
Byron Vhiski |

I am here.

Zaraleva |

It looks like GM Wulfson hasn't posted to any of the four games he's running in 12 days and he didn't say anything about a vacation in any of them. I hope he's ok. I thought he was doing a great job.
If we don't hear anything tomorrow (later today) I will post another ad looking for a GM. I also can open the pdf and run the final encounter for you guys if necessary. Zaraleva could just do the healing.

Byron Vhiski |

Thanks!

Zaraleva |

Ok, I found the AP deep in my hard drive and spoilered all of the secrets of Brinewall. <sigh> The monster of Pazuzu is unaware of the silenced party until the door opens and the first round of readied attacks go off, so it is flat-footed until its initiative of the first (non-surprise) round.
So let's get this slaughter started. May you all roll many confirmed crits.

Winsome Briskalberd |

Any chance Winsome can move closer before his attack, so that he is within the first range increment? I don't see a map anywhere.
Also, since unholy blight has verbal components, I'm guessing it isn't actually a spell but a spell-like ability? There goes that plan. :)
Also also, I feel like coin shot coins should be considered magic for the purposes of damage reduction, since they do extra damage based on Winsome's caster level.

Phantom Genius |

I kept using the last map that Wulf put up. There's a drop-off before you could move any closer and we all went in a surprise round, so we only got one action anyway.
You are 100% correct that it's a spell-like.
Sorry, but I don't read coin shot that way. Here's a copy & paste.
Silver coins deal 1d6 points of damage and count as silver for the purpose of overcoming damage reduction. Gold coins deal 1d8 points of damage and count as masterwork weapons. Platinum coins deal 1d10 points of damage, count as masterwork weapons, and are treated as adamantine weapons for the purposes of overcoming damage reduction and bypassing hardness.

Winsome Briskalberd |

Sorry, but I don't read coin shot that way. Here's a copy & paste.
Silver coins deal 1d6 points of damage and count as silver for the purpose of overcoming damage reduction. Gold coins deal 1d8 points of damage and count as masterwork weapons. Platinum coins deal 1d10 points of damage, count as masterwork weapons, and are treated as adamantine weapons for the purposes of overcoming damage reduction and bypassing hardness.
You left off the last sentence!
"All coin bullets deal an additional 1 point of damage per 2 caster levels (to a maximum of an extra 10 points of damage at 20th level)."
Isn't that additional damage magic damage?

Lyraesel |

Yeah if it counted as magic damage it would say so. The logic that it's magical damage would make practically any damage from a spell count as magic for the purposes of DR which very much isn;t the case. Besides, this is one of the few spells that actually lays out what DR it overcomes, coin by coin.
If it meant to overcome DR/Magic it would definitely say so.

Winsome Briskalberd |

Are there any other spells that specifically say they bypass DR/magic? Or that say they don't bypass DR/magic? I don't think it's weird to assume that all magic is magic.

Byron Vhiski |
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There are spells, like Magic Stone, Magic Weapon and Greater Magic Weapon, that specifically turn the Ammo into magical ammo. There are other spells, like Icicle Dagger, that start off creating a MW dagger that does +1 Cold damage and as it becomes more powerful it gains a +1 enhancement instead which would handle the DR/Magic issue.

Lyraesel |

If it were meant to bypass DR/Magic it would say so in the spell text.
"Damage Reduction may be overcome by special materials, magic weapons (any weapon with a +1 or higher enhancement bonus, not counting the enhancement from masterwork quality), certain types of weapons (such as slashing or bludgeoning), and weapons imbued with an alignment."

Byron Vhiski |

To be honest, I am not sure where the map is so I did not think he was close enough to attack me. If he is threatening multiple PC's and we cannot all 5 ft step back to get out of range I will take the AoO. If we can all step back, I would.

Winsome Briskalberd |

I'm confused. Last turn, Winsome wasn't close enough to throw a coin, so I cast magic missile, which did nothing for some reason. Was it countered? Magic resistance? Something else? Winsome's really good at Spellcraft, so wouldn't he at least get a roll to figure out why?
Then the creature "cast a spell that Winsome can't Spellcraft." Why not? Is Winsome blinded or something?
Then it moved, presumably as a move action, but I can't tell from the map where it came from or where it is now. It seems like it is in the middle of us, but no one got attacks of opportunity.
Then it touched Kelda, an attack-- does it have two standards in a turn, or was the spell quickened somehow?
I'm having a really hard time following this combat, and it's taking too much of my limited gaming time to figure out what's going on.
So I guess Winsome is passing.

Phantom Genius |
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It did nothing due to SR or immunity to Magic Missile.
Winsome and Zaraleva both rolled Spellcraft and both failed.
It cast a touch spell, then moved up to within 10' (tentacle reach) above Kelda to touch her. That's normal for a touch spell. (You probably knew that.) No one in the party had a reach weapon out at the time, so no one got an AoO.
Go ahead and take your turn and then I'll post for Z and K.

Lyraesel |

It's not that it was too far to throw a coin...he was too far for it to be a touch attack.

Lyraesel |

Yup. Pretty sure his "and it's taking too much of my limited gaming time to figure out what's going on." was his exit statement.

Byron Vhiski |

I think we are fine without a recruitment.

Lyraesel |

The creature retreating into the air without releasing Aiko would require a successful Drag maneuver
If it doesn't have Improved Drag, Aiko would get an AoO against it.

Chuck8 |

This is true. Additionally, even if it did have Improved Drag, it would only be able to move 5 feet, plus an additional 5 feet for every 5 points it beats Aiko's CMD. If the creature is trying to do its' best to put distance between it and the party, the smartest tactical maneuver would be to let go of Aiko and full withdraw, as opposed to risk the AoO from her and hope it beats her CMD by 30 or something.

Byron Vhiski |

In Pathfinder, to maintain a grapple it has to actively spend it's standard action to make and succeed at a grapple check. It can then opt for one of the many options while grapping.
If it does not do that, the grapple automatically ends and it could just float away as normal. Although it would provoke if it moved away and took any other actions.

Hattori Aiko |

This monster is so absurd, and our rolls so bad, that I'm about to throw in the towel and just say "We can no longer progress this adventure."

Lyraesel |

Definitely feels that way. It's immune to almost everything seemingly, and has motion options most 3rd level characters can't deal with well.

Lyraesel |

Pretty sure Winsome bailed over a month ago. If you want I'll Make an NPC post for him to try to expedite getting this cursed battle over with.

Byron Vhiski |

Byron thinks its not an evil outsider. But he ran out of flaming arrows to shoot at it, so now we will see if it is in fact an Evil Outsider. If it is, then this might explode it.