Here are the full rules that I put together as handout when I was GMing a scenario here: Subjective Directional Gravity In most parts of the Plane of Air, an individual chooses the direction of gravity’s pull. When walking on solid surfaces, choosing the direction of the surface to be “down” is relatively intuitive and does not require a skill check. In midair, creatures with natural flight can fly normally. Those without the ability to fly, or those who would prefer to move faster, can attempt to set the direction of gravity. Once per round as a free action, an individual can attempt a DC 16 Wisdom check to pick a new direction for gravity. If she succeeds, she begins falling in that direction, moving 150 feet in a straight line on the first round and 300 feet on each succeeding round. If she fails, she can attempt the Wisdom check again the following round. The DC decreases to 12 until she succeeds. Once an individual starts falling in a direction, stopping requires a successful DC 16 Wisdom check to set gravity in the exact opposite direction. If she succeeds, she continues falling 150 feet in her original direction for 1 round, and then stops. Falling is a Move action If falling adjacent to object/structure upon which creature could stand, DC 18 Wisdom or Reflex check to stop on/at it.
Because an individual in free fall cannot stop quickly, performing actions during the fall is difficult. However, the PCs may ready actions and perform them during the free fall, such as readying an action to grab an object or to attack a creature while soaring past it. Moving past an opponent in this manner provokes an attack of opportunity. A PC under the effects of a feather fall spell falls at only 60 feet per round and gains a +2 circumstance bonus on the Wisdom checks to change direction.
Volsung looks a little more serious, "Aye, I have some skill with convincing others to follow my preferred course of action. However, doing so is not guaranteed and can be of limited duration."
"Nonetheless, let us go and meet with this Captain Beysal. Do we know anything more about her that might help with persuading her? Do we have time to make inquiries?"
"Alas, I'm unable to persuade nature to let me fly, so I will be purchasing two potions of flying."
>Cheliax took L after L in PF1. What's largely saving them from the next seven catastrophes is that "the Whispering Tyrant is up and about" lets Cheliax say "we're Diablolists, sure, but that just means we want to stay alive!" and play nice with their neighbors and lick their wounds and rebuild Cheliax. Yeah, TB is the best thing ever to happen to Cheliax. Otherwise, it would have been a prime target for all the now unemployed crusaders against evil extra-planar creatures as well as all the anti-slavery nations and organizations.
Wow this is sad....I don't think it's a slight? It's not uncommon for a reference to be valence flipped just to throw people off scent on a character.OK, I've got an idea for a NPC named "Sutter," so the players will be surprised when he turns out to be an intelligent and clever writer. I'm glad you agree that mocking an actual person in this manner is a petty move, and I apologize for having done so in regards to John Sutter. Honestly without evidence to prove otherwise I would assume this is all just coinsidence I'm not sure which would reflect more poorly on Paizo, deliberately naming the NPC in this manner or not being aware of who "Pratchett" is in a fantasy context. OK, I've had my say and stand by everything I've written here, even if I'm the only person on Roundworld who feels this way.
...I don't think it's a slight? It's not uncommon for a reference to be valence flipped just to throw people off scent on a character. OK, I've got an idea for a NPC named "Sutter," so the players will be surprised when he turns out to be an intelligent and clever writer.
So, Terry Pratchett writes some of the best fantasy books ever written, many of them focusing on the city and guard of Ankh-Morpork (the Discworld's Absalom). One of these novels, Night Watch, has opposition to torture as a major theme. In return, Paizo names the murderous sadistic villain of Book 1 of the AP after him (and no one can tell me that they didn't know what they were doing when they used this name). It may not be a big thing, but it comes as across as really tacky and petty.
