People on here will give you the Rules
The Rules do not say that you can have your familiar take class levels as they advance as you do in your own class.
Now if you want your familiar to take class levels, that is between you and your GM since he is the final arbiter as to what will be allowed. At this time however, there is no basis for it
Yes you can find rule-breaking things in adventure paths, I just finished (literally last night) running Rise of the Runelords and even in the anniversary edition was able to find rule issues. NPCs/enemies (especially humanoids) are not always written by someone with explicit knowledge of the rules, they write them up as they want them to be and what best fits the story. This is also what a GM does.
So again, its up to your GM as he/she will have to figure out/decide how to keep track of your familiar and change the game based around that. Does the familiar get an equal share of the XP? Does the familiar get equal share in gold? Does your familiar get to decide RP wise that he hates your PC and now leaves of his own accord? Do you continue to gain all the associated benefits from this familiar even though now he is more of a full NPC?
These things are not in the rules so the answer is no, but your GM can easily say yes :)
Tsuto almost caused a TPK by his lonesome in my game...he surprised 2 of the players and stunning fisted one...then beat him in initiative and hit him 2 more times...then using acrobatics got around to the Druid of the group and almost took him down
in fact if I hadn't forgot that he had sneak attack the first character would have just flat out died
I would toss this to metagaming
The actual damage done is something calculated and tracked outside of game...using that knowledge IN game is disingenious to the game itself
I have played with many that metagame and it is not my cup of tea and not fun me at all
I may know that skeletons have DR 5/ bludgeoning but my character may not...so for me to decide to use my normal mace over my sword that I ALWAYS use is metagaming
I don't see a difference between that and waiting for a damage roll to decide my save...if my character actually sees a fireball go off and decides not to react (save) then he's not my character anymore...he's stupid and probably deserves the damage he's about to recieve
Ninja's Assassinate + Invisible Blade? Does it count as being "recognized" if under the effects of invisible blade?
Ninja's Assassinate + Invisible Blade? Does it count as being "recognized" if under the effects of invisible blade?
Ninja's Assassinate + Invisible Blade? Does it count as being "recognized" if under the effects of invisible blade?
Remy Balster wrote:
And that is where I have to respectfully disagree...you have recognized the is "something" killing people in your presence...until you pinpoint what it was then you do not know what it was.
If a sorcerer casts phantasmal killer stilled and silenced on someone in a crowded area and no one can make the spell craft check...would the sorcerer be somehow recognized as the assailant? My view is no...for the same reason the ninja is not recognized as well.
It was brought up before (don't have link for the thread)...style feats are feats that have the descriptor (combat,style)
The other feats are part of that style'a path but are not themselves style feats and do not have the "style" in their descriptor
If you read the Master of Many Styles bonus feat class feature it mentions taking style feats or alternatively taking a feat in the styles path
When people ask question on the rules forum myself (and others I'm sure) try to give answers based on the RAW first and foremost
If I cannot find a RAW answer I look for RAI answers
Any opinion I express here is just that...an opinion and I have that right
If someone wants Advice or a Suggestion on how I would rule it then there are forums for that
There are rules for improvised weapons...however it covers using items not meant for combat as weapons...longspear has its own listing in the weapons chart...the RAW does not support someone using the haft as a weapon unless they have one of the archetypes or abilitylies that allow it
Again this is what I could find based on RAW...RAI I still believe the same...as I mentioned before if anyone could simply decide to use it that way then these archetypes would have somewhat useless abilities
If the OP wants my actual rule...as if one of my players asked...I would base it on one of the abilities I could find and then rule from there. I would allow them to do it by using an immediate action at least...and a -5 penalty to attack at least
I am in no way doubting the actual real life ability of someone using the butt-end of a spear to hit someone...there's forums for that on SCA sites
Darksol the Painbringer wrote:
He can flurry with a 2 handed weapon but not 2 weapon fight...even though they are similar
Background story can be good and bad for different reasons
It gives the player a backdrop...something that even during writing the character may help the player flesh out their character more
It gives the GM a chance to see what the player " thinks" of their creation and what direction they can see the character going and what sort of growth is possible
And finally...for RP reasons it helps the GM hold players to their character...and can help people that are new to RPing (the GM and other players can give tips to play the character they want)
Having a fully fleshed character with some crazy backstory can keep players from growing within the world.
