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Yeah, the cover picture is pretty, but it's got me curious about the details. Besides wondering about the pink dragons, I'm also trying to figure out what spell Ezren's casting, and why he has his wayfinder out and open while doing so. There's a time and a place to be checking the needle on the wayfinder, and the middle of battle isn't it.
He's casting any spell with the fire descriptor. He has his wayfinder out so he can justify being on the cover of the Pathfinder Society Primer.
He's casting any spell with the fire descriptor. He has his wayfinder out so he can justify being on the cover of the Pathfinder Society Primer.Yeah, the cover picture is pretty, but it's got me curious about the details. Besides wondering about the pink dragons, I'm also trying to figure out what spell Ezren's casting, and why he has his wayfinder out and open while doing so. There's a time and a place to be checking the needle on the wayfinder, and the middle of battle isn't it.
Ezren is actually a Pathfinder in the comic (or at least trying to be), so that's good enough for me. :)
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Options: He was checking the wayfinder and the wyvern's stealth check beat his perception? Or maybe he saw it and hates being interrupted when he's lost?
Will the ioun stones from Seekers of Secrets be covered again, with all the resonance abilities, or only new ones?
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Like someone else posting months ago, I'm hoping they have rules for using the Pathfinder hand-sign. That would add some really nice flavor to the table if several of the players could communicate silently using gestures they've learned in their training. If they do, hopefully it will be something you have to invest in, at least a little (perhaps an add-on use for the Linguistics skill).
Will the ioun stones from Seekers of Secrets be covered again, with all the resonance abilities, or only new ones?
This book features all-new ioun stones that also play off the rules presented in Seekers of Secrets.
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Will the ioun stones from Seekers of Secrets be covered again, with all the resonance abilities, or only new ones?This book features all-new ioun stones that also play off the rules presented in Seekers of Secrets.
Good. I like the ioun stones and hope that we eventually get a table of shapes, sort of like the old gem tables. I'd been intending to stat up the Hook-Up Action feats other than Alertness.
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I think it's long past time that there were ioun stones based on the platonic solids. We may not be able to use modrons anymore, but there's design space for ioun stones in the shape of tetrahedrons, dodecahedrons, octahedrons and icosahedrons! Oh, and cubes!
Ezren looks like he's timing himself to see how fast he can wrassle that giant pink quasi-Ouroboran rainbow serpent thing.
"Ha! Twelve seconds! One-handed! A new personal best. Beat that Valeros!"
Maybe his wayfinder's resonant ability is to boost fire spells when used as a focus?
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So you think every other year is too often for a product to support Paizo's largest marketing campaign? Many many people would say its not often enough.
As long as it actually offers something new, sure no problem. The thing is, so far we have 2-3 books that rehash the same information over and over. Those books have offered very little new for each one.
The last one came out and I touted it at a big Pathfinder convention here. Then I looked through it and regretted my support. Most of the book was already available in other forms. It was a near waste of money.
I hope there is SOMETHING new and worth the money this time. But baed on past experience I doubt it. Please Paizo, prove me wrong.
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So you think every other year is too often for a product to support Paizo's largest marketing campaign? Many many people would say its not often enough.As long as it actually offers something new, sure no problem. The thing is, so far we have 2-3 books that rehash the same information over and over. Those books have offered very little new for each one.
The last one came out and I touted it at a big Pathfinder convention here. Then I looked through it and regretted my support. Most of the book was already available in other forms. It was a near waste of money.
I hope there is SOMETHING new and worth the money this time. But baed on past experience I doubt it. Please Paizo, prove me wrong.
What books are you talking about that don't have new material?
Seeker of Secrets has all those ioun stones and their affects when they're in a Wayfinder. The Pathfinder Society Field Guide has the Lore Warden archetype for fighters, and lots of vanities and faction rewards to spend prestige on. And that's just the stuff I've actually used, which has made me glad I bought those books, without having taken the time to read either book in its entirety yet (too busy reading PFS scenarios to GM to read any of the other books).
What I'd most like to see from this book: Pathfinder Society traits for the non-core classes. Longarm of the Society, Hexer of the Society, Tactician of the Society, Spellsword of the Society...
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What books are you talking about that don't have new material?So you think every other year is too often for a product to support Paizo's largest marketing campaign? Many many people would say its not often enough.As long as it actually offers something new, sure no problem. The thing is, so far we have 2-3 books that rehash the same information over and over. Those books have offered very little new for each one.
The last one came out and I touted it at a big Pathfinder convention here. Then I looked through it and regretted my support. Most of the book was already available in other forms. It was a near waste of money.
I hope there is SOMETHING new and worth the money this time. But baed on past experience I doubt it. Please Paizo, prove me wrong.
Would he be speaking of "Humans Of Golarion"?
