Our current campaign is the first time in years that I am not playing as human. It's hard not to when humans have the best options.
Our current campaign is the first time in years that I am not playing as human. It's hard not to when humans have the best options.
Welcome to human-ocentric Golarion! If you would like to enjoy your stay, you may want to accept the fact that Golarion is human-ocentric. It does not look like that will change any time soon.
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I have already accepted it, it doesn't mean I have to like it;)
My group tends to have a single "token filthy human" in every campaign. Though usually a different person each time.
Though having more details on the human ethnicities will be quite welcome.
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Our current campaign is the first time in years that I am not playing as human. It's hard not to when humans have the best options.
This is why my campaigns have houserules to keep people from feeling forced to play a human. It just feels odd that in a world full of fantastical creatures humans are the best (or close to the best) at everything.
I know that Golarion is human centric, but as several other people have said: that doesn't mean I have to like it ;)
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Our current campaign is the first time in years that I am not playing as human. It's hard not to when humans have the best options.This is why my campaigns have houserules to keep people from feeling forced to play a human. It just feels odd that in a world full of fantastical creatures humans are the best (or close to the best) at everything.
Heh. It might be a bigger stretch that everything else that happens to be sharing a planet with humans is still alive.
Humans are pretty much every bit as violent, vicious and xenophobic as any of the "monster" races without any of their hardwired drawbacks. =P
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In fact many monsters are not even xenophobic at all;)
Our current campaign is the first time in years that I am not playing as human. It's hard not to when humans have the best options.
I have already accepted it, it doesn't mean I have to like it;)
I don't think having a extremely "versatile" race equals "best options" to be honest. Rather I think it's a matter of personal taste in character creation.
In fact many monsters are not even xenophobic at all ;)
Indeed, some monsters can be quite gregarious. Just because a devil thinks all mortals are inferior doesn't mean he won't be found hobnobbing with social elites at a wedding in Cheliax.
Other monsters particularly love cities and social settings. I believe Silver Dragons were once stated to love cities and that their preferred dinning was food cooked and prepared by humanoid races. Not sure how true that is still (gotta find a Pathfinder manual that describes the habits of metallic dragons).
*throws money at the computer screen*
It's not working! Throw more money!
When will this be available for subscribers?Shipping for Subscribers begins on the 8th.
I can hardly wait! Just a few more days. Will there be any previews?
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I can hardly wait! Just a few more days. Will there be any previews?When will this be available for subscribers?Shipping for Subscribers begins on the 8th.
D'oh. Yes. There will be previews!
I can't wait for some previews for this one.
I can't wait for some previews for this one.
Me neither! Want NOW.
Please?
The shipping soon emails have started! Monday can't come soon enough... And I can't believe those words came out of my mouth since Mondays are my worst days at work by far.
That's Labor Day, shipping won't start till Tuesday.
Dat dere link got me to a paizo error message - it couldn't find the page. Maybe this one will work better.
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Dat dere link got me to a paizo error message - it couldn't find the page. Maybe this one will work better.
Seems to, but give it time... sometimes those link issues develop later.
It's happened to me - put up a post, it works fine, it links fine, next day people are asking me why my "fixed" link doesn't work.
Since Monday is a holiday and Paizo is closed, the earliest we can expect our PDFs is Tuesday.
no idea.
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I really wish there was a way I could support my local game store, and get a PDF for PFS convenience, without dropping $75.00. I have no doubt the content will be worth paying full price for once, but twice is really asking a bit much. I understand the standard answer is to subscribe, but that kills the game stores that give us a place to play.
I really wish there was a way I could support my local game store, and get a PDF for PFS convenience, without dropping $75.00. I have no doubt the content will be worth paying full price for once, but twice is really asking a bit much. I understand the standard answer is to subscribe, but that kills the game stores that give us a place to play.
Plus the book will EVENTUALLY be reprinted to correct any errors so it's better to get the PDF now and then wait until the book's 2nd or 3rd reprinting has been announced! Also, I totally get ya about the PDF's and game / comic stores.
The link did not work. :(
The link did not work. :(
Which one?
The link did not work. :(Which one?
The one to the first preview on Paizo's blog.
I don't mind the book being Human-centric, but as someone who has all the 'Blood of' Player Companions I have mixed feelings of overlap. Consolidated books are nice but unless they tackle niches or supporting recently released classes I'm finding that the fact that these can come out only adds to my increasing reluctance to buy Player Companions.
if i preorder this now do i still get the pdf? or do i have to subscribe?