Example: a fellow gamer of mine made a character for our new campaign. We started at 6th level. His character was apparently a personal body guard to a sheik or king or something. This creates a few issues in game. First off his character is very confrontational due to the fact that he is used to everyone listening to him in his backstory. Second, this creates the same tension within our group for the same reason. Third, persoanlly i have no idea why anyone that was a personal body guard to someone so important would be with our party
Players adding or wanting g mechanical goodies. This being someone writing a backstory and attempting to brow beat the GM into okaying some bonus of one type or another just because if "fits the character"
Now I'm all for giving something to the players if they write good backstory...but it should be small and should definitely be chosen by the GM
I agree with Cardinal...the game is already designed for a "normal" character to win...munchkins and min/maxers believe that to win a combat means that you must defeat the enemy in one round...this is not the case and is in fact no fun for myself when I play
Play your character...if anyone complains about your damage output...tell them to roleplay it out...good luck on their character explaining a difference in damage "in game" within everyone thinking they have gone mad
They do not need a FAQ for this...what they need is a flag option to lock the thread or something similar
When you cast the spell you get A free action touch attack to deliver it...JUST ONE
Any further touch attacks must be done as normal actions
There is no one on earth actually confused about this...even you said yourself that we all know how its suppose to work
Threads like this waste time when people FAQ it
Also please read the sticky on page one...it tells you that IF you do wish to FAQ something that it needs to be a well worded question...not a jumble of if this and if thats
A creature that takes a direct hit from a healing bomb is healed as if she had imbibed the infusion or potion used to create the bomb. Creatures in the splash radius are healed for the minimum amount of damage the cure spell is capable of healing. A healing bomb damages undead instead of healing them.
They target is healed by the amount they would have been healed had they drank the potion/infusion....splash is the minimum
So for CL 5 cure light....target gets 1d8+5 and splash get 2
A good combo, albeit resource heavy, for dealing a LOT of nonlethal damage for a rogue is
Sap Adept wrote:
Sap Master wrote:
So lets say at level 7 with 4d6 sneak attack
In one attack you deal your normal damage + 64...dex rogue with an agile sap can get an easy 1d4+5 so average 7 + 64= 71
Now I can't remember for sure but I also believe there was a feat or something that let you simply try to knockout someone but if memory serves it was a fort DC and a low one at that
There are no rules for custom magic items...there are "guidelines"
Some magic items fall quite far out of the guidelines...this is because they are also priced on their usefulness
This is why I disagree with people when they break down certain items by ability since it doesn't work that way all the time. Yes it makes using those abilities in your own campaigns more difficult to price, but its also up to you to determine how effective that would be in your campaign
So in this case what weapon is he wanting to add the ability to? If its a one handed weapon then it's already more effective than the trident...since he can use it and another weapon, and even attempt to get the ability one both
That is just an example...you have to think about it yourself very hard ;)
I understand getting to the RAW, but even when you do all rules are supposed to be read using some common sense, even in PFS. I'm not against people wanting to find definitive answers. It's just that I see stuff like this argument over PA and I just see the devs (if they read it) pulling out their hair, laughing, or just feeling pain in their soul.
I honestly think that they (no specific dev in mind) let arguments like this go on without jumping in and answering to see if eventually a consensus can be reached.
People believe that even in PFS GM's have to make stupid calls, but as I posted recently I finally went to talk to a PFS GM and many of the things I heard about PFS are exaggerated 99% of the time. The ones that are completely true usually come down to it just being a bad GM who doesn't particularly like a specific player.
Isn't it written somewhere in the CRB that common sense should be used? I may have read that in a D&D book or one of the other RPG's I play but when I get mine back from the friend I lent it to I will double check.
