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Female Human Bard 2 | HP 17/17 | AC: 13 | Saves: Str -1, Dex +4, Con +2, Int +0, Wis -1, Cha +6 | Rapier +4 (1d8+2), Shortbow +4 (1d6+2) | Init: +2 | Passive Perception 10, Investigation 11, Insight 10 | Spell DC 14

Ah, I was relying on DnD Beyond too, I'll paste them soon. I'm very OK with some extra fun!


HP 9/9 | AC 15 | Acr +8 Dec +5 Int +5 Inv +3 Perc +2 Pers +5 SoH +13 Stea +6 | Saves: S +0, D* +6, C +1, I* +3, W +0, Ch +3; Adv charm, disease; Imm Sleep | Init +4 | PPerc 12; PInv 13; PIns 10; DrkVis | Spd 30' | Insp: No | HD 1/1 | Status: Normal |

Still here.


Hi guys,

Made a copy of wicked_raygun's hideout map...could you test and make sure you can see it?

Hideout


Female Human Bard 2 | HP 17/17 | AC: 13 | Saves: Str -1, Dex +4, Con +2, Int +0, Wis -1, Cha +6 | Rapier +4 (1d8+2), Shortbow +4 (1d6+2) | Init: +2 | Passive Perception 10, Investigation 11, Insight 10 | Spell DC 14

I can see and edit, no trouble.
Also, I've placed my data in the sheet.


Female Half-Elf Barbarian HP: 25/25 | AC: 16 | Saves: STR* +5 DEX +3 CON* +5 INT +1 WIS +1 CHA +3 | Perception: +3, Investigate: +1, Insight: +1 | Rage: 2/2 Status:

I can move about and see all of the things.

Tried to see if I could export the sheet, but that didn't help. I'll be working on it tonight.


Female Half-Elf Barbarian HP: 25/25 | AC: 16 | Saves: STR* +5 DEX +3 CON* +5 INT +1 WIS +1 CHA +3 | Perception: +3, Investigate: +1, Insight: +1 | Rage: 2/2 Status:

Okay, stats have been added.

DM-Salsa wrote:

It had been a wild and crazy day when the crew finally got a chance to relax at The Haggard Ale, a cozy tavern in the less affluent districts of Waterdeep. The job finished, they talk and split the loot up over a round of drinks while a couple of gnomes play a badly tuned rendition of "The Open Lord's Daughter" that some of the other patrons drunkenly sing along too.

just setting the scene. Figured this happened before the game started.

"We never speak of what happened in that one room with the fat woman, agreed," Talliree says while staring through her tankard of ale at something only she can see. "I'm going to have nightmares about that for weeks."

Near where her tankard sits between her hands, Mr. Whiskers, the mouse that rides around on Talliree, nibbles on a bread crust and drinks from a thimble filled with a few drops of wine. It's not entirely clear where the food and drink came from.


HP: 16/16. AC: 16(13). 1st Level Spells 0/3

Works for me

Mid action about to bite in a strip of pork goes pale and lets it drop back onto his plate. "Especially not while we are eating." He rubs some of the grease from his hands onto the side of the wooden table.


Female Human Bard 2 | HP 17/17 | AC: 13 | Saves: Str -1, Dex +4, Con +2, Int +0, Wis -1, Cha +6 | Rapier +4 (1d8+2), Shortbow +4 (1d6+2) | Init: +2 | Passive Perception 10, Investigation 11, Insight 10 | Spell DC 14

Ellena is focused on building a card castle, a simple practice in focus and deftness. "I threw away those clothes, no magic would ever get the smell out. A shame, too, I loved that shade of blue."


HP 9/9 | AC 15 | Acr +8 Dec +5 Int +5 Inv +3 Perc +2 Pers +5 SoH +13 Stea +6 | Saves: S +0, D* +6, C +1, I* +3, W +0, Ch +3; Adv charm, disease; Imm Sleep | Init +4 | PPerc 12; PInv 13; PIns 10; DrkVis | Spd 30' | Insp: No | HD 1/1 | Status: Normal |
GM Spazmodeus wrote:

Hi guys,

Made a copy of wicked_raygun's hideout map...could you test and make sure you can see it?

Hideout

Works for me.


Male Human; HP-23/23; AC-20; LOH 10/10; INT +2; Spell Slots (1) 2/2 Paladin / 2; ST+3, DX+2, CO+4, IN-1, WI+4, CH+5; PP 14

Map looks good. Everything works for me as well.

GM Spazmodeus wrote:

Hi guys,

Made a copy of wicked_raygun's hideout map...could you test and make sure you can see it?

