There must be a LOT of pre-orders. I just noticed Paizo has stopped calling a certain game "the world's most popular RPG" and started calling it "the world's oldest RPG."
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I have to ask the question. How much will the PDF only price be?
Normally, we price our PDFs at about 30% off of the print edition price; this will have a larger discount, but the exact price is still to be determined.
Whatever the price is, Pathfinder RPG subscribers will get it for free with their subscription copy of the print edition, and Pathfinder Adventure Path subscribers will get it for 15% off.
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Has an exact shipping date for subscribers been determined?
We hope to be able to ship copies in early August, but because of international shipping and customs, we never know exactly when things will reach our warehouse until a day or so before they arrive. So don't look for a firm date until then.
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Has an exact shipping date for subscribers been determined?We hope to be able to ship copies in early August, but because of international shipping and customs, we never know exactly when things will reach our warehouse until a day or so before they arrive. So don't look for a firm date until then.
Lets hope it does not get caught at Customs... That would suck for GenCon.
And now that I have said that...
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Has an exact shipping date for subscribers been determined?We hope to be able to ship copies in early August, but because of international shipping and customs, we never know exactly when things will reach our warehouse until a day or so before they arrive. So don't look for a firm date until then.Lets hope it does not get caught at Customs... That would suck for GenCon.
And now that I have said that...
We have planned for that. The Core Rulebook is coming in two separate shipments, so that if one gets delayed, we'll still be good.
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Has an exact shipping date for subscribers been determined?We hope to be able to ship copies in early August, but because of international shipping and customs, we never know exactly when things will reach our warehouse until a day or so before they arrive. So don't look for a firm date until then.
Any chance of it arriving at our homes before GenCon?
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Any chance of it arriving at our homes before GenCon?Has an exact shipping date for subscribers been determined?We hope to be able to ship copies in early August, but because of international shipping and customs, we never know exactly when things will reach our warehouse until a day or so before they arrive. So don't look for a firm date until then.
I think someone, (Erik?) said it was possible, but I wouldn't count on it.
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I think someone, (Erik?) said it was possible, but I wouldn't count on it.Any chance of it arriving at our homes before GenCon?Has an exact shipping date for subscribers been determined?We hope to be able to ship copies in early August, but because of international shipping and customs, we never know exactly when things will reach our warehouse until a day or so before they arrive. So don't look for a firm date until then.
There is a chance, but we can't guarantee that for anybody.
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Update:
We've made some decisions regarding shipping of the Core Rulebook (and other August subscription products) and Core Rulebook PDF distribution. Here's the lowdown:
Assuming there are no major problems getting the Core Rulebook into our warehouse, we anticipate shipping subscriber orders and preorders starting the first week of August. We'll attempt to stagger-ship them based on transit time so that as many copies as possible arrive as close to the August 13 release date as we can manage. Of course, that's all up to the postal system—some folks will get it a day or two earlier, and some later.
The PDF will become available on August 13 as the Gen Con floor opens. The PDF will be priced at $9.99. Pathfinder RPG subscribers will get it for free (but not until the release date).
The PDF of the core PF RPG will be $9.99 ?!? My word! Are you sure Vic? I am just checking!
Ten bucks...
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For almost six-hundred (!!!) pages of material...
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Holy. Crap!
You guys rock!
Yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh... O.O
That's quite the easy price point to swallow for such a huge PDF.
Ten bucks...
WTF?
Ten bucks...WTF?
Yea! That was MY thought as well. $25 to $30 was my initial guess for the price of the PDF. Not $10.
$10 is a wonderful price. I won't say amazing...more like really, really smart.
First, Paizo has figured out that, for the vast majority of gamers, PDFs and hardcopy aren't substitute goods, they're complementary goods. Which means that practically giving away the PDF will almost certainly generate more hardcopy sales than it will cost, because of the of folks that wouldn't have bothered with the PDF at $20 or $30, but do at $10, only to buy the book down the road.
Second, in some ways a PDF of an RPG's core rules are a classic loss leader. Right now, there is huge value in getting as many people playing Pathfinder RPG (and hopefully buying stuff down the road) as possible. Marketshare, mindshare, etc. In fact, I'm willing to bet that that the $10 price point represents the minimum price that Paizo felt could be charged without damaging the perceived value of the product. I'm sure they considered giving it away.
