GM_DBH's Shattered Star

Game Master DBH

<checks inventory and pulls out the Shard of Greed. With shifty eyes he puts it back in and rolls a 1 on a bluff check to not look sketchy while doing so>

I’m more than happy to see *anyone* take loot they can use, and do not want Bharak to end up too wealthy compared to his companions.

Honestly, I would like to keep one of the two undead bane weapons, either the Jet black longsword (Longsword +1 Undead bane) or the + 1 undead bane disruption club (bearing a permanent magic aura that masks its actual magic aura)

I like the idea of the long sword and I assume it is the less expensive of the two weapons.

Also, what does the shard of gluttony do, and who doesn't have a shard yet?

If the Gluttony shard has similar stats to the online pathfinder reference document/website, searching the shard by name:

"Shard of Gluttony (Major Artifact)
Aura overwhelming necromancy; CL 25th; Slot none; Price —; Weight 1 lb.

DESCRIPTION

The Shard of Gluttony is made of pale inubrix. As long as the Shard of Gluttony is carried, its owner can use vampiric touch as a spell-like ability once per day, gains a +2 insight bonus on saves versus necromancy spells, and increases his maximum hit points by 1 point per Hit Die."

These are only the positive effects. Like all of them, there is a curse unless the correct Ioun stone is slotted into/with them, which I suspect Sheila Heidmarch will provide us with again. So we don't know what the full benefit is of the shard + Ioun stone combo. But the shard itself basically grants Toughness, a hard to come by saving throw bonus vs necromancy, which can be nice, and a niche life-drain touch attack once per day. I guess the shard is useful for most types of characters.

@ Bharak, Haha, I suppose that is rather in-character ;)

@Elathras Be my guest on the weapon if you think you'll use it. I have an undead bane rapier too so I can't really complain there. Lots of undead bane weapons in general in these books thusfar, this makes 3 or 4 in total I believe? Foreshadowing?

@GM what is the pricing on the special undead bane club...? I don't know how to price it with its continuous 'magic hiding effect' in addition to the normal +2 total enhancement bonus it has.

Thanks for going through the thread and updating the loot list, Elena!

As an Aside I am also unsure how to price the spellbooks if Axton doesn't need those now that he is an arcanist.

Spellbooks are priced by the spells they contain. Let's hold off on selling them for now. An arcanist can learn new spells from borrowed/captured spellbooks, but it costs money and time to do so. Let me work through what Axton can use, and then I'll sell the unused books and put the money back in the party fund.

@Elena.

Sheila Heidmarch sent you here with the Ioun stone already, slot it into the shard and start using it. :)

That club is strange? Undead bane & Disruption are two different things. The cost of which makes the Club 32300gp.

I'm ruling the magic hiding effect is a variant of the Glamered ability so that adds another 4000gp to the price. Making that simple club 36300gp in price.

It can't change its shape or appearance but doesn't show up as a magic weapon. As to why it's like this?

It was hidden here long ago by Karzoug's servants as a sort of insurance policy, kept close at hand should their master ever need to punish the Dark Rider with something that would be particularly painful and effective against the undead being.

As always they are such nice people.

Hey, have we been tracking who has used the rechargeable Tome of Clear Thought +2 anywhere? I remember Bharak got it first, I think someone else may have used it, but I don't remember anything after that. I may have future plans that could benefit from reading it.

It's two days until we can use it again, by my tracking. What do you need it for? +2 int is nice for everyone to have but if it's critical for your build I can pass rolling on it. The only ones still able to use it are you, me and (now) Vhane.

Well, when I asked, I was toying with the idea of switching from a sorcerer to an arcanist. :)

Last question, who is taking the Shard of gulttony?

I guess Vhane will if nobody else wants it.

What Ioun stone does it use? I guess it would depend on what kind of Ioun stone it uses. If it's one that is utterly useless for Vhane, then nevermind.

I'm sure someone else could probably make better use of it if that's the case. Would hate to have an item that's only "half good" when there's the potential of someone taking full advantage of both the shard and the stone.

