The Shining Kingdoms

Tuesday, July 30, 2019

This is it, Pathfinders—the conclusion of our world-spanning journey through the Age of Lost Omens! It’s only fitting, then, that we end in a region full of tried and true fantasy tropes, lands of elves, dwarves, knights in shining armor, and … guillotines?

Image of a landscape with two large mountain peaks in the background and the silhouette of buildings before them. A river flows in the foreground.

Illustration by Roman Roland Kuteynikov

Er, we’ll get back to those tall knives in a bit. Let’s start with those elves though, shall we? Kyonin, on the southeastern corner of Lake Encarthan in central Avistan, is one of the oldest nations in the Age of Lost Omens setting, predating even Earthfall over 10 millennia ago. But the elves of yore foresaw the disaster and fled through the mysterious Sovyrian Stone to a distant, alien refuge. When they returned to Golarion centuries later, they found their homeland overrun by the nacent demon lord, Treerazer, whom they still battle today. Among the many ancient tools at the elves’ disposal is a vast network of magical gates, called aiudara, that link Kyonin to elven populations in distant corners of the world, including in the Mwangi Expanse, the Crown of the World, and beyond.

Aiudara, elegant elven gates intertwined with nature.

Illustration by Fabio Gorla

Right next door we have the Five Kings Mountains, homeland of the dwarves. Upon arriving on Golarion’s surface at the end of their generations-long Quest for Sky millennia ago, this mountainous region was one of the first they populated. Since their founding, the five kingdoms that give the dwarven stronghold its name have waxed and waned in power, and internal conflict (including a recent turn toward the worship of Droskar) have led to a decline in the land. But after breaking free from Droskar’s influence, more traditional dwarven culture has been on the rise, and the worship of Torag and his kin are resurgent in the region. A people bound by tradition, the dwarves of the Five Kings Mountains have unearthed ancient ways as a result of this embrace of their history, including the resurgence of the shamanistic Rivethun throughout Avistan.

Rivethun, shamanistic dwarf with a large crystal in hand.

Illustration by Biagio d’Alessandro

To the west of the Five Kings Mountains lies the mercantile nation of Druma (most recently explored in the final First Edition Pathfinder Campaign Setting book, Druma, Profit and Prophecy). The influential Prophecies of Kalistrade permeate almost every aspect of Drumish society, most notably the pursuit of wealth and opulence. The Kalistocrats (as adherents to the strict code of conduct associated with the prophecies are called) are among the canniest merchants, investors, and speculators in the Age of Lost Omens setting, and their reach extends into markets across the world.

High Prophet Kelldor.

Illustration by Katerina Kirillova

To Druma’s south lies Andoran, the first true democracy in Avistan and Garund. Formerly part of Taldor, and then Cheliax, Andoran gained its independence in the People’s Revolt in the wake of the rise of House Thrune. Now free from the outdated constraints of nobility and monarchy, the fate of all Andorens is theirs to grasp. Andoran spreads its ideology of freedom and liberty to distant lands via its well trained and expertly equipped Eagle Knights, whose three branches—the infantry of the Golden Legion, the knights of the Steel Falcons (and their naval counterparts, the Gray Corsairs), and the secret agents of the Twilight Talons—work in tandem to oppose oppression, especially slavery, throughout the Inner Sea region. Members of this organization may find the magical epaulets presented in the chapter a nice addition to their character loadouts.

Eagle knight in a light blue jacket with gold epaulets, white pants, and knee-high black boots with a gold chain attached to the top. The right hand wields a long, engraved broad sword.

Illustration by Klaher Baklaher

Andoran isn’t the only nation to attempt to wrest itself free from the tyranny of nobility, though it remains the only one to do so peacefully. In neighboring Galt, a bloody revolution has gripped the nation for half a century as its people attempt to form a new government in the wake of political upheaval. Under the watchful eyes of the Gray Gardeners, who enforce the laws of the Revolutionary Council with their soul-trapping final blade, the people of Galt strive to establish their own nation free from bloodshed and oppression, though many feel that they simply traded the rule of an autocratic aristocracy for the domination of an autocratic Revolutionary Council. And yes, there are stats for a final blade included. What could go wrong?

