Meet the Iconics: Navasi

Monday, May 1, 2017

The countdown to Starfinder has officially begun, and to kick us off, we're highlighting the iconic characters and core classes that appear throughout the pages and covers the Starfinder line. Today we meet Navasi, the iconic envoy!

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Born into a prominent family on Absalom Station, the envoy who calls herself Navasi spent much of her childhood avoiding her parents in their "sky-villa," as they called their sprawling, six-story home in the Nyori Palisades. Navasi's mother had designs on her canny-but-headstrong daughter inheriting the family's business. Her father had visions of a queenly young woman sitting in silk among the station's most prominent socialites.

Navasi wanted neither. A quip on her lips, she eschewed glitzy playdates and family soirees in favor of zipping through Absalom Station's streets with her best friends, the children of the household employees. She'd take the rush of riding a screaming hovercycle over the pompous sniggering of the wealthy any day of the week.

As she befriended more and more stationers from less-privileged walks of life, Navasi's irritation with her parents and their deliberate aloofness from the rest of society turned into outright disgust. The inequities of Absalom Station, where the rich lived in fortified enclaves and the poor lived in little more than metal boxes, pained her. Simply giving away her pocket money didn't seem like enough. She began to dream of a fairy-tale life in which she could steal the affluent's unearned wealth and give it to those truly in need, and idolized the Free Captains of the Diaspora—pirates living by their own rules. Navasi could only imagine the fun she'd have with such freedom—and the good she'd do, of course.

On the eve of her eighteenth birthday, Navasi sat in her plush quarters, staring at the gold-fibered holo-gown that was to be her debut dress. Two choices stood before her. She could don that false uniform, attend the gala, and accept her mother's gift of an executive position in the family company. Or she could leave.

It took less than an hour for Navasi to slip out of the manor and stow away onto a ship bound for the Diaspora.

Navasi arrived on Broken Rock with a pocketful of stolen credsticks and a gleam in her eye. She quickly signed up as a "procurement specialist" with a contracting firm called the Sixth Finger—little more than a starfaring thieves' guild—ready to use her new position to steal from exploitative corporations and make herself a hero to those in need.

The reality of life in a pirate enclave hit her like a meteorite. Having quickly blown through her money, and too stubborn to return home in shame, Navasi found she no longer had a choice in which jobs she took. Under the guildrunners' threats, she roughed up innocents, stole from the less fortunate, and worse. Though she never completely lost her egalitarian beliefs, she hardly recognized the naïve idealist she'd once been. A few years in the streets showed her how much of her former life she'd taken for granted, and taught her that if she wanted to take care of others, she first needed to take care of herself. That, at least, she was good at, and she quickly gained a reputation in the gang as the best fast-talker and facewoman around, spinning bold plans and quick wits into fat paydays.

Now a jaded young woman, Navasi found that the wealth from her scores brought little joy without friends to share it with, and she took comfort in the hardscrabble survivalists and secretly softhearted rogues she recruited to her crews. Yet it was in one particular woman that Navasi truly found herself again. Purple-haired and tattooed, with eyes like blue supergiants, the newcomer was outspoken against those in power. She bucked the pirates' authority and operated alone, pulling the sorts of righteous jobs Navasi had once dreamed of. She was the bravest, most exciting woman Navasi had ever met, and despite Navasi's continuing allegiance to the Sixth Finger, the two quickly became inseparable.

That all came crashing down the day the Sixth Finger arranged to knock over a medship full of supplies bound for Absalom Station. To the gang's leaders, the ship's mission—aiding refugees of a wartorn star system—was inconsequential compared to the valuable drugs in its cargo bays. Navasi's objections were overruled.

It was the final straw. Together, Navasi and her partner formulated a plan, alerting the medship to the imminent heist and carefully sabotaging the fighters the gang had designated for the assault. It all might have gone unnoticed, had the gang's resident technomancer not decided to check the security cams one final time. In the ensuing ambush, Navasi and her partner were pinned down, their backs to the sole spaceworthy ship—a single-seat fighter with only enough life support for one of them. Unwilling to leave her companion, Navasi prepared for them to go out in a blaze of glory—only to have her partner shove her into the cockpit and slam the canopy. As Navasi scrabbled with the latch, the other woman winked, pulled the pins on her grenades, and sprinted straight at their ambushers.

