Pathfinder Player Companion: People of the Sands (PFRPG)

That is one gorgeous cover! Definitely poster-worthy.

Really cool! A Hierosphinx!

Bellona wrote:

... (even though I always think of Za'ha'dum when I read it).

THIS!

I always keep hearing someone warning "If you go to Rahadoum, you will die."

Prophesy fulfilled

NEED

and would also buy as a poster

I hope the oracle archetype is related to the idea of "god-kings"

Wow, that cover looks great.

Though, it is a bit funny that the only two people shown on the cover are from Quaidra and Vudra.

Wow new oracle mystery, sorcerer bloodline, and two new prestige classes.

I do like that picture of the Hierosphinx.

I hope the sorcerer bloodline is sphinx related.

That is one gorgeous cover! Definitely poster-worthy.

I couldn't agree more!

The product blurb lists an Oracle archetype, not an Oracle mystery. Which disappoints me a bit - I was hoping for a Summer mystery to balance the Winter mystery in People of the North.

I wouldn't mind seeing something like 3.5's "priest of____" feats, which allowed a few extra spells to be added to their Cleric list based on climate needs, rather than more Domains/SubDomains, or Domains spells slots.

Yeah, your right, it does say oracle archetype, I do not know why I thought it said mystery.

Pre-ordered.
Now I'm just hoping that in all of the awesomeness that this book contains, I hope that it has an update to the Living Monolith Prestige class.
I'd be happy if it's here ... or in Legacy of Pharaohs, or even in the new "Mummy's Mask" adventure path. I just hope that it's *somewhere*!

I'm hoping they throw in lesser "psudeo-egyption" deities in this book (I think they mentioned it for the Campaign setting).

Throwing this in for a future Osirioni character (oracle or cleric); would like other deities instead of just Pharasma/Abadar/Nethys.

The product blurb lists an Oracle archetype, not an Oracle mystery. Which disappoints me a bit - I was hoping for a Summer mystery to balance the Winter mystery in People of the North.

I'd hope the archetype has to do with the elemental clans that have gotten some mention before. But I'd rather see a new oracle curse than an archetype or mystery.

I'd hope the archetype has to do with the elemental clans that have gotten some mention before. But I'd rather see a new oracle curse than an archetype or mystery.

Depends on how they try to spin the archetype. Black Blood archetype was the only way to get that curse. Dual-Cursed archetype was the only way to get two curses.

I am wondering how they are going to try and spin it this time for a new cavalier order considering all the current orders and their specific functions.

Order of the Blue Rose = Peace Makers.
Order of the Cockatrice = Socially "Corrupt" Knights.
Order of the Dragon = All for One, One for All.
Order of the Land = Revolutionaries.
Order of the Lion = Knights who serve Kings/Queens/Sovereigns.
Order of the Paw = Halfling Militia.
Order of the Penitent = Atoned Knights or Vigilantes.
Order of the Seal = Keepers of Secrets or Silent Knight.
Order of the Staff = Protectors of Magic.
Order of the Star = Holy Knight.
Order of the Shield = Champion of the Meek and Downtrodden.
Order of the Sword = The Chivalrous and Honorable.
Order of the Warrior = To Protect ones Land, Ruler, Family, and Comrades.
Order of the Tome = Knowledge Guardians and Knowledge Eradicators.
Ronin/Knight-Errant = Masterless or Lordless.

I love the cover!!

logic_poet wrote:

I'd hope the archetype has to do with the elemental clans that have gotten some mention before. But I'd rather see a new oracle curse than an archetype or mystery.

Depends on how they try to spin the archetype. Black Blood archetype was the only way to get that curse. Dual-Cursed archetype was the only way to get two curses.

I am wondering how they are going to try and spin it this time for a new cavalier order considering all the current orders and their specific functions.

Order of the Blue Rose = Peace Makers.
Order of the Cockatrice = Socially "Corrupt" Knights.
Order of the Dragon = All for One, One for All.
Order of the Land = Revolutionaries.
Order of the Lion = Knights who serve Kings/Queens/Sovereigns.
Order of the Paw = Halfling Militia.
Order of the Penitent = Atoned Knights or Vigilantes.
Order of the Seal = Keepers of Secrets or Silent Knight.
Order of the Staff = Protectors of Magic.
Order of the Star = Holy Knight.
Order of the Shield = Champion of the Meek and Downtrodden.
Order of the Sword = The Chivalrous and Honorable.
Order of the Warrior = To Protect ones Land, Ruler, Family, and Comrades.
Order of the Tome = Knowledge Guardians and Knowledge Eradicators.
Ronin/Knight-Errant = Masterless or Lordless.