Final blade, which looks similar to a fancy guillotine. A fully armored person stands next it, holding a long metal rod.

Illustration by Andrea Tentori Montalto

Last but far from least, is the nation of Taldor, among the first new nations on the Inner Sea to rise from the devastation of Earthfall. Over the millennia, Taldor expanded to include nearly all of Avistan, and most of the human nations from Cheliax to Brevoy have roots as former Taldan vassals. But Taldor has fallen far from these great heights, and centuries of ineffectual bureaucratic rule, hedonistic waste by the upper classes, and general bad luck have seen its territory shrink to a fraction of its former glory. Still, the people of Taldor are proud and resilient, and their culture is ascendant under the new rule of Grand Princess Eutropia, who took the throne just last year. A progressive empress open to new ways of governing, whose ambitions are tempered with moderation and a dedication to improving the lives of her people, Eutropia nevertheless has her political enemies who are either bitter at their defeat during the recent war for the crown or who see her new approach to rulership a threat to their wealth, prestige, or both. What trials may await the people of Taldor as they attempt to reclaim their proper place as most influential and best respected nation in the world?

A typical masquerade party.

Illustration by Ksenia Kozhevnikova

For players, this section of the Lost Omens World Guide presents the aforementioned Golden Legion epaulets and final blade (okay, so that one might be more for GMs), but also seven new backgrounds tied to the region, including final blade survivor, Kalistrade follower, and Rivethun adherent, as well as the Lion Blade archetype, which puts your character in the role of a secret agent of the Taldan throne who uses deception and disguise to your advantage.

The deceptive Lion Blade, in the process of using magic to change its appearance from a young person in military uniform to one in a flowing dance skirt.

Illustration by Katerina Kirillova

Because Thursday is bound to be a busy news day here at Paizo HQ, we’ll be taking one final look at the Tales of Lost Omens tomorrow, with one more piece by Liane Merciel. Next week, we’ll change the focus of our ongoing web fiction offerings to our first Starfinder fiction—a series of Iconic Encounters written by former Starfinder Creative Director James L. Sutter.

In the meantime, enjoy the launch of Pathfinder Second Edition in just two days, and keep an eye out for the Lost Omens World Guide, which comes out just a few short weeks from now! Adventure in the Age of Lost Omens awaits, are you ready?

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I've been loving these lore blog posts. I can't wait until Thursday!


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The list is complete!!

1) Absalom: Pathfinder Agent
2) Broken Lands: Aldori Duelist
3) Eye of Dread: Lastwall Sentry
4) Golden Road: Living Monolith
5) High Seas: Red Mantis Assassin
6) Impossible Lands: Student of Perfection
7) Mwangi Expanse: Magic Warrior
8) Old Cheliax: Hellknight Armiger
9) Saga Lands: Runescarred
10) Shining Kingdoms: Lion Blade

(Also, I was wrong! No Firebrands here. Interesting ...)

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Wait. Starfinder web fiction? Now I'm hyped!

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I like most of the hints sewn throughout this. I'm still a little confused by Galt's inclusion in this area, though.

Lion Blades are a good and interesting Archetype addition and I'm excited to see what they do.


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No mention of Firebrands, no real big lore changes, but however something catches my eye.

Survivor of the Final Blades. Color me *deeply* intrigued.

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The Firebrands will get their chance to shine in the Lost Omens Character Guide. :)


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VerBeeker wrote:
Survivor of the Final Blades. Color me *deeply* intrigued.

I'm really wondering if that one is more "they tried to cut off your head and it didn't take" or "they were going to cut off your head, but then they didn't."

Like "you were sentenced to be executed, but they faked it so now you work for them" is kind of a trope, but "I have incredible neck muscles" is funnier.

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Andoran isn’t the only nation to attempt to wrest itself free from the tyranny of nobility, though it remains the only one to do so peacefully.