Hideout


Female Half-Elf Barbarian HP: 25/25 | AC: 16 | Saves: STR* +5 DEX +3 CON* +5 INT +1 WIS +1 CHA +3 | Perception: +3, Investigate: +1, Insight: +1 | Rage: 2/2 Status:

"You could've tried scrubbing with soap and water. That's what I had to do," Talliree grumbles. "Enough of that! What about the haul? Did we get anything good?"


Ok enough of my lollygagging, I'll get a new gameplay post up today I think. I'll just continue on from where you guys stopped....


Male Probably human Computer Scientist 1/ Character Synthesizer 20/ Crazy 99

Sounds good to me. It'll be good to get this to ng again.


Ok. let's get this show on the road!

For now, I'll keep doing things as wicked_raygun did, I'll roll initiative etc. Though I reserve the right to change things up if I/we aren't satisfied with how things operate.

Fair enough?

Post coming soon.


Female Half-Elf Barbarian HP: 25/25 | AC: 16 | Saves: STR* +5 DEX +3 CON* +5 INT +1 WIS +1 CHA +3 | Perception: +3, Investigate: +1, Insight: +1 | Rage: 2/2 Status:

Work for me!

Also so happy to get a second chance to play Talliree.


HP 9/9 | AC 15 | Acr +8 Dec +5 Int +5 Inv +3 Perc +2 Pers +5 SoH +13 Stea +6 | Saves: S +0, D* +6, C +1, I* +3, W +0, Ch +3; Adv charm, disease; Imm Sleep | Init +4 | PPerc 12; PInv 13; PIns 10; DrkVis | Spd 30' | Insp: No | HD 1/1 | Status: Normal |

Fair enough!

Glad to see this resume. Thanks again Spazmodeus.


HP: 16/16. AC: 16(13). 1st Level Spells 0/3

Sounds good.

I know they're probably not expecting you to ask the Kenku to write but I've got writing implements... and chalk which is cheaper.


Well, the site is finally back.
Post coming a bit later tonite.


Female Half-Elf Barbarian HP: 25/25 | AC: 16 | Saves: STR* +5 DEX +3 CON* +5 INT +1 WIS +1 CHA +3 | Perception: +3, Investigate: +1, Insight: +1 | Rage: 2/2 Status:

Woo.

And yeah, that was crazy. Not sure what may have happened.


OK. got ownership of the campaign....now I have the power!!!! MUAHAHAHAHAHAH!!

:)

Any way, we're about a week in....any concerns/questions/criticisms/witticisms ?


Female Half-Elf Barbarian HP: 25/25 | AC: 16 | Saves: STR* +5 DEX +3 CON* +5 INT +1 WIS +1 CHA +3 | Perception: +3, Investigate: +1, Insight: +1 | Rage: 2/2 Status:

No concerns here. This has been fun. I would like to know if Talliree found what she was looking for, but like you said, it's been a little busy. :)


Female Human Bard 2 | HP 17/17 | AC: 13 | Saves: Str -1, Dex +4, Con +2, Int +0, Wis -1, Cha +6 | Rapier +4 (1d8+2), Shortbow +4 (1d6+2) | Init: +2 | Passive Perception 10, Investigation 11, Insight 10 | Spell DC 14

No concerns, it's going very nicely! I Know I haven't been the most active, I'm in the middle of some crazy days. In a couple of weeks the situation should stabilize for a while.


HP 9/9 | AC 15 | Acr +8 Dec +5 Int +5 Inv +3 Perc +2 Pers +5 SoH +13 Stea +6 | Saves: S +0, D* +6, C +1, I* +3, W +0, Ch +3; Adv charm, disease; Imm Sleep | Init +4 | PPerc 12; PInv 13; PIns 10; DrkVis | Spd 30' | Insp: No | HD 1/1 | Status: Normal |

All great.


Male Human; HP-23/23; AC-20; LOH 10/10; INT +2; Spell Slots (1) 2/2 Paladin / 2; ST+3, DX+2, CO+4, IN-1, WI+4, CH+5; PP 14

Mitchell is bound and determined to get to the bottom of this.


Male Human; HP-23/23; AC-20; LOH 10/10; INT +2; Spell Slots (1) 2/2 Paladin / 2; ST+3, DX+2, CO+4, IN-1, WI+4, CH+5; PP 14

Just an FYI a little bit about Mitchell's patron Diety, which your characters would probably have been bored to death about as he prattles quite a bit... so if you're planning on dispensing with any treasure or coin around him it would be easier to do so discreetly :-). He will be Concerned that the loot was distributed without the church's oversight, but most likely convinced that the theft is par for the course for this area... and that he must be more prudent going forward to look after ill gotten goods.