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If the resources in in the PFS core assumption change, it would be nice if Paizo provided an "upgrade" price (discount) to those who already purchased the core materials. But that would probably be impossible to track unless the items were bought at Paizo's online store - e.g. PFS Core "maintenance" subscription.
It sounds like this book is going to combine some of the better material from Seekers and the Field Guide and probably some new things as well. I certainly hope so. I am still building my PFS library and would like to have the good stuff all together versus buying separate older books.
It seems that the value of the books really varies depending upon whether you are new to PFS or a veteran who has already purchased older material. The campaign absolutely needs a resource like this and needs to keep if fresh, and the new material is always worth something - I would not expect it all to be rolled into the PFS Guide to Organized Play for free. But requiring folks to pay full price when much of the material exists in something players and GMs already paid for is not likely to be met with a high level of satisfaction.
Still, folks should keep in mind that Paizo's done a good job of making sure we get continued use out of our CRBs. I bought a 3rd printing version, and to update that to 6th printing was a free (and small) errata download. The same goes for Bestiary updates (but not new Bestiaries with new types of monsters). The annual "dues" to maintain CA materials for PFS (if the "PFS Primer" or equivalent is updated every year or two) really don't amount to much, compared to the price you pay for scenarios, modules, APs, other PFS setting material, accessories and additional resources. If you buy this new resource, please write a review at that point and let others know what you think about the price/value ratio. I don't think the inclusion of older material is a problem as long as the price takes that into account.
Hmmm, I had been hoping this book would mention the retraining rules from Ultimate Campaign so they would be PFS legal, but the description doesn't mention them. Oh well.
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Merisiel: HELLO I AM AN INCONSPICUOUS WAITRESS! HERE IS YOUR DISTRACTION!
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If she's in a waitress or maid uniform, I have to see!
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Hmmm, I had been hoping this book would mention the retraining rules from Ultimate Campaign so they would be PFS legal, but the description doesn't mention them. Oh well.
Actually, it seems it does.
you an invitation from a prestigious school of meditation,
athletics, or combat arts. Regularly training with the
monastery’s instructors builds endurance and patience,
granting you the discipline to train faster and more
efficiently. When using the retraining rules presented in
Pathfinder RPG Ultimate Campaign to retrain any character
ability that would take 5 or more days to complete, you reduce
the number of days needed per retraining action by 1.
But personally, I find this more interesting.
the go-ahead to found your own lodge outside of Absalom.
While in the same nation as your lodge, you may requisition
one or more lower-ranked Pathfinders to assist you for a
short time. At the beginning of an adventure, you gain
10 temporary Prestige Points you can spend only on
purchasing follower vanities. At the end of the adventure,
the followers return to their normal duties, and any unspent
temporary Prestige Points are lost. If your character holds
the title of venture-captain, this vanity costs only 25 PP.
Anyone sure how a character obtains the rank of Venture-Captain?
Having now read this, I am mildly disappointed that it has virtually no utility outside of the Pathfinder Society. :(
Having now read this, I am mildly disappointed that it has virtually no utility outside of the Pathfinder Society. :(
Are you insane?! There is a feat that allows Spontaneous Casters the ability to prepare spells they don't know. There is another that allows Prepared casters to select up to three spells of different levels to be switched out for three different spells of matching levels. Depending on exactly how Greater Casting is supposed to work, (Pathfinder Field Agent, pg. 18), this may be the PrC that makes PrC's arguably 'better' than Core Casting Classes again, at least for Wizards.
Yes, technically everything in here is 'only available to members of the Pathfinder Society' in other words, 'subject to GM approval'.
Actually, on the note I was originally posting to inquire about.
Greater Casting (Pathfinder Field Agent, pg. 18): This is one of the options for Pathfinder Training for the Pathfinder Field Agent PrC. You get Pathfinder Training at first, third, sixth & ninth levels. Normally you cannot take a particular option more than once, it then goes on to say that certain options may be selected multiple times but doesn't seem to mention which ones. The wording on Greater Casting combined with the wording on Pathfinder Training leads me to two possible interpretations. Either once you take Greater Casting you consider your levels in Pathfinder Field Agent to also be caster levels for the purposes of Spells per Day/Levels/Known; or each time you take Greater Casting, you consider that level to be an additional 'Caster Level'.
The one seems a bit overpowered, particularly for the aforementioned Wizard, considering everything else you are getting out of the PrC. The second seems more balanced, but I could be overconservative. Which is why I am curious.
Having now read this, I am mildly disappointed that it has virtually no utility outside of the Pathfinder Society. :(Are you insane?! There is a feat that allows Spontaneous Casters the ability to prepare spells they don't know. There is another that allows Prepared casters to select up to three spells of different levels to be switched out for three different spells of matching levels. Depending on exactly how Greater Casting is supposed to work, (Pathfinder Field Agent, pg. 18), this may be the PrC that makes PrC's arguably 'better' than Core Casting Classes again, at least for Wizards.
