sciencefiction monsters.
I love the magnetism monster to be a magical beast with limited intelligence, it uses its magnetic powers to hunt and defend itself, I wouldn't mind something like the Aboleth or more alien-looking monsters, s long as they don't wear laptops, computers, modern or scienceficion armor or antyhing that would look silly next to other monsters from medieval fantasy.
And because you guys love Sciencefiction so much, doesn't need to mean suddenly everything has to link in with it.
Luthorne |
I don't really see why anyone who isn't a publisher or a publishing author needs a replacement for displaced beasts, mind flayers, beholders, etc. The WotC Legal Squad isn't gonna bust your door down and demand you stop using their IP in your home game. And given that those things are mostly monsters that only really appear long enough to get beaten to a bloody pulp with sharp pointy bits of metal, you can just use the 3.5 stats as-is. You don't gain enough from a full conversion to make it worth the effort.
An illithid empire would make a nice power behind the Dominion in Black
Yeah, but someone did it anyways, so you don't even have to expend extra effort on your part. I find The Creature Chronicle pretty handy there.
Zaister |
Yeah, but someone did it anyways, so you don't even have to expend extra effort on your part. I find The Creature Chronicle pretty handy there.
Well, that's definitely an OGL violation, and Wizard would probably have them take it down if they noticed it, and rightly so.
Dragon78 |
There is still hope for Arcadia(and other places) though I think they will use every location in the Inner Sea before we get to those other places;)
I would be down for the Big Blue Ox and other more modern day made up creatures along old school myth, sci-fi, movies, TV, comics, classic literature, nature based, etc.