The people I play with and myself both believe (and play) that PA gives the "one-handed" bonus/penalty if you are using the weapon in one hand, that included using a 2H weapon in one hand. If you wield a weapon in 2 hands, then you get the "two-handed" bonus/penalty.
Come Monday I will go do my new favorite thing and visit the local PFS GM's and ask how they run PA in cases where someone can wield a 2H weapon in one hand. Whether this is FAQ or not I personally do not care, but for those that just need someone to tell them I will hit the FAQ button :) and I really hope it helps.
So I went to my local gaming store and asked if there was a PFS group...there was. So I came in on the day they meet and asked the GM how they run sneak attack with stealth since (in the opinion of a few people) by RAW you cannot get SA from stealth...his response quoted perfectly was..
"I'm not sure what you are asking."
From here I said some of the things stated here in this thread. He actually stopped me in the middle of one of my sentences and said...
"Ok wait...of course you get sneak attack if you attack from stealth. I, as well as the other PFS GM's that GM here, I have never come across anyone that doesn't allow it and I've been role playing for 34 years."
I mentioned some more of the views from the thread, acting as if I were arguing that it shouldn't, and he followed with...
"Well then you would never be able to GM here, or probably in PFS period. We have to uphold the rules as they are written but with common sense and hopefully to the enjoyment of the players. If a player came in to play a rogue and was told he could not get sneak attack off if he successfully beat the perception roll of an enemy. Not only would he probably get up and leave but I would more than likely here about this from the VC"
I had to ask him what VC was :)
After talking with this guy I am actually going to try PFS...I had mistakenly based my opinion of it on so many people heresy of it, saying that they make stupid calls simply because "its the RAW", but I brought up a few things that I had heard and he said...
"That's usually someone that was a GM that came into GMing from being a rules lawyer and either got kicked from his groups, or had all of his players leave. They become PFS GMs because they want the power and figure that their interpretation of the rules cannot be questioned in PFS. They are very wrong and I've seen quite a few have to quit after MANY players left their games for good."
EDIT:I asked him afterwards if I could quote him in the threads and he was fine with it.
My opinion of PFS has been changed :)
I did this to find out WHY arguments like this one are even needed, now maybe my local gaming area was just lucky and got some good GMs, but after speaking with him I have no reason to ever argue this, if PFS GMs rule it that way, and by god every home game I've ever been in has as well, then I see no reason to argue the RAW when the RAI beats the RAW in this situation with a natural 20.
Oh and if anyone was reading the Barbarian not getting sneak attack thread, the PFS GM I spoke with laughed at this wholeheartedly and said he hopes they get a new GM.
As for the bite...as stated many times in many threads...spell combat is a special full round action, not a full attack action, so you cannot add in your bite attack
Spell Combat calls out "he can make all of his attacks with his melee weapon at a -2 penalty..." so you get all your attacks with the weapon and 1 spell, thats it
However since this seems to very much be for a home game, just throw caution to the wind and allow it...a bite won't be that big of a deal. If you do then its secondary, so -5 to hit from BAB and only 1/2 str
EDIT: GRRR!! NEFREET, just had to add that and make my post useless eh
We are gathered here today to mourn the loss of Vincent The Dark's "excitement", it was dealt a lethal blow with no provocation. It was a pointless crime, one can only hope that Vincent The Dark can still live on, and maybe once again find "excitement" for this game.
[for real though]Glad to see someone get excited on these forums over just bickering and whatnot, hope you have fun bro
@IejirIsk I believe its only 1/3 for mundane/alchemical items, pretty much anything "non-magical"
Pretty much everything works different between magic and mundane crafting, for instance
ALL of that is for crafting mundane/alchemical items, magic items go by completely different rules
you use the ranks in the skill as your CL
You have to have craft(weapons) for magic weapons
EDITEDSo if you wanted to make a +2 Musket, that would cost 8000gp, you have to already have a masterwork musket to make it magical
it takes 8 hours of work a day per 1000g of the item, so it would take you at least 8 days to make this, at the end of this time you make a craft check DC=5+CL of the item and you have to pay 1/2 of the base price of the item, so 4000gp
The CL of an item with no abilities and only an enhancement bonus is equal to the bonus X3, so CL 6 for this weapon, your craft DC would be 11, however if you fail the check, your time AND money are wasted
If you had a certain one in mind and cannot figure out the math to it, post what you want and I'll do what I can to explain better
No one has yet proven that Vital Strike is a worthless feat
1)For Furious Focus it is giving no straight damage increase (I'm asking for only that since that is what this game is all about to some people)
2)Precise Strike is assuming someone else wants to also take it and its only +1d6 per attack...we are talking about situations where you will be moving to hit so only get one attack...how is 1d6 better than an extra 2d6?