The wealthy scion of Absalom Station died that day, as did the pirate she'd become. As she made her way back to Absalom Station with the medship, knowing that neither the Sixth Finger nor her spurned family would ever stop looking for her, she forsook both of her previous incarnations. Abandoning her old identity, she took the name of her fallen love—Navasi—and swore that henceforth she'd carry on the fight they'd started together, only stealing from those who deserved it, putting her finger in the eye of anyone who thrived on exploitation, regardless of which side of the law they were on. Knowing she'd need a new appearance as well, she continued borrowing from her partner, dyeing her jet-black hair purple and adding a single blue contact. Yet when she considered mimicking the original Navasi's tattoos, she was shocked to learn that they were symbols of Weydan, the god of discovery and equality, famous for taking mortal form. Though her partner had never spoken of religion, Navasi took it as a sign, and even holds out some hope that perhaps her companion might have been more than she seemed, though she recognizes that such thoughts are probably just a manifestation of her grief.

Today, Navasi has built a reputation—perhaps more than is truly wise for a woman with a price on her head—as a talented freelance captain, putting together crews for adventures ranging from planetary scouting and private security to her old talent for "procurement," though she's careful about what sorts of jobs she and her friends take on. Navasi still believes in freedom for all, spreading the wealth, and taking plutocrats down a peg—but she also knows the value of earning credits, and takes pride in the ability to take care of herself and her crew (though she still has a sometimes inconvenient tendency to empty her pockets for those in need). As a scoundrel, a fast-talker, and a brilliant negotiator, Navasi is happiest when the chips are down and lives hang in the balance, as that's when you truly know who your friends are. Above all, she knows to always look beneath the surface, for like Navasi herself, nothing is ever quite what it seems.

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So what does everyone think about the new announced god, Weydan, god of discovery and equality?


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It's true, Navasi wasn't explicitly confirmed gay anywhere I saw - I guess we can read into Navasi's story what we want. The story seemed to me to read a little bit like a fairy tale, and a romance popped out to me from Amanda's words. Although I'm mostly heterosexual myself, I've been involved in my local Pride club long enough to know how much characters like this can affect people who daily have to put up with prejudice and mistrust from people all around them, especially here in more religious-centric parts of Texas (Don't get me wrong, we've got a lot of awesome people down here too - but seriously; I've actually witnessed a kid getting pelted with rocks for having lesbian parents. Not. Cool. Bro.). Seriously, even if gay characters are redundant - and I strongly disagree with the implications of this observation, personally - sometimes these things make a difference, to be told again and again that you aren't alone, that there are people who respect you and want to see you succeed, and cherish this aspect of your identity other people have tried to make you hate. Characters like Navasi have made a world of difference in my friends' lives, and they've made a world of difference in mine. So, for my part, I'm really grateful Paizo's worked so hard to promote visions of diverse and respectful families of characters. It kind of represents my own dreams I'm fighting for.

I relate to characters more when they have distinct and concrete identities. Make them feel like a real person. My two cents for what they're worth.

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So what does everyone think about the new announced god, Weydan, god of discovery and equality?

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Archmage Variel wrote:
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I'm calling it now. Desna's news feed is just a string of inspirational memes.

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So hey, what does everyone think Navasi's leadership style would be as a captain? The last paragraph makes me think she's more of a nicer leader rather than a demanding or intimidating one, focusing on Diplomacy rather than Intimidate, and her principles might cause her to think of herself less as "the boss" than as the facilitator who brought together a particular specialist crew, so more like a first among equals. What do you think?


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What I'm about to point out, shouldn't be seen as either an indorsement or an condemnation of a particular view point, but more as a commentary on how something, like this backstory, that actually can appeal to both view points.
When I read the backstory, there isn't anything in it, that overtly speaks to the sexuality of Navasi. It clearly states that she considered herself inseparable from this woman (the original navasi), but what does that mean? are we talking lesbians?, platonic love? good friends? it actually doesn't explicitly say what the relationship was between the two, which in my opinion is good thing. Because it leaves room for every player to project, some of what they would like to see on to character, so that every player of every background can feel some part of them being represented in the setting.
Said in another way, she is a person that's enough of a blank slate that people can mirror some of themselves, their backgrounds and relationships in her, while not being so much a blank slate that she seems unfinished or disjointed.