It uses the pink rhomboid ioun stone, so +2 to con.

And for some unknown reason they decided to add side quests to the character descriptions at the back of the book?

This is for Augustille the Troll prophet.

SIDE QUEST
Augustille suspects that the PCs will be heading into the Undercity soon. Before the group leaves for the Therassic Spire, he takes them aside and asks them a favor-he's heard rumors of a river that winds through the Undercity that has properties similar to the River Styx.

If the PCs bring him a vial of this water, he'll trade them a magic fly for it. Augustille hopes that an alchemist friend can use the water to blunt or perhaps remove the horrific dreams he periodically suffers.

Reward: If the PCs deliver Augustille a vial of water from the River of Memory in area B14, they earn a figurine of wondrous power (ebony fly).

So you can add a Figurine of wonderous power (Ebony fly) to the loot. :)

GM_DBH wrote:

Last question, who is taking the Shard of gulttony?

I guess Vhane will if nobody else wants it.

That is why I asked who had a stone and what this one did. Elathras is still without, but I don't know what they do and which ones are remaining. Figuring one that would benefit a front liner would be good.

So are Vhane and Elathras the only two who don't have a shard?

I would suggest Elathras takes it. Vhane has a belt of Con +2.

As a late arrival character he also started with enough gold to equip himself quite well. Unlike characters starting at a lower level who have to take what they can stumble across, or save their gold until they can afford it. :)

Fine with me.

As a late arrival character he also started with enough gold to equip himself quite well. Unlike characters starting at a lower level who have to take what they can stumble across, or save their gold until they can afford it. :)

While that typically is true, Vhane's equipment totals just above 32,000 gold. I'd gather I'm probably not equipped as well as the others at this point.

Except for maybe Axton but I'm not real sure. Arcane types typically don't blow up with costs due to not having to worry about armor and weapons for the most part.

At this point we should have 4 shards I believe.

It seems likely, following this pattern, that the last Ioun stones corresponding to the two Shards before the Ioun stone grant +2 dex and wis respectively and that the shardshave a passive ability that correlates to them.

On this new stone, I agree with the GM in that if Elathras, as a tank, does not have a con bonus yet, it would probably best serve us if he got both +2 con and 'toughness' from this new shard over a ranged damage dealer. Though I understand the feeling of now wanting to get 'outgunned' for Javell's gunslinger.

@Axton Okay, since you transitioned to Arcanist I'll pass on the int tome to you when it becomes available in a couple of days. I think it was down to a cooldown of 3 days or so. It was at six days at Berkanin's mansion I believe. I think that would leave only Elena and Vhane not having used it yet, if he passes it too.

@ Everyone With the updated price of the club (thanks GM) and the quest rewards, assuming we sell the poison, we have (7000 + 28000 + potentially 10000 (if we sell the figurine))/2 +8000 (gold reward)/5 = 5,3 k gold each extra to spend which would make the total around 22,19 k Each.

I can start crafting woundrous items again after finishing my +4 wis headband if someone wants to request something. As vhane is right in that his gear level is a bit light he should probably have priority in requesting something. Though I would like to see him convince Elena to do that after all his grouching XD

Axton doesn't have a Shard either.

Umazara had/shas the Shard of Lust. I thought that we had talked about finding an in-game reason for the Shard to switch from her to Vhane, but I guess the conversation never went anywhere. I don't think Vhane would really benefit from its abilities, so that's fine.

The Shard of Lust requires a pink and green sphere ioun stone, which gives a +2 to Charisma.

Since the Sihedron has seven Shards, and it's unlikely that this group will ever have seven PCs, it seems reasonable that Sheila Heidmarch or someone would hold onto the extra Shards until we need all of them. I suggest we assume that Umazara arranged for the Shard to get to Heidmarch.

Agreed that the Shard of Gluttony should go to Elathras. Any combatant who gets inside his polearm's reach is then threatened by his vampiric touch SLA. :)

@Axton Okay, since you transitioned to Arcanist I'll pass on the int tome to you when it becomes available in a couple of days.