Confirmation that Vidrian and Ravounel retain aristocratic classes? I suppose land reform was a dead letter too?

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zimmerwald1915 wrote:
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Andoran isn’t the only nation to attempt to wrest itself free from the tyranny of nobility, though it remains the only one to do so peacefully.
Confirmation that Vidrian and Ravounel retain aristocratic classes? I suppose land reform was a dead letter too?

Ravounel had a violent revolution. So did Vidrian from what we understand.

Now, debatably so did Andoran, but I think you're reading way too much into a single sentence in a blog post.

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Deadmanwalking wrote:

Ravounel had a violent revolution. So did Vidrian from what we understand.

Now, debatably so did Andoran

Nothing debatable about it, there were pitched battles in the countryside and street fights in the cities. But if that's the bar for peaceful, then at least Ravounel's meets it, and the only reason I can't say that Vidrian's doesn't is because it hasn't been detailed one way or the other.

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but I think you're reading way too much into a single sentence in a blog post.

What are these for, if not to read into?

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zimmerwald1915 wrote:
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Andoran isn’t the only nation to attempt to wrest itself free from the tyranny of nobility, though it remains the only one to do so peacefully.
Confirmation that Vidrian and Ravounel retain aristocratic classes? I suppose land reform was a dead letter too?

Bolded the 'to do so peacefully' in the original text for emphasis. Ravounel was hardly a peaceful revolution by any means; the Ravens violently overthrow the government of the city. Regardless of the fate of the aristocratic classes in Ravounel, the Ravens' revolution wouldn't be an exception to the quoted statement.

Edit: Ninja'd by a long time, forgot to refresh.

zimmerwald1915 wrote:
Deadmanwalking wrote:

Ravounel had a violent revolution. So did Vidrian from what we understand.

Now, debatably so did Andoran

Nothing debatable about it, there were pitched battles in the countryside and street fights in the cities. But if that's the bar for peaceful, then at least Ravounel's meets it, and the only reason I can't say that Vidrian's doesn't is because it hasn't been detailed one way or the other.

Given that Kintargo is one of 3 meaningful population centres in Ravounel controlled by the government of the state, I'd say it's on a different level. Slight spoilers for Hell's Rebels below:

Hell's Rebels Spoilers:

Kintargo had the city attacked by dragonfire, potentially many civilians slaughtered, and almost all the governing class of the city were killed in the revolution - hardly seems the same as what we know of Andoran's revolution.

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Arcaian wrote:
** spoiler omitted **

Hell's Rebels Spoilers:
The violent reprisals of the government were discounted when talking about Andoran, and they ought to be discounted when talking about Ravounel as well. As for the "governing class," my entire point is that it sounds like it remained in place. The government officials - not the governing class - that were presumed killed by the AP amounted to less than ten people. Meanwhile, "what we know of the Andoren revolution" was that it involved the breakup and redistribution of big estates and the real liquidation of the preexisting governing class (notwithstanding that their descendants continue to scheme for power today in a fairly pathetic manner).

And that's to say nothing of Vyre's oligarchy, which is entirely undisturbed.


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Beautiful art! This has been a great blog series overall and I can't wait for the Lost Omens World Guide. I'm intrigued to hear about these Starfinder stories, too.

As for the Andoran thing, I think the wording is vague enough that we can interpret that as meaning it's the only one in the Shining Kingdoms specifically to successfully free itself from tyrannical nobles without further conflict from within like Galt. I certainly hope this is the case, as Andoran's status as the idealized "good guy" nation has always annoyed me for reasons I'd rather not get into, lest I inadvertently start a long, tiring, and unnecessary debate.


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And is it just me, or does the guy with the white and gold outfit look strangely familiar? From something outside of Pathfinder, I mean. I can't quite place it...

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Darth Game Master wrote:
And is it just me, or does the guy with the white and gold outfit look strangely familiar? From something outside of Pathfinder, I mean. I can't quite place it...