Edit: Well Amanda H. K. said what I was trying to say, just more coherently.

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Like Pathfinder, Starfinder is a place where people of all backgrounds and perspectives exist and thrive, and I strive as a writer to create stories in which all readers can see parts of themselves reflected in our heroes' backgrounds.


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Mark Seifter wrote:
So hey, what does everyone think Navasi's leadership style would be as a captain? The last paragraph makes me think she's more of a nicer leader rather than a demanding or intimidating one, focusing on Diplomacy rather than Intimidate, and her principles might cause her to think of herself less as "the boss" than as the facilitator who brought together a particular specialist crew, so more like a first among equals. What do you think?

I imagined sort of a chaotic, lead by example, pirate captain type.

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Archmage Variel wrote:
Mark Seifter wrote:
So hey, what does everyone think Navasi's leadership style would be as a captain? The last paragraph makes me think she's more of a nicer leader rather than a demanding or intimidating one, focusing on Diplomacy rather than Intimidate, and her principles might cause her to think of herself less as "the boss" than as the facilitator who brought together a particular specialist crew, so more like a first among equals. What do you think?
I imagined sort of a chaotic, lead by example, pirate captain type.

*nods*

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Mark Seifter wrote:
So hey, what does everyone think Navasi's leadership style would be as a captain? The last paragraph makes me think she's more of a nicer leader rather than a demanding or intimidating one, focusing on Diplomacy rather than Intimidate, and her principles might cause her to think of herself less as "the boss" than as the facilitator who brought together a particular specialist crew, so more like a first among equals. What do you think?

I think she probably views having to give orders in itself as something of a failure on her part - if she'd hired the right people, they'd already be doing what needed doing without her having to say anything. Inasmuch as she does have to tell people what to do, I really can't see her as a martinet; "first among equals" seems like it would fit her precisely.

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What I'm about to point out, shouldn't be seen as either an indorsement or an condemnation of a particular view point, but more as a commentary on how something, like this backstory, that actually can appeal to both view points.

When I read the backstory, there isn't anything in it, that overtly speaks to the sexuality of Navasi. It clearly states that she considered herself inseparable from this woman (the original navasi), but what does that mean? are we talking lesbians?, platonic love? good friends? it actually doesn't explicitly say what the relationship was between the two, which in my opinion is good thing. Because it leaves room for every player to project, some of what they would like to see on to character, so that every player of every background can feel some part of them being represented in the setting.
Said in another way, she is a person that's enough of a blank slate that people can mirror some of themselves, their backgrounds and relationships in her, while not being so much a blank slate that she seems unfinished or disjointed.

This! this is apparently what I am struggling to say!

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Mark Seifter wrote:
So hey, what does everyone think Navasi's leadership style would be as a captain? The last paragraph makes me think she's more of a nicer leader rather than a demanding or intimidating one, focusing on Diplomacy rather than Intimidate, and her principles might cause her to think of herself less as "the boss" than as the facilitator who brought together a particular specialist crew, so more like a first among equals. What do you think?

Very much in the Peter Quill/Star Lord style of being a bit of a goof, trusting her team to do what they do best or just adapting well when they do whatever they were going to do anyway.

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But, again, it's important to explicitly say it some times. Minorities can project themselves onto anyone but to feel at home, comfortable, accepted, requires some explicitness. And maybe that means some people don't like that Iconic. That's fine too. Not everyone is going to love every Iconic character's backstory. But representation is important and it would be great if we respected that ideal for people who almost never get to see it in their hobbies and might be afraid to come out at their tables amongst their best friends. That was me in high school and college, so I know this all too well.

And that's really all I'm going to say on this. Take it as you will.

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Shisumo wrote:
Mark Seifter wrote:
So hey, what does everyone think Navasi's leadership style would be as a captain? The last paragraph makes me think she's more of a nicer leader rather than a demanding or intimidating one, focusing on Diplomacy rather than Intimidate, and her principles might cause her to think of herself less as "the boss" than as the facilitator who brought together a particular specialist crew, so more like a first among equals. What do you think?
I think she probably views having to give orders in itself as something of a failure on her part - if she'd hired the right people, they'd already be doing what needed doing without her having to say anything. Inasmuch as she does have to tell people what to do, I really can't see her as a martinet; "first among equals" seems like it would fit her precisely.

