Chris Lambertz Community & Digital Content Director |
How is it that nowhere does it say how much the price is & whether it is yearly or monthly. None of it is obvious.
We hear you! An audit and overhaul of our subscription descriptions is currently on my plate and should hit the site this month.
For the Pathfinder Maps sub: we generally release these monthly, occasionally we do have an overlap where a Map Pack and Flip-Mat will release in concert. Each installment is $14.99 (currently). If you have Pathfinder Advantage as a benefit from subscribing to the Pathfinder Adventure Path, the cost of each product is about ~$12.75. Shipping costs will vary depending on where in the world you are and which shipping method you choose.
TimD |
We hear you! An audit and overhaul of our subscription descriptions is currently on my plate and should hit the site this month.
Hey, Chris.
Not sure if this would be included with that, but is there a way you folks can look at the subscription options for maps so that it's easier to opt-in on the non-standard maps?
I know Vic indicated that the classics weren't included with the subscription as subscribers may already have had them, but with the addition of things like bigger tavern in the pipeline, it will be easy for subscribers to miss out if they don't check the maps area as much assuming that we'll automatically get new maps. I assumed that it would be included on mine as it was new, but then saw the note on the side when I was checking the release date.
Chris Lambertz Community & Digital Content Director |
Samy |
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Upon getting a glimpse in the wild of some of the map packs that I had previously dismissed, I would strongly urge map pack pages to have samples of all 18 tiles. As an example, I had initially thought Forest Dangers would be pretty lame, but after actually seeing all the different varieties of situations covered by the map pack, it was a no-brainer for me. The two sample tiles just had not given me a good enough idea of the map pack's versatility.
I suspect that the reason you don't generally do this is either a) you don't want the whole map pack to be easily copied, even with the SAMPLE watermark, or b) lack of manpower. And I can appreciate both reasons. Regardless, I hope that maybe someday you will reconsider or manage to make this workable. Being able to see the whole map pack would really convince me to take the plunge on some of them.
steelhead |
Ross Hearne aka poisonbladed wrote:If I buy a PDF what size could I print one?They are optimized for printing at the original size, which is to say individual Map Pack tiles at 5"x8" and Flip-Mats at 24"x30".
You can print them larger or smaller than that, of course, but the bigger you go, the less sharp they'll be... and if you scale them to anything other than 100%, the 1" squares will no longer be 1" squares.
I'm in a dilemma. The PFS scenario I need the Red Light District Flip-map for is on Sunday and the local gaming store does not have it in stock. I have seen people buy the pdfs of maps in the past and complain about not being able to easily print them to scale. My question is whether a pdf of a Flip-Mat will print to a desktop printer in tiles so I don't have to mess with the scale. If they don't print in scale, does anyone have any recommendations of how to get them to do so? Thanks!
Sara Marie Customer Service Manager |
Samy |
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I hate to be a demanding customer, but I really must ask if you could please start putting more Map Pack tiles on preview. I simply cannot justify an 89% blind purchase decision, with 16 of 18 map tiles completely unknown to me. I have no idea whatsoever what the map pack is going to look like. I don't care if they are super low resolution and watermarked, but I need some kind of better idea of what I'm buying before I can commit.
Hope that doesn't sound too pushy but I really would like to buy more of your product but I can't, and I'm hoping that this feedback will allow you to sell me more product.
Sara Marie Customer Service Manager |
Pathfinder Maps Subscribers! For the month of August 2017, in addition to getting Map Pack: Village Sites, you will also be getting Pathfinder Maps: Flip-Mat: Cavernous Lair with your August subscription! We apologize for the late notice. Please contact customer service as soon as possible if you have questions or concerns.
Vic Wertz Chief Technical Officer |
Hannibal_pjv |
You can order them individually, but the subscription is for the line that includes Flip-Mats as well as Flip-Tiles.
Yes, that is what it seemed to be. In anyway it would be nice to have option to subscribe only Flip-tiles, so the subscription would be more modular. And thank you for the ansver!
Different Gaming croups need different tools, so more option would be nice to have in the future!gbonehead Owner - House of Books and Games LLC |
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The new tiles thing is very cool.
Perhaps we can now turn our attention to the flip mats. While I do like the flip mats, I find them very hard to use in practice, as they are very, very specific.
For example, I was excited about Bigger Keep then it turned out to be "Oddly Shaped Keep On An Island With A Bridge And Boats". I really, really would have preferred just a big rectangle - I could pull that out any time I needed a keep ... now I can pull out the Bigger Keep for those dozens of times I need a keep on an island with a bridge ... oh poop.
Same goes for the forest, and all the other ones ... it's never just a forest, it's a forest with some giant rocks and a hugely distinctive crevice/pit thing, etc., or a swamp with a ruin.
Ironically, even though I buy every single flip mat, I find myself using plain old 1" chart paper and drawing my own generic maps of forests and rivers and the like so that I don't have to deal with outcroppings and standing stones and other weird stuff next to my plain old river.