Thanks!

Also, can Elena cast remove curse on Axton when next she prays for spells? He was the only one hit with the curse of living death.

Also also, can Elena cast restoration on Axton? He's still down 5 strength from broken Thassilonian librarian blob.

Finally, Axton has a Headband of alluring charisma +4. Obviously, that needs to be switched out for something that boots intelligence. I'm going to use selling the old headband to fund the new headband. I would love for Elena to craft it if she can, but if there's a higher priority, I'm fine with buying one for full price.

Today did a number on Axton.

Ok, that ends the fight. Elathras & Vhane slaughter the idiots as they struggle against the tentacle. Seriously the Caulborn are CR7, the Chrestomath is CR6.

Yes, when you mentioned that the caulborn were blocking the party's exit, I was surprised when I looked at the map and only saw three targets.

Ok, I will add the shard to Elathras page.

Is there any reason we can't just handwave the headband of charisma to a headband of intelligence?

@Axton Sure, Elena would definitely help you get back to health. If anyone ever needs such services during downtime, you can assume she helps her fellow Pathfinders to the best of her magical abilities.

Regarding the shard of Lust, it also grants +4 initative... so even if the charisma or charm abilities aren't useful, it's still effectively a better improved initiative. I think we can handwave Umazura handing it off to one of the other party members? Or otherwise perhaps she just left it with Sheila and one of us without a shard can pick it up on the way.

Great point. And with 2 players who want a shared, handing her one over works perfectly.

Yes, someone in the party has the shard of lust. It was definitely passed on to you when Umazura had to leave.

Sorry, I went to update but the board was undergoing maintenance. No update today as I'm out of time.

Okay, I'm fine with the simpler solution of assuming Umazara handed over the Shard of Lust when she left.

Vhane, do you mind if Axton takes the Shard of Lust? An arcanist does benefit from both Charisma and (obvsiously) a bonus to initiative.

Is there any reason we can't just handwave the headband of charisma to a headband of intelligence?

That would be DBH's call, but I'm fine if he rules that it doesn't convert. It's only money.

And speaking of handwaving (*pro transtion move*), DBH, any issues with me assuming that Elena's remove curse and restoration fix Axton? Remove curse requires a caster level check, but since we have multiple days to try it, I'm assuming it will work before the party needs a non-weak, non-smelly Axton again.

Also, I'm going to assume that Axton will be able to use the Tome of Clear Thought during this downtime.

No to handwaving the headband. It is still Charisma. :)

Yes to Elena curing all Axton's ailments.

Yes to using the Tome of Clear thought. Who hasn't used that by the way?

Yes to using the Tome of Clear thought. Who hasn't used that by the way?

Elathras has not.

Afaik, it was used by bharak and one other person. Maybe umazura...?

Anyway, shopping for Elena:

-She takes the +2 amulet of natural armor from the found loot and equips it, as well as the boots of springing and striding (she already had those on).

-Over the next day, she finishes upgrading her +2 dex belt into a +2 dex/con belt. She then upgrades it to a greater plague rat belt the next day (which is essentially a +2 dex/con belt with some added utility vs poison and disease for minor cost). That costs 600 g.

-Over the next six days, she upgrades her +2 wisdom headband to a +4 wisdom headband (costs 6000 g).

On the seventh day, she crafts a buffering cap to fill her headslot. (costs 900 g).

Time left: 15/23 days.

Spent: 7500/22200 gold. (She also had 1 k left from the last shopping trip om may 24th, looking back at the post. So 15.7 k left to spend).

@Everyone: I need to think a bit more on what else to get. If anyone has any thoughts or requests on this, feel free to let me know.

I am considering things like the Spectral shroud to have permanent see invisibility for the party (I would have to craft this due to costs - takes up all our crafting time for the next segment), a wand of haste, a rod of Inspiring spell (increases the morale bonus from good hope from +2 to +3 on each cast), or getting a training weapon for a teamwork feat and then sharing it with others through the Shared Training spell.