I think that's right. That's another really clever thing I hadn't thought of when I first read the blog but that Amanda sneaked in there: People are going to be looking for guidance/ a role model on how to have one of the PCs be the captain without being bossy or controlling the other PCs choices, and Amanda has provided a great example of just that with the captain iconic (the natural place for new players to look for that example).


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Greetings.

Navasi mentioned something about Vesk and a job?

Looking even more forwards to this System becoming a reality...

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To say it again, because apparently we have to have this conversation every time we present a character who is queer....

In fiction, people can and do project themselves into unfamiliar roles all the time. But minorities are asked to do it for nearly all mainstream portrayals rather than simply getting to see themselves reflected in a heroic context like straight white guys get to see constantly. We're told to make do with allusions and implications and suggestion, but rarely presented with the overt. We are always asked to identify in a way that is quiet and hidden and in the shadows and doesn't make waves. We are told our identities, which many of us fight hard because of and even die for, aren't as important as yet another mainstream portrayal.

So yes, specificity is incredibly important in regards to minority representation. And if makes for a more dynamic world if characters are forced to hide major character traits from the reader.

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Look guys I never ever intended to offend. I wanted to know why and some of you have taken the time to explain that. I get it now. I honestly don't care what your religion skin color or anything else is. I am not great at expressing myself, I think we've proved that tonight. To those offended I AM TRUELY SORRY. It was not my intent. My honest feeling is that if someone were dilibeartely offering up a minority character just to appeal to me it would be more offensive, I would assume I can make that character I want to play without having to have that explained to me. Again if offense was taken it was not intended.

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I consider the bar set quite high... which actually makes me kinda nervous. ;)

Same here!


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Mine all mine...don't touch wrote:
Look guys I never ever intended to offend. I wanted to know why and some of you have taken the time to explain that. I get it now. I honestly don't care what your religion skin color or anything else is. I am not great at expressing myself, I think we've proved that tonight. To those offended I AM TRUELY SORRY. It was not my intent. My honest feeling is that if someone were dilibeartely offering up a minority character just to appeal to me it would be more offensive, I would assume I can make that character I want to play without having to have that explained to me. Again if offense was taken it was not intended.

I don't think anyone was offended, and it seemed to me you had an honest question. Honestly, were I to be working for Paizo, I think I'd be proud of moments like these. What is roleplaying if not to spark deep questions with simple games and dialogue? I'd probably agree with you on the matter of forced inclusion - making a character just to be gay comes across a little bit superficial. The genuine quality of Navasi's character speaks anything but quota-fulfilling to me; in fact, we both agreed we had to read into Navasi's story to interpret such an identity. Personally, I think Navasi reads very much as a real person, the full package, not a token - and that's the strongest statement you can make. Indeed, I'm pleased Navasi's character has already sparked up constructive dialogues like these! I think you did a good thing asking questions and seeking out perspective. Top form, you! (might want to make a different thread for it next time, though)

So - anyone have any thoughts on Weydan being a Lashunta goddess? Because that's what I'm putting my creds on.


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tries to sound out Weydan, and it keeps sounding 'Whedon' to him. Does FreeholdDM know?

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Is orientation important to play?

It is if it is directly tied to a character's motivations, as is the case for Navasi. If she had a "friend" that she just sort of left at Absalom Station when she was deciding what would define her as a person, then maybe the fact that she had a "friend" wasn't vital to who she is. But in this case, she took the name, the appearance, and the worldview of her "friend." Because this other character had a huge impact on Navasi (the iconic), (the original) Navasi is totally relevant to the iconic and her personality. If she had been "friends" with a dude, I am 100% positive no one would question whether that relationship was vital to her as a character.

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Let people choose.

How wonderful the world would be if we could just choose to ignore people who were different than us. Or if people could just choose not to be who they are because it might cramp someone else's style.

You're free to "choose" whatever you want for characters in your game, but Navasi's backstory is canon now, so there's not much of a choice left for anyone to make. Take it or leave it.