Waukeen:
Vibrant and vivacious, Waukeen (wah-keen) is a relatively young, hardworking deity who loves wealth not for itself but for what can be done and acquired with it. She enjoys bargaining and the hustle and bustle of the marketplace. She rules over deals done above and below the table--legitimate as well as black market commerce.


Female Half-Elf Barbarian HP: 25/25 | AC: 16 | Saves: STR* +5 DEX +3 CON* +5 INT +1 WIS +1 CHA +3 | Perception: +3, Investigate: +1, Insight: +1 | Rage: 2/2 Status:

So, I've been thinking that I need to change Talli's flaw. She trusts Tania and wants her to have a good opinion about her, which is something that just kinda happened. This doesn't fit with the flaw I have now, which is Talliree doesn't really trust anyone.


I consider that stuff to be guidelines....if your rp experience leads you in a different direction, so be it.


Hey guys,

DW had a good question about trap finding, disabling etc. so thought I'd clarify.

His question was prompted by my request for him to use Perception to find traps and Investigation to figure out how to deal with it.

The relevant passage from the DMG states:

A trap's description specifies the checks and DCs needed to detect it, disable it, or both. A character actively looking for a trap can attempt a Wisdom (Perception) check against the trap's DC. You can also compare the DC to detect the trap with each character's passive Wisdom (Perception) score to determine whether anyone in the party notices the trap in passing. If the adventurers detect a trap before triggering it, they might be able to disarm it, either permanently or long enough to move past it. You might call for an Intelligence (Investigation) check for a character to deduce what needs to be done, followed by a Dexterity check using thieves' tools to perform the necessary sabotage.

So a simple trap , like a deadfall type, might only need a Perception check to see it, then an Investigation to figure out how to disable. But a clever poison needle trap, would need a final Dex check with thieve's tools to deal with.

This approach mirrors my past inclination for verisimilitude when it came to traps and tricks. It will require an extra few posts to figure out, but I'm can life with that.

Al


HP 9/9 | AC 15 | Acr +8 Dec +5 Int +5 Inv +3 Perc +2 Pers +5 SoH +13 Stea +6 | Saves: S +0, D* +6, C +1, I* +3, W +0, Ch +3; Adv charm, disease; Imm Sleep | Init +4 | PPerc 12; PInv 13; PIns 10; DrkVis | Spd 30' | Insp: No | HD 1/1 | Status: Normal |

Thanks! In a way, I like that some traps may require two rolls and others three. I'll have to give a second read to investigation, as I would tend to use it when looking for something (like the old search).


One nice way I found it describes online was to think of Perception as your survival sense, using your eyes and ears to detect dangers or things of interest. But , Investigation is like Sherlock Holmes walking into a room, looking about and noting all the subtle clues that would reveal the murderer.


Female Half-Elf Barbarian HP: 25/25 | AC: 16 | Saves: STR* +5 DEX +3 CON* +5 INT +1 WIS +1 CHA +3 | Perception: +3, Investigate: +1, Insight: +1 | Rage: 2/2 Status:

That's pretty much how I was thinking of it. If you're just taking a look, it's perception, but if you're studying it, it's investigation.

I like the idea for the traps. I'm going to steal it for my campaign when the party has to go exploring some old wizard's redoubt.


HP 9/9 | AC 15 | Acr +8 Dec +5 Int +5 Inv +3 Perc +2 Pers +5 SoH +13 Stea +6 | Saves: S +0, D* +6, C +1, I* +3, W +0, Ch +3; Adv charm, disease; Imm Sleep | Init +4 | PPerc 12; PInv 13; PIns 10; DrkVis | Spd 30' | Insp: No | HD 1/1 | Status: Normal |
Spazmodeus wrote:
One nice way I found it describes online was to think of Perception as your survival sense, using your eyes and ears to detect dangers or things of interest. But , Investigation is like Sherlock Holmes walking into a room, looking about and noting all the subtle clues that would reveal the murderer.

Thanks, that's a helpful way of distinguishing them for me.


I'll give Sapiens until tonight to get a post in....then I'll bot bot bot....


Female Human Bard 2 | HP 17/17 | AC: 13 | Saves: Str -1, Dex +4, Con +2, Int +0, Wis -1, Cha +6 | Rapier +4 (1d8+2), Shortbow +4 (1d6+2) | Init: +2 | Passive Perception 10, Investigation 11, Insight 10 | Spell DC 14

Sorry, I'm having a couple of ultra busy days and the last time I managed to check I was not up. In any case, you are more than welcome to bot me if you need to keep things running.

