F 8 R 11 W 9 | hp 103/103 | Init +7 | Perc +20, +1 vs traps | Effects: Endure elements (vs. cold), Fly, Shield, Greater Darkvision Female Elf Rogue 3/Evoker (Admixture) 3/Arcane Trickster 8 | AC 23, T 14, F 20, CMD 19 |
Yes, Duardlara will be relaying her observations to the party - size of the room, entrances she can see, position and type of foe.
Looking at Helgash, "You're going to want to talk to them, aren't you?"
Roll20 / Male half-orc investigator (empiricist) 1/swashbuckler (inspired blade) 1 // Init +3; Senses darkvision 60 ft.; Perception +7 / AC 19, touch 14, flat-footed 15 (+5 armor, +3 Dex, +1 dodge) / hp 22/22 / Fort +5, Ref +10, Will +6
Helgash smiles and shakes his head, speaking in hushed tones - "No Lara, I have nothing to discuss with frost giants" - his is a grim visage - "They could be a source of information is all, but delaying our attack tactics may prove dangerous against such foes"
He then looks around at his companions - "They will hear my approach for a mile away. What do you suggest? Duardlara and Orgar first strikes, Jetro and Cynehelm pepper them as they chase? Greta, Orgar and myself meet them when they close. Something like this?"
F 8 R 11 W 9 | hp 103/103 | Init +7 | Perc +20, +1 vs traps | Effects: Endure elements (vs. cold), Fly, Shield, Greater Darkvision Female Elf Rogue 3/Evoker (Admixture) 3/Arcane Trickster 8 | AC 23, T 14, F 20, CMD 19 |
Duardlara's plan would be to snipe from hiding, probably with another ranged attacker or two, and fall back. If possible, do it again. Draw them back to Helgash and other heavy hitters in a tunnel that's hopefully not terribly easy for them to move in. But yes, her preferred tactic would be go get the party started.
You guys will get the surprise round as well as the first round...
The hall way is 10ft wide leading into the room.
With a plan in place Orgar casts vanish on himself as Jetro and Duardlara sneak up and fire s single shot each. The rest wait back for them to draw the giants out.
F 8 R 11 W 9 | hp 103/103 | Init +7 | Perc +20, +1 vs traps | Effects: Endure elements (vs. cold), Fly, Shield, Greater Darkvision Female Elf Rogue 3/Evoker (Admixture) 3/Arcane Trickster 8 | AC 23, T 14, F 20, CMD 19 |
Duardlara nods at Orgar's plan. "Wait here, then." She gestures to a place on the wall where she and Jetro can identify so they don't run into the waiting gish warrior. "Greta, wait back a few steps - we want them to see you and to approach you, drawing them into Orgar's attack."
Whispering to Jetro, "Fire, then tactical retreat when they pursue. When Orgar and Greta engage - or if the giants don't pursue - let them have it."
She lines up a shot and lets loose as the archer does, then hiding and trying for another devastating attack.
Surprise Round
Under the affects of his Vanish spell, Orgar sneaks in behind one of the giants
stealth:1d20 + 5 - 5 + 20 ⇒ (11) + 5 - 5 + 20 = 31 Just under full speed (-5) and bonus for Vanish (+20)
Plan is to lash out at the giant he's behind just as the giants pay attention to the others.
Jetro starts the party with a solid shot into the first frost giant. Durardlara tries to follow suit but her aim is slightly off. Behind them the group readies to encounter the behemoths in hand to hand combat.
Since the surprise wore off Jetro beat a quick retreat behind the ranks of Helgash, Greta, and Cynehelm. Cynehelm hpcast a spell target the same giant with 3 rays of negative energy. The first misses but the last two drain the giant’s vitality. Orgar casts vanish as he tries to move behind them. Helgash casts bless on th party. Duardlara takes a position to snipe as the arrow strikes true.
Perception 2d20 ⇒ (18, 13) = 31 +10 each
The giants spot Duardlara but fail to see the invisible Orgar coming up behind them.
The giants themselves stay put as they pull large rocks from sacks at their hips. Judging by the size of the sack sad the rocks pulled you think they have another 5 rocks to throw. Each of them take a different target as a goes after Duardlara and the other Cynehelm.
Surprise Round
Orgar springs into action by attacking the giant he's behind with all-out spell combat
(two mellee attacks, followed by a spell, all at -2 to hit):
Seeing Orgar already engaged with an enemy, Greta does not hesitate, and feeling the divine magin bolstering her strength, she wades in, flanking the giant creature - "Let's do this then!" - she roars
Orgar swings with his trusty scimitar and lands a solid blow initially. He tries to follow up with another attack but just misses getting around the giants leathery hide. As he tries to summon his magic he catches sight of the giants massive axe and that causes him to incorrectly speak the necessary words as the spell fails.
Undeterred at the thrown boulder Jetro fires another pair of arrows with each of them striking true and bringing the giant to his knees.