Alternatively there's also the consideration of buying a diamond worth 5 k gold, perhaps in scroll form so we have a raise dead available to use if needed. Axton could perhaps use the scroll to ress Elena if Elena died. And/or keeping some diamond dust available for Restoration spells.

Personally I am inclining towards the spectral shroud but that means we only have 2 days left of crafting time for others, and Vhane is probably next in line for requests on having a woundrous item made for him.

Hey Elena, Elathras would be very interested in a pair of 'gloves of Dueling' if no one else needs anything made, would they be possible?

IF you don't have time to craft them, he will puchase a pair before we leave Kaer Maga.

@ Everyone With the updated price of the club (thanks GM) and the quest rewards, assuming we sell the poison, we have (7000 + 28000 + potentially 10000 (if we sell the figurine))/2 +8000 (gold reward)/5 = 5,3 k gold each extra to spend which would make the total around 22,19 k Each.

I'm not quite following that math, but it sounds like we each get 22,190 gold. Right?

And thank you for calculating Axton's soul on the loot sheet! But he hasn't lost it to Maligast. Probably. Maybe.

Yes to using the Tome of Clear thought. Who hasn't used that by the way?

Because this question keeps coming up, I've created a tab on our Loot sheet to track this.

AND IT'S A GOOD THING I DID! HEY, ELENA! You're up to use the tome, since Axton was the second person to use it. Oops.

The tab is called "From the Minds of Monsters," since that's what the artifact is actually called.

Also, I created a Sihedron tab on the loot sheet, because we keep forgetting who has which Shard. I got each Shard's ability and curse from PathfinderWiki.com, and I got the ioun stones that go with each Shard from this old post from a Shattered Star campaign on these boards. If any of what I have on that tab is incorrect, DBH, feel free to correct.

Elena Neidhardt wrote:

@ Everyone With the updated price of the club (thanks GM) and the quest rewards, assuming we sell the poison, we have (7000 + 28000 + potentially 10000 (if we sell the figurine))/2 +8000 (gold reward)/5 = 5,3 k gold each extra to spend which would make the total around 22,19 k Each.

I'm not quite following that math, but it sounds like we each get 22,190 gold. Right?

Sorry, my equasion was probably needlessly complicated there but essentially correct. We get half of any additional value increases (compared to my first list) from selling, in this case the extra added gold value of the club + poisons we get, divided by 5 (each of us gets an equal share). The gold reward from the other quest is just flat gold divided by five. The total added amount of gold was 5,3 k each and added to the earlier 16.89 k you get around 22.19 k each.

@Axton Thanks for the added tab. If Axton already used the tome, was that included in his stat retrain to arcanist? 19 int feels a bit low if it includes the +2 inherent bonus from the tome. And Sure, Elena would happily take the int tome third, helps out her knowledge skills and spellcraft nicely.

@Elathras Sure, she definitely would help you with that. Takes 8 days of crafting time and 8 k gold.

@Vhane Do you want or need any woundrous item crafted with the remaining crafting time? Does Vhane need a +4 dex belt or such? That should bring your total wealth a bit more in line with the others. If he has a +2 dex belt, upgrading costs 6 days of crafting time and 6 k gold.

...This would leave us with just 1 day of crafting time. Since I think Elena crafted a str belt for Bharak previously, next in line for crafting is Axton then, probably. However, I wouldn't be able to make anything large until we get the next downtime period.

@Axton Thanks for the added tab. If Axton already used the tome, was that included in his stat retrain to arcanist? 19 int feels a bit low if it includes the +2 inherent bonus from the tome.

It does not. When I converted from sorcerer to arcanist, I felt like it was to blatant to go from an ultra-high charisma to an ultra-high intelligence when in my mind I was supposed to be merging the two. But keep in mind that four points of that Charisma is from Axton's headband, which will get converted to Intelligence when I buy a new headband.