3)Deadly stroke is farther away than 6th level and that's the only level I'm dealing with in this situation, and you are also assuming that this fighter is spending 1 of his 2 skill points on Intimidate(I'm assuming that this PC was made by a min/maxer and so Int is useless for a fighter). I personally like that feat chain if it fits the character but again that doesn't add straight damage for this level 6 fighter
4)1/2 my point on this thread is people seem to only care about a feat thats going to make you ALL POWERFUL instead of someone taking a feat that works depending on the situation or that doesn't fit the character
I like Vital Strike, its something to take so when you are forced to move to hit you do some more damage without losing anything...again I'm not saying its godly and that EVERYONE should take it...but for a basic fighter character (especially 2 handers) its NOT a worthless feat either
My other point is when you break down a character for nothing but DPR and such you are Min/Maxing, which is pointless if you are trying to play this game for what it is suppose to be
Again I will ask...if "dim light" is based on perception ability and not actual lighting, then would a shadowdancer be able to use his abilities since his darkvision would negate "dim light" not only within 10 ft of him but within 60 ft as well, you cannot say that its based off perception and then say that its only "other people's" perception...please explain how you would allow a shadowdancer to work in your game
It says "area of dim light" not "source" there is no RAW for an "area of dim light", the closest thing I could find was
Areas of dim light include outside at night with a moon in the sky, bright starlight, and the area between 20 and 40 feet from a torch.
Based off that I think its safe to say that an "area" has to be at least a 5 ft square since everything(other than small objects of course) is basically measured by how many 5 ft squares it takes up
So if someone makes a character and that character is a fighter...he wants a way to get more damage when he has to move, which barring him having his own personal caster-wagon he cannot do unless he goes mobile fighter and not until level 11, or takes on using a move action to put away his sword, draw bow, then only be able to fire one time before the other opponent is even up on him and that's IF he has quick draw to get the bow out as free action.
You are saying that they should just play a different class?
Gotcha...so the character doesn't matter as much as his DPR? You should only play a class and build that does the MOST DPR you can get regardless of whether its the character you wanted to play?...am I getting this correct?
If so...at that point it is no longer role playing and I don't want any part of it, why even role play when all that matters is your DPR
I would say the Errata works both ways with size, if a small "two-handed" firearm cannot be used as one category lower as a "one-handed" firearm, then a small "one-handed" firearm should not count as a "light" firearm.
The definitions for weapon size aren't defined as handedness, they are defined as a size difference:
A weapon's size category isn't the same as its size as an object. Instead, a weapon's size category is keyed to the size of the intended wielder. In general, a light weapon is an object two size categories smaller than the wielder, a one-handed weapon is an object one size category smaller than the wielder, and a two-handed weapon is an object of the same size category as the wielder.
So based on what the errata is for firearms and weapons size going "bigger" I would go with the same for "smaller", using a small pistol would be just as against the rules as using a large pistol, same way a medium character cannot use a large two-handed firearm or a small two-handed firearm.
In the case of weapon sizes in general I think a character would not see using a firearm not sized for him as a benefit even if the "numbers" did work out, the actual numerical penalties are not character knowledge, he should only care about the fact that using a weapon not sized for him is harder to use, even though (in case you go with a small pistol is "light") mechanically gives him a lesser penalty on his main hand shots
Read the full thing with Vivisectionist's sneak attack
This is how I think it should mention ANY sneak attack stacking, since this is how my GM rules it but its up to you on other classes stacking their sneak attack like say a rogue 5/assassin 1, my GM rules its still a 6th level rogue so I get 3d6 (3d8 for me since I'm a knife master) and so on my 2nd assassin level I gained an additional dice since I would work out to be a 7th level rogue with 4 sneak attack dice.