The Kalistocrat by Ms Kirillova, you mean?


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Yes...you know, I think I might know who it's reminding me of but I could be very very wrong.

EDIT: Okay, pretty sure he reminds me of Richard Nixon. Now, why a Kalistocrat is modeled after him is the real question...unless it's somehow a coincidence.

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zimmerwald1915 wrote:
Arcaian wrote:
** spoiler omitted **

** spoiler omitted **

Hell's Rebels Spoilers:

Valid point on governmental reprisals and Vyre. Vyre is always a tricky one - it doesn't really seem like it's under the control of Cheliax in a hugely meaningful way even before Book 1, and definitely acts like an independent city-state in a lot of ways.

I think the discussion of violence here is complicated somewhat by the usage of the term - structural violence is so often ignored as 'real violence' in favour of the more noticeable violence. My presumption was their use of 'peaceful' meant 'no overtly violent revolution' as opposed to anything involving the structural violence inherent in redistribution of wealth. My knowledge of Andoran history is limited to the 2 books published on the area, so I certainly could be missing something, but it seems like the revolution in Andoran didn't involve the violent death of the leader of the state and their immediate subordinates. It might only be 10 people (though a very good deal more agents of the state were slain by the Ravens across the AP), and the actual ruling class could have escaped the revolution relatively unscathed (we'll see how the setting book discusses it), but I think that puts it in a more 'violent' box according to the commonly seen interpretations of revolutions.

P.S. Thanks for the interesting threads you've made over on the Hell's Rebels subforum - even if I don't agree with all your points, they're thought-provoking and make me consider how I'm running the AP more deeply.

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Darth Game Master wrote:

Yes...you know, I think I might know who it's reminding me of but I could be very very wrong.

EDIT: Okay, pretty sure he reminds me of Richard Nixon. Now, why a Kalistocrat is modeled after him is the real question...unless it's somehow a coincidence.

I don't see Nixon there, TBF. The Kalistocrat is craggy, but he's not jowly.

He does look familiar though.

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Arcaian wrote:
zimmerwald1915 wrote:
Arcaian wrote:
** spoiler omitted **

** spoiler omitted **

** spoiler omitted **

Hell's Rebels spoilers:
To add to the point about Vyre, I'd forgotten the Board of Governors as a constitutional and inviolable center of aristocratic power. There's no chance whatsoever of land reform. They probably got themselves compensated for the loss of their slaves too.

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I mean, our Hell's Rebels party was trying to take Barzillai alive. As he regenerates incredibly quickly when reduced to 0 HP, I think we might have done upwards of 10,000 damage just punching him in the head repeatedly until he goes back to sleep.

So it was an incredibly violent revolution, just with a significant amount of the violence directed at one guy whose blood was just everywhere.


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Darth Game Master wrote:

Yes...you know, I think I might know who it's reminding me of but I could be very very wrong.

EDIT: Okay, pretty sure he reminds me of Richard Nixon. Now, why a Kalistocrat is modeled after him is the real question...unless it's somehow a coincidence.

The resemblance is there to assure you that he's not a crook.

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Lovely final blog

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zimmerwald1915 wrote:
Darth Game Master wrote:

Yes...you know, I think I might know who it's reminding me of but I could be very very wrong.

EDIT: Okay, pretty sure he reminds me of Richard Nixon. Now, why a Kalistocrat is modeled after him is the real question...unless it's somehow a coincidence.

I don't see Nixon there, TBF. The Kalistocrat is craggy, but he's not jowly.

He does look familiar though.

He reminds me a bit of the late actor John Colicos.

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Niv Cel'on wrote:
Lovely final blog

What's final? We still have the vignette counterpart.

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VerBeeker wrote:

No mention of Firebrands, no real big lore changes, but however something catches my eye.

Survivor of the Final Blades. Color me *deeply* intrigued.

I'd say the new ruler of Taldor is a pretty big lore change


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I mean I knew about Eutropia, I would lay down my life once more for the Princess, what I meant was nothing seems to really have evolved or changed in the snippets shown of the other countries.