So ... please keep that in mind for future flip mats ... I'm sure that making general flip mats is very boring for the designers, but I'd vastly prefer a map that is boring for them but I can use dozens of times than one that is fun for them but I have to write my whole game around to use ... once :)
That's one of the reasons I got rid of the double subscription I used to have. In concept, I figured that I could use two of a mat as a larger area, but in practice that never worked because they were so specific. If I'd gotten a plain ol' river, I could easily make a longer river by putting two maps next to each other. But take a look at "Deeper Forest" for example. One side has a giant rock and a big hole leading off the mat, while the other side I would not call "Deeper Forest" at all ... I'd call it ... I dunno ... stonehenge with waterfall? Certainly neither is something you're going to pull out as a generic location.
So please ... once in a while make them kinda generic ... that way I can use them more than once.
Fumarole |
Will the Flip tiles also come with the PDFs if I subscribe?
Any official response to this? The tiles are not listed above as including a PDF, so I would assume no PDF is included, but then the first product in this line hasn't shipped yet so that may be old information. Clarification would be appreciated.
Samy |
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Ladies and gentlemen,
Is there any chance of getting Pirate Ship in the Flip-Mat Classics line? I accidentally bought Ship and then I realized what I really wanted was Pirate Ship. So please, is there any chance to get a Classic of Pirate Ship? I really want it.
Edit: And some browsing later... this may be the fastest service I've ever had.
Vic Wertz Chief Technical Officer |
Jhaeman |
The new tiles thing is very cool.
Perhaps we can now turn our attention to the flip mats. While I do like the flip mats, I find them very hard to use in practice, as they are very, very specific.
For example, I was excited about Bigger Keep then it turned out to be "Oddly Shaped Keep On An Island With A Bridge And Boats". I really, really would have preferred just a big rectangle - I could pull that out any time I needed a keep ... now I can pull out the Bigger Keep for those dozens of times I need a keep on an island with a bridge ... oh poop.
Same goes for the forest, and all the other ones ... it's never just a forest, it's a forest with some giant rocks and a hugely distinctive crevice/pit thing, etc., or a swamp with a ruin.
Ironically, even though I buy every single flip mat, I find myself using plain old 1" chart paper and drawing my own generic maps of forests and rivers and the like so that I don't have to deal with outcroppings and standing stones and other weird stuff next to my plain old river.
So ... please keep that in mind for future flip mats ... I'm sure that making general flip mats is very boring for the designers, but I'd vastly prefer a map that is boring for them but I can use dozens of times than one that is fun for them but I have to write my whole game around to use ... once :)
That's one of the reasons I got rid of the double subscription I used to have. In concept, I figured that I could use two of a mat as a larger area, but in practice that never worked because they were so specific. If I'd gotten a plain ol' river, I could easily make a longer river by putting two maps next to each other. But take a look at "Deeper Forest" for example. One side has a giant rock and a big hole leading off the mat, while the other side I would not call "Deeper Forest" at all ... I'd call it ... I dunno ... stonehenge with waterfall? Certainly neither is something you're going to pull out as a generic location.
So please ... once in a while make them kinda generic ... that way...
I agree with this 100% I've often bought flip-mats thinking I could use them for lots of generic encounters, only to have such memorable design features on them that players laugh and say "oh, we're back there again!" A flip-mat that looks pretty hanging on the wall isn't necessarily a good flip-mat for use in dozens of encounters over the years.
Marco Massoudi |
I may have missed it, but are Map Packs being replaced with the flip tiles? I do not see anymore listed for pre-order and nothing listed on the subscription line up?
You are absolutely right, the old map packs (5 x 8 squares/inches) are not continued but replaced with the much more usefully measured (6 x 6 squares/inches) DOUBLESIDED flip tiles, which also come in an actual two pieces card boxes for easy re-storage.
Whoever designed and greenlighted these changes deserves a lot of praise and thanks imo. :-)Z...D... |
Z...D... wrote:You are absolutely right, the old map packs (5 x 8 squares/inches) are not continued but replaced with the much more usefully measured (6 x 6 squares/inches) DOUBLESIDED flip tiles, which also come in an actual two pieces card boxes for easy re-storage.I may have missed it, but are Map Packs being replaced with the flip tiles? I do not see anymore listed for pre-order and nothing listed on the subscription line up?
Thanks.
Marco Massoudi |
Is there a plan to release map packs specific to the adventure paths? Or should I just stick to my battlemat? I can understand how logistically intensive producing maps for an adventure path might be...
Unfortunately it's the later, James Jacobs answered that somewhere.
So it is flip-mats and 3D terrain.The good thing is that this doesn't seem to be the case with the modules announced so far, as there are Maps fort the first two at least. :-)
Diego Valdez Customer Service Representative |
Diego Valdez Customer Service Representative |
logic_poet |
It would be really great if the product pages of the maps had a reverse lookup like the spoiler-tagged links in the organized play scenario pages. So each map could have a spoiler link to what adventures, if any, use that map. It might even be useful to the organized play developers, too!
Ashanderai |
It would be really great if the product pages of the maps had a reverse lookup like the spoiler-tagged links in the organized play scenario pages. So each map could have a spoiler link to what adventures, if any, use that map. It might even be useful to the organized play developers, too!
Seconded! That is a fantastic suggestion!