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Look guys I never ever intended to offend. I wanted to know why and some of you have taken the time to explain that. I get it now. I honestly don't care what your religion skin color or anything else is. I am not great at expressing myself, I think we've proved that tonight. To those offended I AM TRUELY SORRY. It was not my intent. My honest feeling is that if someone were dilibeartely offering up a minority character just to appeal to me it would be more offensive, I would assume I can make that character I want to play without having to have that explained to me. Again if offense was taken it was not intended.

Consider this: The representation you don't feel is very important is also incredibly common for you. there's no dearth of straight protagonists in any western media. No shortage of cisgender protagonists. Plenty of men. Tons of white people. All being the protagonist. That representation is so considered to be the "default" that things that don't have those are usually considered niche. Luke Cage is a "black" show. Batgirl is a "girls" comic.

A lot of us don't ever see ourselves reflected as protagonists, so much so that we'll jump on any vagueness and pretend it's representation just so we don't feel left out. I've frequently said that as a child, all through high school, and into college, literally the only overt representation I saw of myself was a pink dinosaur. When some media comes along that openly and happily paints a minority trait on a protagonist and you're not accustomed to seeing yourself openly and happily represented, it feels amazing and validating and loving. It's the emotional equivalent of this.

So yes, representation is hugely important.


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Mine all mine...don't touch wrote:
Look guys I never ever intended to offend. I wanted to know why and some of you have taken the time to explain that. I get it now. I honestly don't care what your religion skin color or anything else is. I am not great at expressing myself, I think we've proved that tonight. To those offended I AM TRUELY SORRY. It was not my intent. My honest feeling is that if someone were dilibeartely offering up a minority character just to appeal to me it would be more offensive, I would assume I can make that character I want to play without having to have that explained to me. Again if offense was taken it was not intended.

I don't think anyone was offended, and it seemed to me you had an honest question. Honestly, were I to work for Paizo, I think I'd be proud of moments like these. What is roleplaying if not to spark deep questions with simple games and dialogue? I'd probably agree with you on the matter of forced inclusion - making a character just to be gay comes across a little bit superficial. The fluidity and genuine quality of Navasi's character speaks of more natural inclusion to me; in fact, we both agreed we had to read into Navasi's story to interpret such an identity! Indeed, I'm pleased Navasi's character has already sparked up constructive dialogues like these! I think you did a good thing asking questions and seeking out perspective. Top form, you!

So - anyone have any thoughts on Weydan being a Lashunta goddess? Because that's what I'm putting my creds on.

I'd be surprised if any god in Starfinder identified with patronage of a single race. Did the gap only effect knowledge of golarion or overall knowledge, because if space travel was happening by the time the gap occurred, it may be hard to trace a deity's original history of worship.


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Archmage Variel wrote:
Opsylum wrote:
So - anyone have any thoughts on Weydan being a Lashunta goddess? Because that's what I'm putting my creds on.
I'd be surprised if any god in Starfinder identified with patronage of a single race. Did the gap only effect knowledge of golarion or overall knowledge, because if space travel was happening by the time the gap occurred, it may be hard to trace a deity's original history of worship.

True. I should have clarified with native Lashunta goddess. And yeah, I think the gap was implied to affect everyone, including other worlds. I kind of figure, the way the gap was explained, acolytes of Weydan would probably still remember they worshipped Weydan, and if the religion was practiced most prominently on Castrovel, it could be inferred Weydan's religion originated from there. Actually I kind of figured the worship of a native god would be one of the more common things to hold a culture together that had lost much of its history and identity - not to say that Weydan would belong to any specific culture.

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Another way of looking at it:

Presuming you can breathe normally, oxygen doesn't seem that important to you on a day-to-day basis. I mean, you know it's good, but it's not something you ever have to think about. And if, say, a restaurant advertised "We have oxygen tubes," that would seem like a weird-ass marketing gimmick.

But to me, as an asthmatic, oxygen is sometimes very hard to come by, and there are times I can't get it without taking extra measures or going out of my way. Now I might look at that restaurant, offering oxygen so I can enjoy a meal without worrying about my breathing, and think "hot damn!" And my family and friends, who've seen me have an asthma attack, might look at that and say "wow, that's pretty thoughtful," and so while oxygen tubes aren't personally aimed at them, they recognize that the restaurant is trying to make some space for asthmatics in a way you never see.

