The City of Spiders (Inactive)

Game Master Choon

Greetings victi... Friends! I hope this proves to be an enjoyable experience for me-us! Us.

There are some things I'd like to say before this gets going.

1) I am very much a cooperative storyteller person. This goes double for the amount of people we are going to have around here. I don't have every little detail planned out. I don't have the whole house planned out even. I just have general events and the basics of the main NPC's (the Matron and her daughters at this point). If you need to interact with a minor NPC, I don't mind you doing so yourself and making stuff up as fits the scene you want to see played out. I may take them for a line or two to nudge the scene in a certain direction, I may not. We have enough creativity here to really make this a narrative derived from the many rather than depending exclusively on me, the GM.

2) Patience, sometimes. I'm going to be juggling more than a few things here even with narrative/environment/etc. help from youall. If I don't respond in a day or two, just poke me in discussion. I'll get around to figuring youall out. That being said, I am going to establish a 1/weekday except combat policy for this. The weekends will not be required and I will do my best to not have a combat on the weekends. However, it's probably going to happen eventually. Just saying. I'm also just saying that every group finds it's groove and this may end up with very different pacing than what I plan for in the beginning. I know of a PbP skull and shackles that did the whole AP in 3 months. We won't be that (my head would explode), but it is an example of just how varied the pacing can be.

3) How I run combat. I typically run what is sometimes called a "block" Init. I'll roll for everyone and determine who would most likely act first as a group, you or them. Then that group will go. Having individual Init with this many selectees would be just crazy. Within the block, I will generally follow a "first to post = first to act" standard. However, I reserve the right to tweak the order of things to make a more sensible and awesome round narrative.

4)Please, please, pretty please put your defensive stats and Init up in the race/class/that lines under your name. It makes resolving combat rounds soooo much easier when I don't have to open your sheet to see what your AC is.

5) Welcome. I'm glad you all are here. Let's have some fun, shall we?
Feel free to discuss relationships here if you wish to establish some of those before introducing yourselves in gameplay.

Well. *cough* Was excited to have joined, but now I'm a bit nervous now that I'm in.

I look forward to joining in with you all.

With that said, any other half-breeds feel like cosying up with other thin-bloods/half-breeds? Or perhaps, would one of the noble pure-blooded drow like to establish a working partnership. Already have it in the backstory that I'm helping push someone else up the ladder, can easily be shifted a bit.

Edit: I think I got the defensive stat block in there right. If I messed something up, please correct me. I'm a bit new to the forum.

Checking in. ;)

Vicalan is a half breed but he is a bit shifty to put it lightly and hard to read, how else has he lived so long all things considered. So he could be someone's ally but hardly be cozy with anyone that has not proven themselves loyal to him. A trait he would find very surprising from anything with drow blood, mixed or otherwise.

Hello all.

I am Standard Eastern time. I work M-F 630a-530p. My good rping posting will be happening after work but i do find a minute or two (like now) while at work to post something...err..short.

Greetings to youall. I am also EST and post small bits pretty regularly, but try to make a larger post in the evenings, like Nathaniel here.

Hello! I'll make sure to get a proper alias up and running now, soon-ish : )

(Also there were some minor things that I didn't finish on Saeras so that I could adjust to what the party had. Now to figure out what that is :P)

Checking in. ;)

Vicalan is a half breed but he is a bit shifty to put it lightly and hard to read, how else has he lived so long all things considered. So he could be someone's ally but hardly be cozy with anyone that has not proven themselves loyal to him. A trait he would find very surprising from anything with drow blood, mixed or otherwise.

Hmm. What common grounds could the Lawful Neutral find with the Chaotic Evil? How about a sympathetic thin-blood to help you around the city? Maybe take care of a few assassins on your behalf? Half-breeds have to stick together after all?

Hello all.

I am Standard Eastern time. I work M-F 630a-530p. My good rping posting will be happening after work but i do find a minute or two (like now) while at work to post something...err..short.

I'm in the eastern zone as well, and will be doing just that. Probably a post in the morning, maybe one during lunch, and the rest during evenings much the same as you.