The one to the first preview on Paizo's blog.The link did not work. :(Which one?
The one Luthorne provided didn't work for me either, so I provided another one. Did you try that one?
if i preorder this now do i still get the pdf? or do i have to subscribe?
Free PDF copies are a perk of the subscriptions; just pre-ordering this book will not get you one.
At the same tine, pausing or canceling a subscription isn't hard; posting in the Customer Service forum is usually all that is required.
So does anyone have their hands, claws, tentacles (etc etc) on this book yet? If so, any juicy details and tidbits you care to share?
So does anyone have their hands, claws, tentacles (etc etc) on this book yet? If so, any juicy details and tidbits you care to share?
Not till Tuesday
I have already accepted it, it doesn't mean I have to like it;)
My only real problem with the game frankly is this issue. Humans are such an optimal choice for basically everything due to the free feat that so many players will not even consider playing a non human.
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I'm really surprised by all of this human-dominance I keep hearing about. My groups could use a little more of that.
My Emerald Spire PCs:
Android kineticist
Sylph psychic (formless adept)
Emberkin occultist (sha'ir)
Changeling spiritualist (haunted)
My Council of Thieves PCs:
Vishkanya ninja
Fetchling gunslinger (mysterious stranger)
Half-orc barbarian (invulnerable rager)
Not saying it doesn't happen... but our experience is obviously very different. ^_^
Interestingly, our Reign of Winter group is all-human... but for cultural reasons. (We're all Ulfen.)
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Well, the humanocentric part is one of the important assumptions of the setting from an official point of view. That doesn't mean we gamers can't go nuts with all sorts of exotic races. :)
Would be interesting to count how many of the NPC protagonists in AP´s, modules, scenarios and all the stories are actually not human.
I´m really glad though that the generic "human" becomes a lot more color with this book. Perhaps now not only the mechanical aspects can be a deciding factor there, but also some flavor.
Most people i saw playing a human did that either because it was flat out the best option for their PC "build", or because they felt unsure and not advanced enough in their roleplay to choose another race, not wanting to play a clichee, but then often playing relatively "pale" indistinct humans.
Well it's not like I will be reading the human section of this book first, in fact I will be reading all the non-core races first;)
I'm looking to play Catfolk so looking forward to seeing stuff about them. Between this and the Monster Codex it's a good year for playable race options!
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Would be interesting to count how many of the NPC protagonists in AP´s, modules, scenarios and all the stories are actually not human.
I´m really glad though that the generic "human" becomes a lot more color with this book. Perhaps now not only the mechanical aspects can be a deciding factor there, but also some flavor.
Most people i saw playing a human did that either because it was flat out the best option for their PC "build", or because they felt unsure and not advanced enough in their roleplay to choose another race, not wanting to play a clichee, but then often playing relatively "pale" indistinct humans.
See, I don't get this. I think there is plenty of flavor there for the human ethnicities. All of my ethnicity choices have on some level been driven by flavor. Not saying that I don't look forward to even more flavor. I restarted my Campaign Setting sub for this book. I just don't understand how someone can say they don't have any yet.
See, I don't get this. I think there is plenty of flavor there for the human ethnicities. All of my ethnicity choices have on some level been driven by flavor. Not saying that I don't look forward to even more flavor. I restarted my Campaign Setting sub for this book. I just don't understand how someone can say they don't have any yet.Would be interesting to count how many of the NPC protagonists in AP´s, modules, scenarios and all the stories are actually not human.
I´m really glad though that the generic "human" becomes a lot more color with this book. Perhaps now not only the mechanical aspects can be a deciding factor there, but also some flavor.
Most people i saw playing a human did that either because it was flat out the best option for their PC "build", or because they felt unsure and not advanced enough in their roleplay to choose another race, not wanting to play a clichee, but then often playing relatively "pale" indistinct humans.
Most players don´t buy many campaign setting books as far as i know. Hence there have been some Player Companion books.
I can only tell what i witnessed though and speak for my experience.
So, are they going to start shipping subscriptions today or was it pushed back?
Shipping starts 18th and should wrap up by the 25th I believe.
Nope. According to the relevant shipping information thread in the customer service section, shipping starts today and ends on the 25th. It was originally estimated to end on the 18th, though.
Well that is good to know too bad I will be at work for the next three evenings.