The restaurant isn't necessarily offering oxygen tubes because they think it's the next great marketing gimmick. They might never really use them. Maybe the owner is just asthmatic too, and offering something they always needed to others. But having a place where oxygen isn't a challenge to get, for people who sometimes can't breath, feels huge.

It's all in how common something is to you.


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What interests me about the Gap, since it has been brought up, is that it hit *all of Reality*, from what I've seen printed on it.

So not just the Golarion system, but the Vesk System, and *every other system, every other Plane, everything*.

This is the sort of epic power level that should terrify even powerful deities...

EDIT: Back to the topic of the thread, though...

Navasi, condolences on the loss, and hopefully in some future time/space/plane the two of you may reunite as befits the beliefs and/or cultural expectations of both you and your partner.


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I had read the above as the two women being friends without having to read in gay. Let people choose.

That's how I read it.

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ive got it. All I can do is apologize. I swear to you I'm not intentionally a jerk I just didn't get it. I don't read all these pages so I was not aware we'd been over this ground. Your point is well taken. I'm sorry.

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Thank you for apologizing <3

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ive got it. All I can do is apologize. I swear to you I'm not intentionally a jerk I just didn't get it. I don't read all these pages so I was not aware we'd been over this ground. Your point is well taken. I'm sorry.

You learned something today! And hopefully, because you asked, some other people did, too. I hope you take the responses you've garnered in the best possible light and agree to agree that Navasi is pretty awesome.

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Mine all mine...don't touch wrote:
I had read the above as the two women being friends without having to read in gay. Let people choose.
That's how I read it.

Okay, but ask yourself why you feel the need choose a world without minorities.

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Hrothdane wrote:
Thank you for apologizing <3

I sometimes think I should just keep my mouth shut. Tonight is one of those nights. This hobby is what keeps me sane and I hate knowing that I embarrassed myself tonight in front of my peers.

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EltonJ wrote:
Mine all mine...don't touch wrote:
I had read the above as the two women being friends without having to read in gay. Let people choose.
That's how I read it.
Okay, but ask yourself why you feel the need choose a world without minorities.

I didn't choose to see a world without minority's, I have a friend I'd like to think I'd do just about anything for, and we're straight. i didn't see heroic sacrifice as been about sexual orientations. I love my friends and I'd do anything for them,


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Mine all mine...don't touch wrote:
I had read the above as the two women being friends without having to read in gay.
That's how I read it.

I didn't clue in either. Maybe it could have been made more obvious, like a brief kiss or something?

Edit: No issue beyond clarity for me.

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ive got it. All I can do is apologize. I swear to you I'm not intentionally a jerk I just didn't get it. I don't read all these pages so I was not aware we'd been over this ground. Your point is well taken. I'm sorry.
You learned something today! And hopefully, because you asked, some other people did, too. I hope you take the responses you've garnered in the best possible light and agree to agree that Navasi is pretty awesome.

Oh I've preordered the entire line I'm hooked.


I'm not using any of the Iconics, though. My first character is going to be a human technomancer.


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EltonJ wrote:
Mine all mine...don't touch wrote:
I had read the above as the two women being friends without having to read in gay. Let people choose.
That's how I read it.
I didn't clue in either. Maybe it could have been made more obvious, like a brief kiss or something?

But, if you kiss a deity, does your face melt like seeing the arc of the covenant?

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Alright I also don't get <3 what does that mean?


Mine all mine...don't touch wrote:
Alright I also don't get <3 what does that mean?

That would be a heart.

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Oh jeez.... Technology and I are not buddies isee it now I read it as less than three. Which made zero sense.


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So, I am 100 percent for diversity. I do have an issue with saying somehow people should feel guilty due to representation in comics. Since you mentioned Luke Cage he was created by Archie Goodwin, George Tuska, and John Romita White Guys as you put it. Now you could say, and I would agree that the gaming industry for quite some time has been dominated by White Guys. As diversity grows I would hope and encourage more diverse characters in Comics and games. I would also encourage more diversity in game development. The first thing I look for in a game is good system rather than was the author a man or women or what race they are. Or what sexual orientation they are.