Probably "Order of the Hump" Specializing in riding camels and enduring desert treks and battles.

Will we see desert elves? Ouat dwarves? I'm really curious about non-human options in this book.

I'm really hoping the Ouat dwarves finally get some love here. :)

I'm hoping the oracle arch or the sorcerer bloodline has something tied to the divine bloodline of the pharaohs. I would love to have an oracle or sorc that has mechanics directly tied to that pharaoh/son of Ra idea.

I would also really like the idea of a sphinx bloodline.

As for the cavalier order I'm thinking we will either get something associated with the Risen Guard or maybe something cool built around desert nomads or other traveling cultures.

Will be interesting to see what the bloodline for Sorcerer will be, we already got Imperial and Destined. If its not about being a descendant of sphinx or pharaohs or mummies, I would bet that the archetype is Sandborn.

I guess like the others the cavalier order may pretain to the Risen Guard or the Desert Knight sort.

As for Oracle, a new archetype possibly could mean a new curse which is always welcome. Perhaps an age curse that as you level up makes you more powerful the older you get as you eventually have no penalties to your age, however you start at middle age.

I would love a sphinx themed bloodline myself.

I would love a sphinx themed bloodline myself.

That does sound cool. The ability to confound a foe with a riddle that they have to solve before they can take actions, or at least, take actions without some sort of distraction penalty, could be funky. Instead of a traditional saving throw, it would require either an Int check, or one specific knowledge check (chosen by the caster, as he fashions the riddle to be about history or nature or whatever). A lower power version would just give you penalties similar to being shaken, as the riddle divides your attention until solved. A slightly higher power version would fascinate the confounded individual instead.

Dragon78 wrote:

I would love a sphinx themed bloodline myself.

That does sound cool. The ability to confound a foe with a riddle that they have to solve before they can take actions, or at least, take actions without some sort of distraction penalty, could be funky. Instead of a traditional saving throw, it would require either an Int check, or one specific knowledge check (chosen by the caster, as he fashions the riddle to be about history or nature or whatever). A lower power version would just give you penalties similar to being shaken, as the riddle divides your attention until solved. A slightly higher power version would fascinate the confounded individual instead.

Sphinx-Blooded: "Alright alright I know your about to hit me with those very nice and beautiful flails you have, but could you grant me one last request before my untimely demise by someone as magnificent as you?"

*The Ettin sits down on a nearby rock and ponders deeply and argues with himself to choose an answer between the two, dragon or egg. The Sphinx-Blooded sneaks off relatively unscanthed by the encounter.*

Since some of the subscribers have already got their PDFs, does anyone know what the new bloodline and oracle archetype are?

Given that this isn't due until January, I would be quite surprised. Magical Marketplace is the Player's Companion that is due to come out this month.

Filby Pott wrote:

Will we see desert elves? Ouat dwarves? I'm really curious about non-human options in this book.

I'm really hoping the Ouat dwarves finally get some love here. :)

I might be wrong, but I vaguely remember someone at Paizo said they're trying to disregard them... kinda like paladins of Asmodeus, and time elementals, and fey not having souls.

I hope time elementals are still cannon.

I'm putting my money on desert/sand-bloodline.

Given that this isn't due until January, I would be quite surprised. Magical Marketplace is the Player's Companion that is due to come out this month.

Opps my bad, forgot to look at the date. but the question if still up for when they do get it.

Irnk, Dead-Eye's Prodigal wrote:

Given that this isn't due until January, I would be quite surprised. Magical Marketplace is the Player's Companion that is due to come out this month.

Opps my bad, forgot to look at the date. but the question if still up for when they do get it.

I believe they get early access to it at least one-two weeks in advance.

Dragon78 wrote:

I would love a sphinx themed bloodline myself.

That does sound cool. The ability to confound a foe with a riddle that they have to solve before they can take actions, or at least, take actions without some sort of distraction penalty, could be funky.

Or how about the ability to turn a spell cast into a riddle spell? Maybe it adds a [riddle] descriptor to a spell cast (possibly only enchantment spells?) which increases the saving throw DC of that spell?