Yes, technically everything in here is 'only available to members of the Pathfinder Society' in other words, 'subject to GM approval'.
You just established that I am not insane. As you pointed out: "only available to members of the Pathfinder Society."
Also, making a Prestige Class that is better then one of the core classes may actually be a bad idea. It certainly goes against one of the design philosophies of the Pathfinder Role Playing Game.
Greater Casting (Pathfinder Field Agent, pg. 18): This is one of the options for Pathfinder Training for the Pathfinder Field Agent PrC. You get Pathfinder Training at first, third, sixth & ninth levels. Normally you cannot take a particular option more than once, it then goes on to say that certain options may be selected multiple times but doesn't seem to mention which ones. The wording on Greater Casting combined with the wording on Pathfinder Training leads me to two possible interpretations. Either once you take Greater Casting you consider your levels in Pathfinder Field Agent to also be caster levels for the purposes of Spells per Day/Levels/Known; or each[/b] time you take [i]Greater Casting, you consider that level to be an additional 'Caster Level'.
The one seems a bit overpowered, particularly for the aforementioned Wizard, considering everything else you are getting out of the PrC. The second seems more balanced, but I could be overconservative. Which is why I am curious.
I believe your second interpretation is correct. This means that normal progression for a Wizard or Witch would still be vastly better.
Greater Casting (Pathfinder Field Agent, pg. 18): This is one of the options for Pathfinder Training for the Pathfinder Field Agent PrC. You get Pathfinder Training at first, third, sixth & ninth levels. Normally you cannot take a particular option more than once, it then goes on to say that certain options may be selected multiple times but doesn't seem to mention which ones. The wording on Greater Casting combined with the wording on Pathfinder Training leads me to two possible interpretations. Either once you take Greater Casting you consider your levels in Pathfinder Field Agent to also be caster levels for the purposes of Spells per Day/Levels/Known; or each time you take Greater Casting, you consider that level to be an additional 'Caster Level'.
The one seems a bit overpowered, particularly for the aforementioned Wizard, considering everything else you are getting out of the PrC. The second seems more balanced, but I could be overconservative. Which is why I am curious.
The second interpretation is correct.
Oh good. Otherwise it would be time for me to roll up a Wizard for PFS...
I'm still hoping I can talk the GM for a non-Golarion Pathfinder game I'm in to allow Planned Spontaneity, that would be fun.
edit: Since I've got you here, sort-of, the feat Versatile Spontaneity (pg. 9), mentions being able to prepare a spell in your list from either scrolls or spellbooks. Does that mean, for instance, that a Sorcerer could carry a spellbook with them to prepare a spell from that? Or does that mean the Sorcerer would have to convince a Wizard or Magus to let them read from their (i.e. the Wizard or Magus') spellbook?
edit: Since I've got you here, sort-of, the feat Versatile Spontaneity (pg. 9), mentions being able to prepare a spell in your list from either scrolls or spellbooks. Does that mean, for instance, that a Sorcerer could carry a spellbook with them to prepare a spell from that? Or does that mean the Sorcerer would have to convince a Wizard or Magus to let them read from their (i.e. the Wizard or Magus') spellbook?
Correct, if a sorcerer stumbled upon a spellbook, she could use this feat to prepare a spell from that, assuming she meets the prerequisites.
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Our warehouse had some delays (internal and external) and in order to make sure all our distributors (and by extension, local game stores) have a level playing field, we pushed back the release date to 7/31.
Since we have already begun shipping subscriptions, this will not affect subscribers. However, subscription shipping is going to be extended into next week.
thanks
sara marie
The PDFs are free as long as you subscribe to the line in question - otherwise you have to pay for them separately - that includes the hardbacks (although the price-difference there is much bigger than for the softcovers).
I would get the Versatile Spontaneity feat for my PFS Sorcerer if it was possible to get a spellbook. As it is, it will just be way too expensive to burns scrolls to use the feat.
Well, the other problem is that the Ring of Spell Knowledge can do everything that Versatile Spontaneity does (without burning scrolls and with more flexibility) until you get 6th level spell slots at level 12.
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D'oh! Okay, thanks for the answers. I've never actually bought a print product directly from Paizo before, and I'd just heard second-hand about free PDFs with prints. Oh well.
If you subscribe to the companion line, start your sub with the primer, then cancel after it ships, you can get the free PDF along with the book.
*Sigh*
Still playing the "Pending" game. First the notification email goes out late...now the rest of it is too?
I assume that effects when we can purchase the PDF?
I was so looking foreword to next Wednesday ;(