Kingmaker

Game Master Galahad0430

I would say Harrim is fairly balanced between offense and defense, with the ability to swap between the two if needed. He is about 50/50 on spells as well. (his adventuring spells, that is)

alternatively I could focus on summoning if you would prefer, since summoning is never particularly bad.

Cuàn wrote:

I've been playing with more ideas including one that dips a single level of Monk using the Master of Many Styles archetype so it can adopt two styles at ones (the Fighter feat that does this requires at least one of them to be a weapon style, which I'm not using). This second style to run next to Mobile Bulwark Style would be Archon Style.

This build would be a better all-round protector than the High Guardian version as it's not limited to protecting just it's charge (and itself). On the flip side, it's quite gimmicky with the monk level and not a great fit for the character. I guess you could say Valerie went soul searching after she dropped out from Paladin school.

So a few questions for the GM and the current players: What kind of Valerie would you like to see? I'm talking broad strokes here, so would you like an offensive or a more defensive version? How far is it ok to stray from the original and still be Valerie? Or does being Valerie purely depend on the rp character and not so much on the build? How gimmicky can one go?

I'd say stronger defensive side might be a good idea given that Amiri and Regongar are likely to be heavy offense, Harrim somewhat geared toward offense as well, and Pyros (our other active player) is an offensive character, making a heavily defensive build might stand out a bit more, and bring something unique to the table.

I should note that Pyros will become more defensive in time, as I take the Crane Style feats.

I wouldn't think you'd want Harrim using up his spell slots for summoning spells. They're much more valuable as cure spells, in my opinion, especially if you're going cleric instead of warpriest (warpriest has Wis-based channels instead of Cha-based channels).

Are the tieflings not available options?

I would love to apply for this but it seems all the available characters have already been applied for.

I wouldn't think you'd want Harrim using up his spell slots for summoning spells. They're much more valuable as cure spells, in my opinion, especially if you're going cleric instead of warpriest (warpriest has Wis-based channels instead of Cha-based channels).

unless those summons took hits instead of the party, then the summons are basically walking cure spells that sometimes hit things ;)

unless those summons took hits instead of the party, then the summons are basically walking cure spells that sometimes hit things ;)

Maybe, but it seems like there's lots of melee characters in this group, and not very many healers. If Harrim is doing something in combat, I think I'd rather it was something that doesn't consume resources, saving his spells for the inevitable patching up afterwards.

Are the tieflings not available options?

I would love to apply for this but it seems all the available characters have already been applied for.

We aren't far enough along for them to be a factor as yet.

for what it is worth, Most of harrims spells are prepared for combat. Most will likely be used for combat, be it buffing, debuffing, or damage. He has no problem with converting some to healing in dire situations, or at the end of the day, but perhaps a wand of infernal healing would be a good purchase for out of combat healing.

And we do have a couple of wands for healing post-combat. Faerin can use the CLW wand (currently 50 charges), and CMW is on my list though I can't cast it yet, but should be able to with a wand (we've found one with a few castings worth)

for what it is worth, Most of harrims spells are prepared for combat. Most will likely be used for combat, be it buffing, debuffing, or damage. He has no problem with converting some to healing in dire situations, or at the end of the day, but perhaps a wand of infernal healing would be a good purchase for out of combat healing.

Also, realize items are limited to what vendors have available for purchase. Unless someone is making them during downtimes.

OK, I got more response than I anticipated. I will make a decision by Friday. Thank you to everyone for your patience.

of course, but tracking down a few 1st level wands of certain spells shouldn't be too difficult. Though, likely, unlikely until after the stag lord is dealt with, I do admit.

Octavia can use cure wands as I've built her, just FYI. (She has access to the bard spell list for activated items.)

Did some more shuffling on Valerie and ended up with a more balanced build I think. She has no gear as I don't know what is available to the characters.

I ditched the tower shield in favor of a heavy shield(for now at least) but am keeping the heavy blades Valerie starts with in game. The idea is for a character that turns defense into offense via the Archon Style chain and Paired Opportunist combined with the Fighter's Tactics Advanced Weapon Training (so not online until next level).

As I mentioned, I made her an Orlovsky as I know she's of noble birth and the Orlovsky's kind of fit with Shelyn lovers.
That and the one documented Orlovsky woman I could find, Sylvanna Orlovsky, bares some resemblance to Valerie based on her description. I'd imagine her as Valerie's older sister or cousin and someone who Valerie was jealous of as she is a military captain, something Valerie would have preferred over a paladin.

Well, tough choices, Octavia and Harrim are in, the first is your only trap disabler, and the second is the only healer. That leaves two slots for four martial types. Regongar and Valerie are in (to be honest, I like all four, but couldn't support an 8 person party. So I went with the first two to respond).

I will send you a list of your starting equipment and secret back story, let me know if you've played the game through so I can save time on writing.

Everyone is at Oleg's currently and they are getting ready to attack the Stag Lord's fort.

Good bandit hunting everyone!

I've played the game through once (getting the secret ending) and multiple other half plays.

Yay!

I've played through Varnhold (almost), but then I think I killed someone who was supposed to respond and things glitched at that point. Current playthrough I am just starting Varnhold again

I have between 2-3 openings for this AP. They have just defeated the Stag Lord and established their Barony.

This verison is based off of the Owlcat Games version of Kingmaker. There is a bonus for anyone that chooses to play one of the main NPCs. The NPCs that are available are:
Valerie - Human female Tower Shield Fighter
Harrim - Dwarf male Cleric of Groetus
Octavia - Half-Elf female Transmuter Wizard (with 1 level of Rogue)
Ekundayo - Human male Ranger (archery focus)

If you choose one of these, PM me for more specific details, but ask general questions here. You may submit other characters instead. The character creation rules are at the beginning of this thread.

I'm interested. I'd like to play Valerie first, or Harrim second.

I'm interested. I'd like to play Valerie first, or Harrim second.

I responded to your PM.

I'd definitely be open to playing Ekundayo, if he's needed.

OK, I have both Valerie and Ekundayo. I will leave this open (for a few days) for one more player for either Harrim or Octavia.

* Waves *

Are their stats the same as in the Kingmaker game? I'd like to pick Octavia over Harrim if there's a slot available.

Sorry, all the slots were taken. Octavia was picked.

Rolling Ekun's HP, Max pts + 2nd - 5th levels + CON: 10 + 4d10 + 10 ⇒ 10 + (7, 3, 8, 1) + 10 = 39

[dice=Rolling Ekun's HP, Max pts + 2nd - 5th levels + CON]10 + 4d10 + 10

Replace the 3 and the 1 with 6s.

OK, a slot opened, looking for someone willing to play Ekundayo.

I’d be willing to give Ekundayo a try if you will have me.

Done deal! I responded to your PM.

Sorry, all the slots were taken. Octavia was picked.

Ah well, maybe next time. Good luck with your game!