Mikaze wrote:

Filby Pott wrote:

Will we see desert elves? Ouat dwarves? I'm really curious about non-human options in this book.

I'm really hoping the Ouat dwarves finally get some love here. :)

I might be wrong, but I vaguely remember someone at Paizo said they're trying to disregard them... kinda like paladins of Asmodeus, and time elementals, and fey not having souls.

I really hope that's not the case. The Ouat dwarves were the most interesting thing to be done with dwarves yet in Golarion, culturally speaking.

I know some folks didn't like the apparent pun in "Ouat Caste", but when that's easily solved by just switching "caste" out for something else, it seems a waste to just throw the whole concept out.

Hoping they do show up, because Egyptian-stylized hairless dwarves are cool. And it finally breaks up the monoculture.(srsly, elves have a number of varied cultures to pull from, why should dwarves be stuck with the same old one?)

(goes for any other race, really)

I am looking forward to the dwarves and hopefully roles for all the sands people.

Will this contain the pale red-headed desert goblins with big feet?

Will this contain the pale red-headed desert goblins with big feet?

Doubt we will be seeing the sand goblins from the 3.5ed Sandstorm book.

I would rather have a prestige class that let me be sandworm dragoon that rides a large sandworm to ride into combat.

I am looking forward to this with happy expectations, I just don't want to see a rerelease of nearly the same content that was slightly tweaked is all.

Who are the authors for this one? Seems weird that the Bastards of Golarion already has theirs announced, but not this one due out in 19 days.

I really hope that's not the case. The Ouat dwarves were the most interesting thing to be done with dwarves yet in Golarion, culturally speaking.

I know some folks didn't like the apparent pun in "Ouat Caste", but when that's easily solved by just switching "caste" out for something else, it seems a waste to just throw the whole concept out.

Hoping they do show up, because Egyptian-stylized hairless dwarves are cool.

I missed the Ouat caste pun. um, Hey Ya.

Agreed, that the concept is fresh and interesting. I personally hope to see more.

Should be very soon for the preorderers.

Who are the authors for this one? Seems weird that the Bastards of Golarion already has theirs announced, but not this one due out in 19 days.

I was one of the contributing authors. I don't recall offhand who the others were.

Cheapy wrote:

Who are the authors for this one? Seems weird that the Bastards of Golarion already has theirs announced, but not this one due out in 19 days.

I was one of the contributing authors. I don't recall offhand who the others were.

And I'm another one.

Regarding the Ouat dwarves, I mentioned them in the section on the Pahmet. As far as I'm aware they haven't been disregarded altogether - it was the 'Ouat Caste' pun-thing that is being disregarded. Having said that, I don't know yet how my original text fared through the development process until I see the finished product myself.

do subscriber's have their PDFs yet?

The new sorcerer bloodline is Div Bloodline.

There is a remake of the 3.5 PrC Living Monolith and there is a new one - Thuvian Alchemist.

Any information available on the oracle archetype and the cavalier order?

Thuvian Alechemist is a PrC, not Archetype?

Info on Druids and Clerics would be cool... as would be an all-encompassing encyclopedic run down ;-)

And what do we learn about Garundi as a people, independent of class options, etc?

Yes what is the oracle archetype and cavalier order?

What is the Div bloodline like? What is its final bloodline power?

There is a remake of the 3.5 PrC Living Monolith

Hope it's a bit more.....substantial than the original ?

Thuvian Alechemist is a PrC, not Archetype?

Info on Druids and Clerics would be cool... as would be an all-encompassing encyclopedic run down ;-)

Thuvian Alchemist is a PrC.

I'm at work so there will be no all-encompassing run down until later.

Yes what is the oracle archetype and cavalier order?

The oracle archetype is Elementalist and you get to play around with switching the elemental source of your spells. 20th level ability also means that you bypass elemental resistance in your targets and do half-damage to immune creatures on critical hits.

Order of the First Law - Rahadoum related for the cavaliar.

What is the Div bloodline like? What is its final bloodline power?

Ahriman’s Favor (Su): At 20th level, you are filled with Ahriman’s wickedness. You gain immunity to fire and poison. You also gain acid resistance 10 and electricity resistance 10, and the ability to see perfectly in darkness of any kind to a range of 60 feet.

And what do we learn about Garundi as a people, independent of class options, etc?

Two page spread with ~one page of background information, names, Garundi sayings. Then traits on the other page.

I do really like the artwork they used for the garundi spread though.