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I would like to once again thank Paizo for their continue efforts to provide a world where people like me can exist. I first learned about Shardra and became little bit more than an "obsessed fan," then I learned about many of the other amazing Iconics and characters various adventure paths, or how the dateable npcs in jade Reagent are bisexual. Then of course there are the deities like Arshea.

And now you continue to do so in Starfinder with Navasi, Iseph, and hopfully more in the future.
You create a fantasy world where people like me cane exist but where we can be heros. Thank you


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Mine all mine...don't touch wrote:
I had read the above as the two women being friends without having to read in gay. Let people choose.
That's how I read it.
I didn't clue in either. Maybe it could have been made more obvious, like a brief kiss or something?
But, if you kiss a deity, does your face melt like seeing the arc of the covenant?

Ah now I didn't think of that. If it's a deity.


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I think as the Iconic character, Navasi's background is fantastic! Yes, it follows a somewhat cliche story, but again she is the iconic PC so I feel that it fits perfectly. Also, in this day and age of information overload, it is VERY difficult to have a truly "unique" story for anything.

In regards to the story, I really like how she took on her deceased friend/lover/whatever's identity. In my opinion that is a very subtle way of bringing to light Navasi's thoughts of self-identity. She is willing to basically cast aside her very identity not simply to just avoid being captured, but to honor this person that held such an important place in her heart.


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I liked the setting details nested in the write up more than the character herself, as others have said she is a mix up of common background elements and it works but it isnt gripping without something a lot more detailed to flesh out her uniqueness. But it works extremely well as far as setting the tone for Starfinder and is a great flavor write up. I would probably read a novel about her though, something to give her enough space to really develop. And as much as i like the setting details and the character picture, i am still bothered by her right hand, maybe the angle or something but it always looks way to small... I also wonder now if that holstered pistol of hers is from the previous Navasi since its so unique compared to the other weapons we've seen. Perhaps a divinely powered weapon?


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Torbyne wrote:
I also wonder now if that holstered pistol of hers is from the previous Navasi since its so unique compared to the other weapons we've seen. Perhaps a divinely powered weapon?

"This here is a GOD Gun. Don't make me draw it." ???


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So hey, what does everyone think Navasi's leadership style would be as a captain? The last paragraph makes me think she's more of a nicer leader rather than a demanding or intimidating one, focusing on Diplomacy rather than Intimidate, and her principles might cause her to think of herself less as "the boss" than as the facilitator who brought together a particular specialist crew, so more like a first among equals. What do you think?

Well... she is said to be a very successful captain so i would disagree with you on her leadership qualities? Off duty or outside of the bridge she might be diplomatic and think of herself as just an equal among the crew, as a captain specifically though i imagine she demands immediate obedience to her orders. If she says reroute power to the engines even if that drains the shields than it better happen, the Sixth Finger Assualt Boarding Craft sure wouldnt mind you delaying a few minutes to explain why you need to sacrifice shields for speed but then she wouldnt be a captain, or own a ship, for very long. Captains need to have clear chains of command and everyone in the crew should know to obey because under fire is not the time to stand up and debate amongst equals about something the good idea fairy just dropped off in your lap.

Star Trek does a bad job of that i think and spreads the idea around that there is all the time in the world to explain the how and why of things in an emergency, for once i think Star Wars did it better; from Imperial Officers firing off orders and not bothering to make sure they will be followed to Admiral Raddus coming up with a really hair brained idea and no one questioning him, that is how captaining is done. ;)


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Does anyone else think it's a little weird that Navasi kinda stole the identity of her dead lover? When the real Navasi died, she copied her hair, personality, name, and one eye.

I know everyone comes to grieve in their own way, but is that what's going on, or is this assumption of identity normal on Absalom Station?

If it isn't normal, would "Navasi" begin to acquire a collection of fallen companions traits? Sort of totemic-like? If so, will she be calling on her different "personalities" for different situations, like if she needs to be in charge and charismatic, then she's Navasi. If she needs to be in the gunner's seat during ship combat (and something unfortunate has happened to Obozaya) then she's sees herself as a vesk with knowledge of heavy weapons.

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