My GM likes it (and I agree) like this so you can't try to multiclass lets say fighter 3/rogue 1/vivisectionist 1/ assassin 1 and end up with the same sneak attack dice as someone fully committed to rogue
Yes, you can get that many attacks and yes, you will have a hard time hitting, but lets say you do hit with every single attack...thats only 7d2+35 total for average of 42 with max of 49, you are using up expensive ammo that would need to be replenished too
A fighter archer or ranger at that same level using a +1 composite longbow (+1 str rating as well) and the same stats and feats plus Manyshot and can add Deadly Aim since he doesn't take as many negatives, gets a total of 3 attacks, 4 arrows, and does 4d8+27 with an average of 43 with max of 59 his attacks being about the same for hit at +9
The archer has you be in damage, and takes no negatives for shooting at 30 ft, while your shurikens only have a range of 10ft for no negatives, after that its another -2 per increment.
Now I'm not saying that shurikens can't be used well...but simply getting more attacks doesn't always mean more damage :)
(if my math be wrong please let me know)
@PsychoticWarrior: OMG someone finally says it...EVERY should read that post and stop bickering over things, MOST of the time its something really simple that didn't/doesn't need FAQ's or ERRATA and could just be brought to their GM, or its someone trying to (forgive the term) MIN/MAX their way to greatness so they want rules bend to their side of the argument
Granted there are legitimate questions to actual issues with rules, most of the simple issues with players wanting to do things that aren't covered in the rules and them saying "well it doesn't say I CAN'T do it" can be solved by the GM asking (my favorite thing my GM asks players) a very simple question in response "Where does it say you CAN?"
if you are using a one handed weapon in your off hand and not a light weapon then you take -4 to all attacks
Yes you roll a d20 for every "attack"...not just one for each weapon. You roll: d20+BAB+STR, thats your attack roll (to hit)
For damage you roll: Weapon damage+STR for main hand, Weapon damage+1/2STR for off hand attacks (unless you take double slice)
Based off your BAB only, your attacks would be (I'll be using 2 longswords for this)
Longsword +2/-3 (1d8+X(1.0xStr bonus),Longsword +2/-3 (1d8+X(0.5xStr bonus)
note again this is WITHOUT knowing your stats...you would add your full str bonus to all your attacks to hit...your full str bonus to damage on your main hand attacks and 1/2 your str bonus to damage on all off hand attacks
You also add any enhancement bonus from magic weapons to the attack (to hit) and damage rolls so if you had 2 +1 Longswords you would add +1 to all of the above numbers
well i can see this is no longer an argument or clarification for Pathfinder so I am stopping now...I cannot argue the rules of "The world according to Ashiel" and I won't even try...those are the rules...I will say one last thing
Nothing at all. I've already said they don't stack. That doesn't mean they cease functioning. They have different effects.
I mean this line alone is enough that I don't HAVE to say anything but I will..."they don't stack" means that one does not work...they are similar effects....which mean by all definitions of the word "similar" that they are not different
I look forward to reading the CRB of "The world according to Ashiel" btw...will it have vampires? monkey people? Will it be based of Dark Souls so that people die everyone ten minutes or so until they learn better? I'm excited to play so get to writing!!!
And just to give some food for thought...the best GM I ever had was when I played 3rd Ed...whenever someone would bring something like this (or any argument to rules) to the table...his response is one I always remember when I'm trying to find out if something works or not...he says the following
"Don't ask me where in the rules it says you cannot do something, your job as the player is to show me in the rules where it says you CAN do it."
Following this usually makes it a lot easier when trying to figure out if your "loop hole" around rules works and is a good argument to min/maxer's that say that very thing "where does it say I can't do it?"