If I'm playing a Weapon implement thaumaturge, can I choose whip as my implement so that I can make Implement's Interruptions at reach, while simultaneously wielding a longsword in my other hand for higher damage attacks via Implement's Empowerment? Are there any downsides to doing so?
"You don't gain the benefit of implement's empowerment if you are holding anything in either hand other than a single one-handed weapon, other implements, or esoterica, and you must be holding at least one implement to gain the benefit."
You are only allowed "a single one-handed weapon". As such, holding 2 means no bonus.
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You are only allowed "a single one-handed weapon". As such, holding 2 means no bonus.
Only allowed if you want to use Implementat's Empowerment.
At lower levels, with a weapon implement, that's essentially the same choice any other martial character makes when choosing between the higher damage of a two-handed weapon and other options.
Of course, a longsword without it doesn't have higher damage than a whip that has it, so this combination will just reduce your damage.
And once you get s did implement you'll privacy want to carry that anyway.
Thaumaturge does have some inherent antisynergy with dual wielding because every dual wield feat Ive seen combines the attacks for weaknesses.
Either hand only has one weapon though. It's not like I have a spiked gauntlet and a sword in the same hand.
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Either hand only has one weapon though. It's not like I have a spiked gauntlet and a sword in the same hand.
Yeah, a single weapon in either hand: there is no need for the word single if both hands could hold weapons. If you ever have a weapon in both hands, you don't get Implement's Empowerment until you stop holding a weapon in one of those hands.
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Either hand only has one weapon though. It's not like I have a spiked gauntlet and a sword in the same hand.
If the requirement was about having more than one weapon in the same hand, that would matter. When you have a weapon in one hand and a second weapon in your other hand, you don't get Implement Emowerment.
Thaumaturge has two damage boosting features. Exploit Vulnerability doesn't care what kind of Strikes you make. Imolement Empowerment compensates for the need to hold implements pushing you away from two-handers and dual wielding, and never works with either of those things.
Immolement Empowerment sounds like a much more impressive ability. That's what I am going to call a Flaming Rune from now on.
Eh, serves me right for typing on a tiny phone.
So does Implement's Empowerment shut off if you happen to also be wearing a gauntlet, spiked gauntlet, or other free hand weapon?
Feels TBTBT for any thaumaturges investing in heavy armor and the like.
So does Implement's Empowerment shut off if you happen to also be wearing a gauntlet, spiked gauntlet, or other free hand weapon?
Only if that hand is empty: if that hand is holding a single weapon, implements or esoterica you're fine.
Feels TBTBT for any thaumaturges investing in heavy armor and the like.
Nothing prevents you from removing the gauntlets from a suit of heavy armor and nothing related to an armors AC is linked to wearing them.
"A pair of these metal gloves comes with full plate, half plate, and splint armor; they can also be purchased separately and worn with other types of armor."
A heavily armored knight without gauntlets is just...weird.
Mind you could argue that if you have a weapon implement in one hand and a one handed weapon in the other you are obeying the rules.
I fail to see how it could be argued any other way.
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A heavily armored knight without gauntlets is just...weird.
Weirder than carrying around "cold iron nails, scraps of scrolls and scriptures, fragments of bones purportedly from a saint, and other similar objects"? I think the least weird part would be the lack of gauntlets.
Mind you could argue that if you have a weapon implement in one hand and a one handed weapon in the other you are obeying the rules.I fail to see how it could be argued any other way.
It's quite hard to get around "a single one-handed weapon": it has no qualifier. This means if you are wielding a weapon and an implement that's a weapon that non-implement weapon wouldn't be a single weapon anymore: it'd be a second weapon.
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Mind you could argue that if you have a weapon implement in one hand and a one handed weapon in the other you are obeying the rules.
You could, but not while being right.
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Mind you could argue that if you have a weapon implement in one hand and a one handed weapon in the other you are obeying the rules.I fail to see how it could be argued any other way.
The fact that it explicitly states otherwise seems like a pretty solid argument to me.
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Mind you could argue that if you have a weapon implement in one hand and a one handed weapon in the other you are obeying the rules.I fail to see how it could be argued any other way.
The key word is that implement's empowerment insists on a single weapon. Just because something is also an implement in addition to a weapon, doesn't mean it doesn't count when someone asks "are you holding more than a single weapon?"
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The key word is that implement's empowerment insists on a single weapon. Just because something is also an implement in addition to a weapon, doesn't mean it doesn't count when someone asks "are you holding more than a single weapon?"It's quite hard to get around "a single one-handed weapon": it has no qualifier. This means if you are wielding a weapon and an implement that's a weapon that non-implement weapon wouldn't be a single weapon anymore: it'd be a second weapon.Mind you could argue that if you have a weapon implement in one hand and a one handed weapon in the other you are obeying the rules.I fail to see how it could be argued any other way.
Well, now I can see how it could be argued another way. XD