I'll add the Intelligence from the Tome when I add the Intelligence from the new headband at the same time since it will affect Axton's skills so much, and I'd rather do them together.

Speaking of which... DBH, we weren't supposed to level up at the end of this adventure were we?

And Sure, Elena would happily take the int tome third, helps out her knowledge skills and spellcraft nicely.

It seemed to me from earlier conversation that we had already decided you would be next.

@Elathras Sure, she definitely would help you with that. Takes 8 days of crafting time and 8 k gold.

Awesome! I will subtract the appropriate amount :)

Okay, I'm fine with the simpler solution of assuming Umazara handed over the Shard of Lust when she left.

Vhane, do you mind if Axton takes the Shard of Lust? An arcanist does benefit from both Charisma and (obvsiously) a bonus to initiative.

Don't mind at all.

Afaik, it was used by bharak and one other person. Maybe umazura...?

Nope. It was not. Not to my knowledge anyway.

@Vhane Do you want or need any woundrous item crafted with the remaining crafting time? Does Vhane need a +4 dex belt or such? That should bring your total wealth a bit more in line with the others. If he has a +2 dex belt, upgrading costs 6 days of crafting time and 6 k gold.

I have a +2 belt of Dex/Con. Can't upgrade one without the other. And that's 30,000. So, it'll have to be a pass seeing how we don't have 30 days.

I'm not sure where the 23 days came from, to be honest, but, whatever works.

Gold: 22190 + 2693 = 24883
Now to figure out how much transformative + keen will cost….

Is it 10k for keen (+2 weapon currently) and 10k for transformative?

@Axton. You finish this book well into 10th level. No level up yet. :)

Elena Neidhardt wrote:

@Vhane Do you want or need any woundrous item crafted with the remaining crafting time? Does Vhane need a +4 dex belt or such? That should bring your total wealth a bit more in line with the others. If he has a +2 dex belt, upgrading costs 6 days of crafting time and 6 k gold.

I have a +2 belt of Dex/Con. Can't upgrade one without the other. And that's 30,000. So, it'll have to be a pass seeing how we don't have 30 days.

I'm not sure where the 23 days came from, to be honest, but, whatever works.

We'd actually need 15 days since you can increase the DC by 5 to double progress. Crafting the belt has a base DC of 17 and Elena's spellcraft bonus is +18 (after reading the int tome). So she'd need a roll of 4+ to make the double progress roll. Assuming take 10's can be taken during downtime or a 10g level 1 cast of crafter's fortune is available from spellcasting services, Elena cannot fail that check.

The 23 days are an estimation on my part, the journey to the next site was stated by DBH to be 20 days of boat travel and then 'a couple of days by land'. A side note here for earlier, I realized Elena does already have a headslot item so that adds 1 available day of crafting time. (leaves 8 days after Elathras' gauntlets). I could aslo potentially not upgrade her con/dex belt to a belt of the rat, which adds another day.

So, currently, there is an estimation of 8 or 9 days left of time to make woundrous items before the next destination. Our characters probably have a rough idea of the travel time as well since they made the trip before and have good knowledge skill. If you can't think of something that costs 16-18k gold or less and could be made in 8-9 days or decide to pass for now, that's fine of course - then I'll make something else like Axton's headband or the Banner of the Ancient kings below.

@Everyone One other option for crafting I recently thought of; I could instead craft a Banner of the Ancient kings for Elena, which would increase her inspire courage bonus by +1 (+1 hit/damage among other things) for everyone as well as grant everyone an extra static +2 hit and damage morale to hit/damage bonus when near her, as well as increase her initiative by 4 to add the buffs earlier. That would take exactly the remaining 9 days. If everyone agrees to this I'll alter my crafting to create it. That would leave exactly enough time to craft Elathras' gauntlets too. I think this item might be the overall 'best' crafting option as it benefits the most people, but then Axton an Vhane wouldn't get personal items made for them this crafting round.

@GM This is actually a fair question, can take 10's be taken during magic item crafting? If not I'll buy a wand of crafter's fortune for 750 g before leaving the city.