Druma is still a Plutocrats dream, Andoran continues the good fight against slavery, the Elves are Elving(No mention of the Lantern Bearers or the fall of the Winter Council) the Dwarves are Dwarving and Galt continues to pop off heads like champagne corks on New Year’s Eve.

Though that was also true for the Impossible Kingdoms snippet I suppose.

Not really a complaint just something I noted, I’m sure the actual book will have all the info I’m looking for and more.


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PossibleCabbage wrote:

I mean, our Hell's Rebels party was

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trying to take Barzillai alive. As he regenerates incredibly quickly when reduced to 0 HP, I think we might have done upwards of 10,000 damage just punching him in the head repeatedly until he goes back to sleep.

So it was an incredibly violent revolution, just with a significant amount of the violence directed at one guy whose blood was just everywhere.

Might want to spoiler this one

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VerBeeker wrote:
Druma is still a Plutocrats dream

Ever-flowing profits and no class struggle? A plutocrat's dream indeed. The one flaw is that some other country has the name "Galt."

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the Elves are Elving(No mention of the Lantern Bearers or the fall of the Winter Council)

Pretty sure this element is getting downplayed in favor of the struggle against Treerazer.


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I'm finding it interesting these archetypes based on regions and organizations... But I'm hopeful that they don't follow on Starfinder's steps. Those are nowhere near as interesting as what we got on PF1e.

In fact, I'm looking forward for future class archetypes for PF2e, one of the biggest strength of PF1e must be carried over to this new edition, but since so far every archetype has been for all classes, this leaves me a little worried. But it's probably because it's only the Core Rulebook. I hope.

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Lightning Raven wrote:

I'm finding it interesting these archetypes based on regions and organizations... But I'm hopeful that they don't follow on Starfinder's steps. Those are nowhere near as interesting as what we got on PF1e.

In fact, I'm looking forward for future class archetypes for PF2e, one of the biggest strength of PF1e must be carried over to this new edition, but since so far every archetype has been for all classes, this leaves me a little worried. But it's probably because it's only the Core Rulebook. I hope.

It was announced quite some time ago that the CRB would include no Class archetypes but would introduce the supporting rules describing those. And it does.


Wait, Andoran is the first true democracy in Avistan and Garund? But I thought Galt was founded before Andoran. While Galt is a tough place to live, no one can say it isn't a true democracy, right?

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Aenigma wrote:
Wait, Andoran is the first true democracy in Avistan and Garund? But I thought Galt was founded before Andoran. While Galt is a tough place to live, no one can say it isn't a true democracy, right?

Mob rule is not the same as Democracy.


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Also, i don't think the Revolutionary Council are elected positions.


xrayregime wrote:
PossibleCabbage wrote:

I mean, our Hell's Rebels party was

** spoiler omitted **

Might want to spoiler this one

Pretty sure at this point it's almost expected that all 1e Adventure Paths are supposed to be pre-spoiled for you before moving into 2e.


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I thought the Palatinates of Ustalav had done also attained some degree of popular rule at the local level, with at least one of them even doing it without much bloodshed.


I'm not sure anything you can infer by reading the solicitations for the AP is really a spoiler anyway.

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Deadmanwalking wrote:

I like most of the hints sewn throughout this. I'm still a little confused by Galt's inclusion in this area, though.

Most of these used to once be part of Taldor, also in the time when Taldor led the Shining Crusade against a suddenly very relevant individual.


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Hey, the Lion Blade is holding a buckler the right way! Color me favorably impressed.

Okay, so... only another 27 days before this hits the shelves... I think I'll MC into monk and go meditate under a waterfall ;)


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Squeakmaan wrote:
Also, i don't think the Revolutionary Council are elected positions.

Sacre Bleu! It is well known that the Revolutionary Council rules with the joyous consent of ALL citizens of Galt, comrade!

Your comment has been flagged for seditious content and evidence of counter-Revolutionary thought.