Also, I don't know if it's your cup of tea, but most games I'm in do group initiative to keep things smooth across multiple timezones.


No biggie, if you can get a post before 10 EST please do.

Always up for suggestions on making the game work better. I was just following the init method used by wickedraygun.

How does group init work?


Female Half-Elf Barbarian HP: 25/25 | AC: 16 | Saves: STR* +5 DEX +3 CON* +5 INT +1 WIS +1 CHA +3 | Perception: +3, Investigate: +1, Insight: +1 | Rage: 2/2 Status:

Generally, you have blocks of players post as they are able and take their actions in post order. At least, that's the way I've seen it mos commonly done. I've also seen the GM resolve the actions in initiative order, but allow the players to post as they are able to.

A common method is to roll initiative for the party and allied NPCs as normal, then roll for each group of like enemies, so if you have a mage, some sneaks, and some thugs, you roll for the mage, then once for the sneaks and once for the thugs. The mage acts as normal, the sneaks act on the same initiative, and the thugs act on the same initiative. NPCs act before or after the enemies closest to their initiative, then players act when they post within their block.

Maybe I'd do better with an example.

So, we have 6 PC's with 1 NPC ally facing off against a goblin chief, a goblin shaman, two goblin warchanters, and six goblin fighters. You roll for initiative.

PC1: 1d20 + 5 ⇒ (5) + 5 = 10
PC2: 1d20 + 3 ⇒ (12) + 3 = 15
PC3: 1d20 + 2 ⇒ (6) + 2 = 8
PC4: 1d20 + 1 ⇒ (6) + 1 = 7
PC5: 1d20 + 1 ⇒ (12) + 1 = 13
PC6: 1d20 ⇒ 20

NPC-Friendly: 1d20 + 1 ⇒ (4) + 1 = 5

Gobbo Chief: 1d20 + 3 ⇒ (16) + 3 = 19
Gobbo Shaman: 1d20 + 1 ⇒ (13) + 1 = 14
Gobbo Warchanters: 1d20 + 3 ⇒ (4) + 3 = 7
Gobbo Fighters: 1d20 + 2 ⇒ (11) + 2 = 13

Initiative order:
PC6
Gobbo Chief
PC2
Gobbo Shaman
Gobbo Fighters
PC5
PC1
PC3
Gobbo Warchanters
PC4
NPC-Friendly

PC6 goes first, followed by the Gobbo Chief. PC2 goes, then the Shaman and the Fighters. PC5, PC1, and PC3 all go in the order they post since they are together in a block. The Gobbo Warchanters go, then PC6 and PC4 both go in the order they post since they are in a block with the allied NPC. The allied NPC goes before the Gobbo Chief goes again and then you go from there. As enemies are put down, the blocks merge until everyone is in a single block.

I hope this makes sense.


OK. That's actually the way I was going to approach initiative with bunches of the same :)

As for botting, I'll give at least 24 hrs until I do so, and will try to get your character to do something useful.

RL happens, we get busy, so I'll try to balance keeping the game moving with giving you a chance to post.


In the spirit of my last post which was specifically about posting while in combat, this is about general posting.

I've been internally debating the best way to keep the game moving without denying the player's agency in participating in decisions , role playing etc.

Perhaps, because I'm enjoying myself so much with this, I'm wanting to push things forward, but keep myself from doing so ,just in case someone else wants to chime in.

I'm sure this conundrum confronts all GMs on this board.

Any suggestions?


Female Half-Elf Barbarian HP: 25/25 | AC: 16 | Saves: STR* +5 DEX +3 CON* +5 INT +1 WIS +1 CHA +3 | Perception: +3, Investigate: +1, Insight: +1 | Rage: 2/2 Status:

I've seen the rule of two work. When two players agree on a course of action, the GM proceeds along that course. It generally works well in checklist situations where the PCs have to go to X, Y. and Z or in sandbox type situations where party-wide analysis paralysis can set in. In general. I'd use it in cases where the party can't decide or are talking in circles. If the party is having a good in-character discussion, let 'em and move things when a consensus has been reached or when things seem to be bogging down.

That's my two cents as a GM anyway.

Another option is to impose a 48-hour rule when things have slowed down. Give the player's 48 hours to weigh in and then go with what the consensus seems to be at that point.