The one other thing I did was to try and put together a timeline for the events of Book 6 along with the Siege of Gallowspire and Passing the Torch 2. CAMPAIGN TIMELINE Day 1 – Destruction of Vigil and TB’s escape from Gallowspire Day 28 - TB v Arazani at Renchurch Day 35 – TB uses radiant fire at Hammer Rock Day 40 (day 1 battle timeline, see below) - TB takes first wave of Fallowdeep forces to Immenwood outside of Absalom Day 42 – PCs return to Lastwall (PCs spend two weeks doing book 5) Day 43 – PCs go to Fallowdeep BATTLE TIMELINE Day 1 (day 40 of campaign timeline) - Initial wave of TB’s forces in arrives in Immenwood Day 2 - Lyanthari closes teleportation circles Day 3 - AP PCs arrive at Fallowdeep Day 4 Day 5 - AP PCs arrive at Immenwood battlefield from Fallowdeep (start rolling for Passing the Torch 2 random event) Day 6 - Flash Point Encounters 1 (start rolling for Siege of Gallowspire conclusion) Day 7 - Flashpoint Encounters 2 Day 8 - Tyrant’s Grasp Book 6 concluding day I'm not totally happy with this and would welcome any comments, suggestions, etc.
A question and a thought: Question about the Decemvirate masks on pp. 54-56 - Eliza Petulengro's "mask of whorled black mesh that wraps the head like a tangle of thorns" is the bottom left on p. 54, correct? Thought - I'm not sure "faction" is the best term for the new PFS2 factions. To my mind, faction implies a certain amount of conflict and dissention inside an organization. Consider the phrase "faction-ridden" which is almost always used in a negative way. The new Society guide describes the new factions in a fairly positive light, certainly as compared to the previous ones. I don't have a great substitute in mind. "Affiliation" is one term that did occur to me.
I asked about folks' thoughts on Mountain Stance, Leaping, definition of "ground," etc. on a local Discord channel. Two people who GM regularly gave me two fairly different answers. At this point, I think I'll be retraining my little dwarf monk from Mountain Stance to either Monastic Weaponry or Wolf Stance. There seems to be too much table variation regarding Mountain Stance. I thought I understood how it worked, but it looks like I was just kidding myself. EDIT: Thanks to those who started and contributed to this thread and the similar one in General Discussion. There have been many interesting ideas and much to think about.
I think my most important uses of leaping have been out of combat - jump over a gorge to fix a bridge, jump from floating platform to floating platform to impress people, etc. I have leaped over difficult terrain a couple of times in combat, but that's been less critical to the success of the adventure. However, I'm still only 5th level and haven't picked up feats such as Dancing Leaf and Flying Kick. While I felt comfortable with my reading of the relevant rules, I am putting together an email to send to folks who GM PF2e games that I play in. We'll see what they have to say. If they disagree with my interpretation, I think I'll survive emotionally as there are a lot of interesting alternative monk features, feats, etc. If only I hadn't spent all those PFS2e achievement points to get an orc PC.
... Or how the section on Speed refers to "land speed" over the "ground."
Now I wonder something else. How granular are people treating this? I'm imagining a GM trying to slide a hand under the monk like a wrestling referee checking if shoulders are on the mat. I'm guessing RAI is that you're still allowed to do modest hops, run, avoid legsweeps, that sort of thing.Well, technically speaking you are not touching the ground even when just moving fast, i.e. normal running, if you do not use some kind of racewalking techniques. However I would never ever consider this an issue at all (and even if it were an issue it is probably already covered by the speed penalty incurred by the stance) and thus not question the requirement any further. Going too deep here is nonsense. How I handle this is to say that a monk in mountain stance must at some point in their turn be on the ground. What's a big no-no is not touching the ground at all during one's turn, say by flying or swimming. Mind you, this is how I'm interpreting this as a player. However, I've never had a GM go, "You just did a long jump, so you are no longer in mountain stance."