@Elena, Yes you can Take 10 crafting items.

Doing some calculations on if the flagbearer/banner of the ancient kings build is possible on Elena, as it takes 15 cha instead of the 13 I thought earlier...

If only Shelyn had the accounting domain.

If only Shelyn had the accounting domain.

Dating *has* become very expensive...

Just a question. Have you put the Ebony fly on the loot sheet, or is someone carrying it?

A flying mount you can use for 12 hours, 3 times a week could be useful.

Just a question. Have you put the Ebony fly on the loot sheet, or is someone carrying it?

A flying mount you can use for 12 hours, 3 times a week could be useful.

If the figurine/ebony fly is not on the loot list now, then i didn't add it nor take it into account for selling. Looking back though, i did make a math error when calculating the extra gold from selling the club and quest reward. We do not get 5.3 k each, but 5.1 k each. So it'd be 21990 g each instead of 22190 g.

Unless the figurine is sold. At 10 k base value and 50% sold, that would add 1 k more each. But i think the utility of having a flyong mount in the group might be more important, personally.

Also, @ everyone we should still have that quest reward of 10% cheaper purchases of items/magic items in Magnimar.

Thank you for crafting the gloves Elena! I'll get a post up in game shortly.

GM_DBH will we be in Magnimar long enough for Elathras to pay to have his belt upgraded? Assuming that it is permitted.

@DBH would you allow the Banner of the Ancient kings to work on a Branched spear or Glaive? Or does it *have* to be a longspear or pole?

On that regard, say I use it on a pole. Can I the hold the pole in one hand and still get the benefit, allowing a shield used in the off hand? As in, never attacking with the pole, just holding the flag with the main hand?

https://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic-items/wondrous-items/a-b/banner-of-the-ancie nt-kings/

@Elathras. What is your belt being upgraded to? +2 going to +4 is fine, more that that starts taking too long.

@Elena. Yes you can use the banner on your branched spear. It's a two handed weapon with a pole the same as a longspear.

As for holding it and having a shield, again that's fine. Definitely no attacks though! :)

@Elathras. What is your belt being upgraded to? +2 going to +4 is fine, more that that starts taking too long.

He has a belt of 'Giant Strength' (+ 2) was thinking making it a Belt of Physical Might to add Dex. His Dex modifier is + 1, and I invested in Combat Reflexes so I thought to make the dex higher.

Going from a Belt of giant strength +2 to a Belt of Physical might +2 (Str, Dex) is 8000gp. So 8 days crafting.

You're not racing off straight away, everyone has things to do in Magnimar. So yes you can upgrade. But that is the maximum time for upgrading.

Cool, I double check everything and get a post up in the morning.

@DBH Thanks! I'll need to think a bit on whether to go for an active 2h weapon or just holding a pole + shield. The latter of which is probably better with how little Elena attacks. By the way, on Elathras' str belt, a +2 to 2 stats belt is usually 10000 gold, 6 k more than a +2 to 1 stat belt. Is there any reason Elathras' is more expensive?

https://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic-items/wondrous-items/a-b/belt-of-physical-mi ght/

@Vhane/Axton I realize crafting the Banner for Elena means I won't get around to your crafts this go around, but I'll give you priority during the next downtime over Elena and the others. Hopefully the reminder that we have a 10% off of purchases in magnimar compensates somewhat.

@Elena. Belt of Giant str +2 - 2000gp.

Belt of Physical might (+2 str, +2 dex) - 10000gp. That's 8000gp difference, what am I missing?

@Elena. Belt of Giant str +2 - 2000gp.

Belt of Physical might (+2 str, +2 dex) - 10000gp. That's 8000gp difference, what am I missing?

A belt of giant strength/dex/con normally has a base cost of 4000 g, not 2000. 2000 is is you craft it yourself. So upgrading it to the 10 k +2 str/dex one is normally 6 k gold.

I hereby claim the accounting domain for Shelyn :P