In this case, I'd wait since it's the weekend and no one's even reacted to my last post. Once we get people chiming in, then we can see how things develop. Again, this is just my two cents, and I've been known to have some bad pennies. :P


HP 9/9 | AC 15 | Acr +8 Dec +5 Int +5 Inv +3 Perc +2 Pers +5 SoH +13 Stea +6 | Saves: S +0, D* +6, C +1, I* +3, W +0, Ch +3; Adv charm, disease; Imm Sleep | Init +4 | PPerc 12; PInv 13; PIns 10; DrkVis | Spd 30' | Insp: No | HD 1/1 | Status: Normal |

Both ideas sound good and can be used together.


HP: 16/16. AC: 16(13). 1st Level Spells 0/3

My laptop is having issues, please bare with me.


Talliree Yndercook wrote:

I've seen the rule of two work. When two players agree on a course of action, the GM proceeds along that course. It generally works well in checklist situations where the PCs have to go to X, Y. and Z or in sandbox type situations where party-wide analysis paralysis can set in. In general. I'd use it in cases where the party can't decide or are talking in circles. If the party is having a good in-character discussion, let 'em and move things when a consensus has been reached or when things seem to be bogging down.

That's my two cents as a GM anyway.

Another option is to impose a 48-hour rule when things have slowed down. Give the player's 48 hours to weigh in and then go with what the consensus seems to be at that point.

In this case, I'd wait since it's the weekend and no one's even reacted to my last post. Once we get people chiming in, then we can see how things develop. Again, this is just my two cents, and I've been known to have some bad pennies. :P

I like it. :)


Female Human Bard 2 | HP 17/17 | AC: 13 | Saves: Str -1, Dex +4, Con +2, Int +0, Wis -1, Cha +6 | Rapier +4 (1d8+2), Shortbow +4 (1d6+2) | Init: +2 | Passive Perception 10, Investigation 11, Insight 10 | Spell DC 14

The only objection I have about the Rule of Two is that maybe it should be suspended for more important decision, until we all have had time to weigh in: I live in Central European Time and I don't usually check the forums on the weekend, so I can often wake up to made decisions.
In any case, I don't want to be holding up the game, so if the choice is the left or right tunnel and I'm asleep, choose ahead, but if it's more important and plot-relevant I'd appreciate a moment to catch up.


HP 9/9 | AC 15 | Acr +8 Dec +5 Int +5 Inv +3 Perc +2 Pers +5 SoH +13 Stea +6 | Saves: S +0, D* +6, C +1, I* +3, W +0, Ch +3; Adv charm, disease; Imm Sleep | Init +4 | PPerc 12; PInv 13; PIns 10; DrkVis | Spd 30' | Insp: No | HD 1/1 | Status: Normal |
Ellena Garvaneel wrote:

The only objection I have about the Rule of Two is that maybe it should be suspended for more important decision, until we all have had time to weigh in: I live in Central European Time and I don't usually check the forums on the weekend, so I can often wake up to made decisions.

In any case, I don't want to be holding up the game, so if the choice is the left or right tunnel and I'm asleep, choose ahead, but if it's more important and plot-relevant I'd appreciate a moment to catch up.

That’s a very good point.


Female Half-Elf Barbarian HP: 25/25 | AC: 16 | Saves: STR* +5 DEX +3 CON* +5 INT +1 WIS +1 CHA +3 | Perception: +3, Investigate: +1, Insight: +1 | Rage: 2/2 Status:

Yeah, that is a good point. I was thinking that it'd be more for when things are bogged down and no one's actively posting. I think anything important enough for everyone to need to decide is going to have a fair bit of discussion around it.


Male Human; HP-23/23; AC-20; LOH 10/10; INT +2; Spell Slots (1) 2/2 Paladin / 2; ST+3, DX+2, CO+4, IN-1, WI+4, CH+5; PP 14

I agree. I'm slow on the weekends, and travel a lot for work... so though I can usually post every week day, my timing is not always consistent.


HP: 16/16. AC: 16(13). 1st Level Spells 0/3

@All My laptop is out of commission for a bit I am afraid, still under warranty but it'll be a while. I'll sort something temporary in the next few days hopefully but things will slow down with having to use my phone.

Bot me as need.


Male Probably human Computer Scientist 1/ Character Synthesizer 20/ Crazy 99

Bummer about the laptop. Hope all goes well.


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Yeah...love tech until the day it doesn't work right :)

Yup, I'll definitely use the rule of two for mundane decisions, but on more important choices I'll do my best to allow for input from everyone.

We'll sort out which is which as we go.


Sorry guys...busy couple of days...I'll get a post up tomorrow

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