Paizo is making all the right moves. Meanwhile, I don't see how WotC can be so obtuse. The way they're running right now is a textbook case of corporate hubris, and Paizo is going to eat their lunch because of it.
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First, Paizo has figured out that, for the vast majority of gamers, PDFs and hardcopy aren't substitute goods, they're complementary goods. Which means that practically giving away the PDF will almost certainly generate more hardcopy sales than it will cost, because of the of folks that wouldn't have bothered with the PDF at $20 or $30, but do at $10, only to buy the book down the road.
Exactly my thought! It happened to me quite often, that I find myself buying a hardcopy of a product which I already own the pdf of.
Smart move - let's the community grow - hopefully!!!Can't wait for august...
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The PDF of the core PF RPG will be $9.99 ?!? My word! Are you sure Vic? I am just checking!That is correct, sir! Though of course Pathfinder Adventure Path subscribers will get the Pathfinder Advantage discount, so it's $8.50 for them.
This is great news.
Due to a sharp increase in VATs, July will be my last month as a subscriber of the Chronicles and Companion lines (I'll keep buying them as PDFs, and a yearly shipment of selected printed copies), as even with the Pathfinder Advantage I end up paying more than double the price tag.I calculated the costs for shipping the Core Rulebook to Italy, and no matter what, even with the most optimistic calculations, it was simply not affordable.
So I reverted to an order at my FLGS, and thought of buying the pdf ASAP.
Such a move from Paizo shows the concern for the customer base, even for those of us across the pond.
You're simply too awesome for words.
Grazie.
TEN freakin' dollars?
Vic, are you kidding? O_o
Anyway, I see your plan, and I agree! This will definitely be the best PF spot EVER! Guys, you're great!
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The new price is a really solid idea. I was buying all my Pathfinder products from the game/comic shop so I unfortunately missed out. Now I can still buy a copy and not break bank for it. Very awesome.
I also have to say I find this a good strategy. I know all the gamers at my table can't stand to look at a computer to read through or level up or whatever (like printing off spells). But it's also still nice to HAVE it on the comp for just in case situations. We all prefer hardcovers. This way Paizo still gets all our money for buying the hardback AND gets more from us for the PDF since it's cheap enough to actually purchase.
So now you get MORE money from me.
... well played. Smurf 'n A.
The PDF will become available on August 13 as the Gen Con floor opens. The PDF will be priced at $9.99.
Wow wow wow wow wow!
Incredible news!
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The PDF of the core PF RPG will be $9.99 ?!? My word! Are you sure Vic? I am just checking!That is correct, sir! Though of course Pathfinder Adventure Path subscribers will get the Pathfinder Advantage discount, so it's $8.50 for them.
Hmmm... this is a MOST excellent price, but it does raise a conundrum for me regarding the price of the hardcover and shipping versus other methods.
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This is the address for the thread: http://www.dragonsfoot.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=37027
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This is the address for the thread: http://www.dragonsfoot.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=37027linky-fied
Wow, that site actually banned the discussion of 3.x and 4e? Sounds like a real great community. Even the more moderation-happy sites like ENworld and RPG.net haven't gone that far. That's crazy.
We're getting OT, but it is a community dedicated to old editions of the game.
The $10 pdf is an awesome surprise.
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I hope the servers can handle the load, for those not going to GenCon what time does the floor open on the 13th?I *think* there's an early access opening at 9 AM Eastern Time.
Perhaps there could be an *earlier* access time for those of us that volunteered for GenCon and will be receiving the NDA photocopy? Pretty Please? ;)
I've already offered myself as a slave for GenCon...
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BTW, someone on Dragonsfoot started a thread with the title: Paizo is one insane RPG company! about the PDF price. One of the later posters calls Lisa a marketing genius, however! One of the staff may want to comment (or not)!
This is the address for the thread: http://www.dragonsfoot.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=37027
Crazy like a fox, eh? :)
-Lisa
Crazy like a fox, eh? :)
-Lisa
*plays Jimi Hendrix's "Foxy Lady" for Lisa*
There ya go. :P