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Wandering Wastrel wrote:
Squeakmaan wrote:
Also, i don't think the Revolutionary Council are elected positions.

Sacre Bleu! It is well known that the Revolutionary Council rules with the joyous consent of ALL citizens of Galt, comrade!

Your comment has been flagged for seditious content and evidence of counter-Revolutionary thought.

You, I like you.

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NightTrace wrote:
Wandering Wastrel wrote:
Squeakmaan wrote:
Also, i don't think the Revolutionary Council are elected positions.

Sacre Bleu! It is well known that the Revolutionary Council rules with the joyous consent of ALL citizens of Galt, comrade!

Your comment has been flagged for seditious content and evidence of counter-Revolutionary thought.

You, I like you.

You should name an NPC after them


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Okay, this blog is amazing, but I gotta say: STARFINDER ICONIC ENCOUNTERS BY JAMES FREAKING SUTTER? So psyched. Been super waiting for this. Are these the new iconics from the Character Operations Manual, or the old Sunrise Maiden crew with Navasi, Obozaya, Keskodai and the rest? Super happy to see you doing what you love Sutter - your Pathfinder books were all the stuff of legend.


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Starfinder fiction coming up?! YEEEESS!! :D

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Long live Grand Princess (not Empress?) Eutropia! May she Make Taldor Great Again!

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Matthew Morris wrote:
Long live Grand Princess (not Empress?) Eutropia! May she Make Taldor Great Again!

The rulers of Taldor always styled themselves "Grand Princes," which I know as a very old Russian title but like so much Russian they probably got it from Byzantium, which is at least a major inspiration for Taldor.

"Empress" would be an entirely new title, and while it might be a project of Eutropia's to get it at some point, it's been fewer than five years since she had to fight a civil war to get the one she has.


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Suddenly, I want to hear about The Shinning Kingdoms . . . .

Edit: I guess that would be Galt.

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Wandering Wastrel wrote:
Squeakmaan wrote:
Also, i don't think the Revolutionary Council are elected positions.

Sacre Bleu! It is well known that the Revolutionary Council rules with the joyous consent of ALL citizens of Galt, comrade!

Your comment has been flagged for seditious content and evidence of counter-Revolutionary thought.

*starts planting Leshy black ops squad*


So Lion blades as an early entry archetype means I can look to convert Library of the Lion with competent opponents! And seemingly of any class (not that they need to follow class rules anymore but the archetype will give inspiration for powers and such)


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VerBeeker wrote:

I mean I knew about Eutropia, I would lay down my life once more for the Princess, what I meant was nothing seems to really have evolved or changed in the snippets shown of the other countries.

Druma is still a Plutocrats dream, Andoran continues the good fight against slavery, the Elves are Elving(No mention of the Lantern Bearers or the fall of the Winter Council) the Dwarves are Dwarving and Galt continues to pop off heads like champagne corks on New Year’s Eve.

Well...

Druma was basically just... there for the entirety of first edition.
Andoran was always a place to be from, rather than a place to adventure in, barring some early Darkmoon Vale stuff.
Kyonin last showed up as a major place to do stuff waaaaaaaaaaaaay back in Second Darkness.
The Five Kings Mountains didn't even make it into the 3.5 version of the campaign setting as a discrete entity. :P
Galt... has, so as I know, never been used in anything where dice hit the table.

So... why handwave changes when there are still (in theory) stories to be told there?

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UnArcaneElection wrote:

I thought the Palatinates of Ustalav had done also attained some degree of popular rule at the local level, with at least one of them even doing it without much bloodshed.

How popular the Palantine Councils of the three counties are hasn't really been spelled out. Carrion Crown #1 and 3 don't get into it all. Carrion Crown #2 spends a lot of time in Lepidstadt, but doesn't shed much light on the county government beyond it's criminal justice system and vague hints from Judge Darimor about the Palantine Eye. It feels to me that the area replaced aristocrats with oligarchs.

I don't have Rule of Fear, though, so this is just my read on the Palantines.

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