You can Stride across liquid and surfaces that don’t support your weight. This benefit lasts only during your movement. If you end your movement on a surface that can’t support you, you fall in or it collapses as normal.Monks with this feat can use their land Speed to walk over water. Pjrogers, would you rule that they remain in Mt Stance when they do so? I'd make them reactivate it on the other side. (Well, if I didn't houserule away the ground requirement completely.) No, because it's clear that water is not ground as this particular feat is needed for you to use you land/ground speed to cross it.
Lacking any clear guidance from the design team or explicit definition of "ground," I have interpreted it as follows. "Touching the ground" means being in position to use one's "land speed," as this described as "how quickly [one] can move across the ground." Moving around on the deck of a ship, you are using your land/ground speed which would allow one to be in mountain stance. If you're on a flying carpet, you're using its fly speed and thus not in position to be in mountain stance. Note this does mean, I'd be OK with someone being in mountain stance on the deck of a flying ship as long as they are in position to use their land/ground speed to move about the ship.
I'm running The Witchwar Legacy, and it's been good fun. The party does have a 18th level cleric with Mass Heal which has saved them at least once.
This was also one of my initial reactions making it seem like the 2e Magus will play something like the 1e Bloodrager where you have to be very careful about your use of spells because you get so few per day..
Oh man, heartbond is in there? That's awesome! Definitely something I'd love to have in my games. It's like an income tax credit for married folks.
Volsung continues to try and encourage the villagers to move upstairs by pointing to the carnage wrought by Dolph and Victor. "Look good people, not only Iomedae but also a savage gardener and his goat are here to protect you."
He also stares long and hard at the one remaining tentacle.
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Still leveling and also likely to do one more adventure on 3/21 before start of this game. However, if we can/want to start early, I have another PC to play then and can begin whenever.
Imperial measurements, on the other hand, I have absolutely no defense for. They have tradition going for them, but basically nothing else. I've always had a certain perverse fondness for British old money. Maybe that will return after Brexit.
Traveling to a meeting in Michigan so I'll be out of contact for much of the day. Also, the meeting continues through Friday, so I'll be checking and posting here less often than I might otherwise do so.
Pyre, Torrent, and Pike are great examples that are easy fits for paladins/champions. There are canon LG npcs in the Order of the Nail, and Godclaw lends itself to a lot of versatility from its members, as well. The Order of the Pyre takes the position that "whatever does not mesh with Chelish thinking or does not have an existing role within society as dangerous." This is a Chelish society ruled by a pawn of Asmodeus. The Order of the Torrent has apparently been destroyed by the Order of the Rack. The Order of the Pike is a minor order with a limited mission and geographic operating area. The Order of the Nailmainly operates outside of Cheliax and were quite happy to help with the kidnapping and imprisonment of Zarta Dralneen because she was viewed as a threat to the Thrune regime. Finally, the Order of the Godclaw is in direct conflict with the Church of Iomedae and her followers which would seem to give lie to the argument that it represents LG values and interests. The vast majority of the Hellknight Orders and their Hellknight members are at best Cheliax's Wehrmacht and are more commonly it's SS.
I think I may have not expressed myself clearly here. Earlier in this discussion, I had concerns that in the context of the PF2e rules, the word, "ground", might be limited to earth, stone, or something similar. This would then present problems for using Mountain Stance in certain situations. After doing my Google search of the 2e.aeonprd.com site, it's clear to me that in a rules context, "ground" means any level surface, and thus a monk could go into Mountain Stance on the upper floor of a wooden house, the deck of boat or airship, etc. I'm not trying to be ultra-picky, but I think it's critical that words and terms be clearly defined in terms of what they mean in this, or any other set of rules. Many (most?) English words have multiple meanings and can mean very different things to different people and depending on their context.
OK, I went and changed my mind after doing a Google search - "ground" site:2e.aonprd.com - which is something I should have done earlier. It's now pretty clear to me that PF2e uses "ground" in the broadest possible way, such as in the following sentence "Most characters and monsters have a speed statistic—also called land Speed—which indicates how quickly they can move across the ground." |
