Vic Wertz
Chief Technical Officer
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So, it's intended to be photocopied, and not a pad?
It's not a pad. It's 16 pages, saddlestiched (bookbinder talk for stapled) into a booklet; the cover has a foldout and two pockets to store stuff. You *could* photocopy it (or print the PDF version), but it's a nice enough package that I think most people are just going to want to buy one for each character they run.
| Kelsey MacAilbert |
Kelsey MacAilbert wrote:So, it's intended to be photocopied, and not a pad?It's not a pad. It's 16 pages, saddlestiched (bookbinder talk for stapled) into a booklet; the cover has a foldout and two pockets to store stuff. You *could* photocopy it (or print the PDF version), but it's a nice enough package that I think most people are just going to want to buy one for each character they run.
Not me. They're ten bucks a pop, and I change characters a LOT. I'll probably end up photocopying or printing a PDF.
Vic Wertz
Chief Technical Officer
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Vic Wertz wrote:...most people are just going to want to buy one for each character they run.Not me. They're ten bucks a pop, and I change characters a LOT. I'll probably end up photocopying or printing a PDF.
I think you're already aware that you rarely fit the "most people" category. :-)
| Kelsey MacAilbert |
Kelsey MacAilbert wrote:I think you're already aware that you rarely fit the "most people" category. :-)Vic Wertz wrote:...most people are just going to want to buy one for each character they run.Not me. They're ten bucks a pop, and I change characters a LOT. I'll probably end up photocopying or printing a PDF.
Weirdness has it's benefits.
*runs off to finish blending Eberron and Ravenloft flavor together*
| Kelsey MacAilbert |
Kelsey MacAilbert wrote:I do my character sheets by hand. I sometimes use online generators (not subscription based, though) for some of the math, but that's it for tools.Just for clarity's sake, Hero Lab is not subscription-based.
I thought you had to buy the updates.
I use too many house rules for it to work, anyway. That's why I do things by hand.
| Steve Geddes |
Just announced! The cover image is a mockup; the actual product will feature an all-new cover image by Wayne Reynolds.
I'm curious whether you considered placing this within the Player Companion subscription instead of the rules line?
No doubt it's partly the price leading to my impression, but it seems to me it would fit more neatly there.
Digitalelf
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I'm curious whether you considered placing this within the Player Companion subscription instead of the rules line?
No doubt it's partly the price leading to my impression, but it seems to me it would fit more neatly there.
Player Companion is setting specific (Golarion), this looks to be non-setting specific...
| Joana |
Joana wrote:I thought you had to buy the updates.Kelsey MacAilbert wrote:I do my character sheets by hand. I sometimes use online generators (not subscription based, though) for some of the math, but that's it for tools.Just for clarity's sake, Hero Lab is not subscription-based.
To me, "subscription-based" means you pay a monthly fee for access, like DDI or some online games. Hero Lab pricing is "content-based," meaning you buy the content in each book (or set of books) past Core separately but then never have to pay for it again.
I use too many house rules for it to work, anyway. That's why I do things by hand.
Regardless, it doesn't sound like a product that would be useful to you. I just wanted to clarify because people have been confused by its pricing structure in the past, thinking they have to pay for a new license yearly to continue using it, for example, which would be "subscription-based." :)
Laschoni
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I'm very excited for this I have used the "Complete Character Folio" (PFRPG) by Gamer Ingenuity a few times and have found that it adds a sense of weight to every character I play. I end up really fleshing out the details. My favorite features of the Complete Character Folio were the spaces for familiars or cohorts and the 20 level plan in the back. I also liked the quick status references and folder pockets. I hope this meets that in terms of quality and unlike the competition I hope it is in color.
So in short is it in color; does it have pockets?
| Urath DM |
@Laschoni: Vic Wertz mentioned there are pockets earlier in the thread.
General:
Much depends on the style of game. In games where the PCs routinely die, $10 will likely be seen as too much to invest in a character with a lifespan of single-digit levels.
More interesting to me is how this will be handled in HeroLab. A new output format to match the folio style would be nice. It would be similar to photocopying the printed sheets or printing the PDF.
Chubbs McGee
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Nothing to be really intrigued about unfortunately. I just add everything that is relevant to my character on to my character sheet. So, it includes a description, my stat block, the rules as relevant to my character, equipment tables, equipment descriptions, spell descriptions, cohort and followers etc.
Basically, it saves me time writing carrying a bunch of books around, its all there on my sheet. I am not even the worst at my table for it, there is another player who even outshines me when it comes to the Character Bible!
My character is now 13th-level (gunslinger 1/rogue 2/wizard 10) and there is plenty of notes included for our campaign (Curse of the Crimson Throne) as well. In the end all my character sheets tend to become something like a campaign chronicle.
Aventhar
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I'm assuming that, like most Paizo products, this is going to be awesome. If that is indeed the case, it would be awesome if you guys let the Hero Lab guys create a custom output that mimics this...
| ZDPhoenix |
I'm glad they're making this into a PDF format as well; instead of just a print version.
I don't switch characters often, but some of my players rotate every few months; as do their characters.
My entire gaming group didn't want to buy Gamer Ingenuity's Folio over the lack of PDF support. Which is a shame, as I love making sure 3PP's stay in business. But hey... it's 2012; you can't be short sighted in a competitive market.
You get my cash Paizo. Probably lots more of it before July though. :P
| Wolf Munroe |
I'm actually thinking this will be pretty cool.
I've never used a character folio before but I've eyed a few of them back during 3.5e. This would be less useful to me if I weren't getting the PDF too (subscriber benefit) but $9.99 for the paper copy plus the PDF, I think it will be worth it. I can use the paper copy as a template and probably end up printing specific pages as I need them. I don't like to read PDFs so I use the hardback/dead tree version as a catalog for what I want to print for my game resource binder.
| Clark Whittle |
I absolutely love these. For every AP, I write up a one page history/background with a picture, as I feel it helps flesh out your persona, not just for yourself, but for your group. It adds so much more to the game by allowing your DM a more in depth understanding of the character your portraying and how it fits into his or her campaign. For gaming groups that have made this mandatory, I've had a richer game experience. Looking forward to trying this product out for my current and future characters.
| vonklinen |
Kelsey MacAilbert wrote:I do my character sheets by hand. I sometimes use online generators (not subscription based, though) for some of the math, but that's it for tools.Just for clarity's sake, Hero Lab is not subscription-based.
I love the hero lab character generator for pathfinder rpg. I cannot seem to get the lore warden class however.