Helgash casts a spell on Greta to protect her as he takes some of her damage. Emboldened by her lovers spell she charges forward with greataxe swinging and fells the one that has taken all of the damage.
The remaining giant roars in anger as he brings his greataxe around in a mighty swing trying to take Greta's head off in a single blow.
F 8 R 11 W 9 | hp 103/103 | Init +7 | Perc +20, +1 vs traps | Effects: Endure elements (vs. cold), Fly, Shield, Greater Darkvision Female Elf Rogue 3/Evoker (Admixture) 3/Arcane Trickster 8 | AC 23, T 14, F 20, CMD 19 |
I believe D'lara will regain 5 hp at Helgash's expense on her turn, is that correct? The elf steps back out of sight, per the original plan, but partially so she can lick her wounds for a moment.
And ready herself for a new sniping attack next round.
@ DM Variel: This is actually the first time I've got a crit with a flaming burst weapon.
I [u]think[/u] on a crit, it does 2d6+1d10 fire damage as part of that.
F 8 R 11 W 9 | hp 103/103 | Init +7 | Perc +20, +1 vs traps | Effects: Endure elements (vs. cold), Fly, Shield, Greater Darkvision Female Elf Rogue 3/Evoker (Admixture) 3/Arcane Trickster 8 | AC 23, T 14, F 20, CMD 19 |
Orgar wrote:
@ DM Variel: This is actually the first time I've got a crit with a flaming burst weapon.
I [u]think[/u] on a crit, it does 2d6+1d10 fire damage as part of that.
Barring some other special property, only accounting for flaming burst, it should double the base damage (thus 2d6) and add a small fireball (the 1d10) and your standard damage bonuses, some of which are doubled. I don't know where the extra 2d6 is coming from in your damage roll - I believe it might be extraneous.
@ Duardlara: I calculated 2d6+16 for the scimitar's critical damage alone.
The other 2d6+1d10 was for the fire damage from the critical.
After reading up on Flaming Burst and Critical hits, I wasn't sure if the critical fire damage was an extra 1d6+1d10 or 2d6+1d10.
Which could just be me with a distinct lack of caffeine in my bloodstream (as usual).
Anyway, (the ever omnipotent) DM Variel has the final say, of course!
F 8 R 11 W 9 | hp 103/103 | Init +7 | Perc +20, +1 vs traps | Effects: Endure elements (vs. cold), Fly, Shield, Greater Darkvision Female Elf Rogue 3/Evoker (Admixture) 3/Arcane Trickster 8 | AC 23, T 14, F 20, CMD 19 |
Of course. It’s his virtual table. The flaming property would provide 1d6 damage (only if activated) whether there is a critical hit or not - it is never multiplied. The flaming burst property (which includes the flaming property), provides 1d10 on a critical hit whether the flaming property is active or not. I was not including the damage from the flaming property because I didn’t assume it was active and didn’t go look.
There are few confusing rules I feel I have a good handle on - this is one, so I was just trying to provide some guidance. I’ll shut up about it now.
Fair enough. I just didn't find anything that explicitly said "...elemental damage is not multiplied on a critical hit".
But I probably wasn't looking in the right rules (there's just so many of them out there!)
Duardlara is right i this case as the extra d6 from flaming is not doubled on a crit. Typically extra dice are never multiplied like sneak attack. In this case the crit will do d6 +d10 Fire damage.
With a massive blow from Orgar followed by another blow and the addition of a shocking arrow the giant reels back in pain. Cynehelm takes the opportunity to heal Greta as Duardlara takes a sniping approach.
Roll20 / Male half-orc investigator (empiricist) 1/swashbuckler (inspired blade) 1 // Init +3; Senses darkvision 60 ft.; Perception +7 / AC 19, touch 14, flat-footed 15 (+5 armor, +3 Dex, +1 dodge) / hp 22/22 / Fort +5, Ref +10, Will +6
Well, apart from me, no one I think Cynehelm - there is nothing like preparation! ;)
"Well fought my friends" - Helgash congratulates his companions - "Lara, will you take a quick look at the door? In spite of the noise?" - then takes a brief moment to heal himself.
F 8 R 11 W 9 | hp 103/103 | Init +7 | Perc +20, +1 vs traps | Effects: Endure elements (vs. cold), Fly, Shield, Greater Darkvision Female Elf Rogue 3/Evoker (Admixture) 3/Arcane Trickster 8 | AC 23, T 14, F 20, CMD 19 |
Duardlara was still down 8 when the giant fell. I will leave it to our warrior healer as to the most efficient way to get us both to full.
Stowing her bow, the elf nods and moves to examine the door.
Disable Device vs. traps:1d20 + 16 + 1 ⇒ (8) + 16 + 1 = 25If she finds no trap, this would be applied to an attempt to unlock the door, if necessary, but without the extra +1.
