I have never started a thread like this before, so I hope I am not beating a dead horse on this one. I know there are tone of threads out there discussing the creation of magic items, and I have read through them, as well as reading the book, AND other sources online.
While a lot of magic item creations make sense, there are a lot that don't calculate in my head. When that happens, I usually try to "reverse engineer" an item to see if I can figure out how they got there.
One that I am having an issue figuring out is the Efficient Quiver
http://paizo.com/pathfinderRPG/prd/magicItems/wondrousItems.html#efficient- quiver
Would someone be able to help explain to me how an item like that, needing a 9th level caster and a 5th level spell and having no space limitation costs only a mere 1,800 gp?
Thanks all!
(as an aside, the reason I am asking is because I am trying to throw together a similar magic item...)
IT falls under the 'similar item' pricing rule.
Take a look at a handy haversack. 3k? Great deal. Obviously better and more flexible then the quiver, doesn't take up a slot, either.
The quiver was priced off of what similar items are valued at, not the caster level x spell level method.
This is why that method is the SECOND method you use to figure stuff out, not the first.
=+Aelryinth
The idea at the end of the process is to evaluate the object and ask yourself: how good is that? How much would a PC pay to have it? At what level should that object appear in my game?
That quiver may very well cost 20k gp by the rules, but would a PC buy it? would it help him enough to justify him being 20k gp behind in equipment compared to an equivalent character?
That's the reason why you don't see around the famous ring of true strike or boots of perpetual haste. Well, the reason it's actually the opposite, they would be too good.
I think that the efficient quiver is one of the best magic item and one of the best priced: it does its job very well, but it could be easily substituted by a few normal quivers, why should a PC pay tons of gold for just being cool?
EDIT: some typos
Awesome! Thanks guys.
I've got to remember that there isn't a perfect formula for everything, especially for the magic items!
Yeahhh... I once calculated a Ring of Righteous Might by the books rules.
O_O
Holy schemoly was that thing pricey... Like you say Crysknife, there is a reason you don't see items like that floating around everywhere
|
If you are making a judgement based off the custom magic item guidelines, then you are skipping past the fact that within the section, it calls it out as guidelines.
Not hard rules.
There is no hard formula for magic item pricing.
Most established item do not follow the suggested pricing guidelines, as they would be too cheap, or too expensive for what it provides.
I cannot recall how many times I have to remind people that those rules are guidelines.
Guidelines.
Like the Pirate's Code, eh? :)
Naw BBT, you didn't come off as ranty at all.
You were just pointing out what it states in the book
(the fact that is says it right there, yet I swanned past it going: "Ooo, pretty calculation chart!")
It's all good :) Thanks!
[rant]They may be guidelines, but they work well in many, many cases.[/rant]