Hmm, a slave. That's a tricky one. Not sure how much Calas would associate with a slave since he is trying to gain rank and prestige. The relationship depends on the type of slave too. Some slaves will over-hear things easily, and playing the information game is fun. Though, fighting side-by-side to crack a few heads isn't too bad either. What say you Nathaniel?

Hello! I'll make sure to get a proper alias up and running now, soon-ish : )

(Also there were some minor things that I didn't finish on Saeras so that I could adjust to what the party had. Now to figure out what that is :P)

And an ambitious commoner, your backstory makes an easier tie in to Nathaniel's than mine. But, I've a feeling Lessah and Calas could get along swimmingly. This could tie into the idea I had for Nathaniel above. Slaves can hear things, useful things, who better to know what the slaves hear than the slave handler himself?

There! Now I'll just have to fill in the status bar and dot properly, then I should be able to start making connections with people : )

(Not 100% on the image though, I may have to play around with it a bit.)

Just so everyone knows, you can post in gameplay, then delete your post. The campaign will then show up in your campaigns tab for easy tracking.

To make it easier on everyone, this is a the role call.

Ok. I think I got everyone. I'm not sure if Hakk is the correct one, but he's the closest I could find to "Hakko", even if he was built by Jeremy and not Johnothan?

Looks like we have a fairly well rounded group. We've a bit of overlap even. Though, I'm not sure we have anyone who can heal us between engagements. So back to back engagements could be interesting.

I can see some potential hooks between backstories too.

Edit: I should also settle my item selection.

Hello all, sorry I'm late checking in... I fell asleep. I'm on puppy patrol til he gets housebroken, so I'm not getting a lot of sleep of late.

Needless to say, but I'm really looking forward to rping with you all. Azzra'el is a Kewadin, but pretty low in the pecking order, being a male and all. Willing and able to get to know anyone, half-blood or full, noble or commoner, master or slave. Being a neutral soul, he's got no qualms about working with anyone as long as he maintains his own personal balance.

This seems like it's going to be LOTS of fun... and while I've read just ONE Drizzt book (the first), it was many many decades ago, and since then, I've been away from forgotten realms since Living City shut down, so please excuse me any faux pas I might make about Faerun or Menzo...

@Our "late" friend - I wouldn't say you have to apologize for checking in less then 3 hours after the announcement. If that is going to be our standard I'll be apologizing alot given I'm on GMT +1 :P

@Role Call - Nice : )

@Healing - I guess we could splunge for a Cure Light Wounds wand, as is tradition?

Or the slightly more evil brand; Infernal Healing.

@Healing - I guess we could splunge for a Cure Light Wounds wand, as is tradition?

Or the slightly more evil brand; Infernal Healing.

I am one for tradition, but I like the infernal healing option more. (And not just because a cure light wounds wand would have the opposite of the intended affect on me...)

It seems as if my first attempt to thin the herd has been foiled :P

Yeah, Infernal Healing does have some advantages. Mainly that it is always 10 hp healed as opposed to 1d8+1. On the other hand, it takes a full minute (which can be annoying if you are in a hurry; say trapped in a warehouse full of enemies ... :P).

I guess I should have spent some points in umd... but we do have folks who can use at least the infernal healing wand. Otoh, at what cost? muahaha...

It seems as if my first attempt to thin the herd has been foiled :P

Yeah, Infernal Healing does have some advantages. Mainly that it is always 10 hp healed as opposed to 1d8+1. On the other hand, it takes a full minute (which can be annoying if you are in a hurry; say trapped in a warehouse full of enemies ... :P).

Hey, you're the one who decided that walking in was a good idea. :P

Hey, you're the one who decided that walking sneaking* in was a good idea. :P

*Sorta ... :P

Step this way, good drow. We have the fastest route to prestige: the glatorial area!

If only you had your very own champion!

....

I think I just ninja'ed Azzra'el or did I drow him? ;P

Thanks for the role call list and thanks for including me into this fracas.

About me I am in the central time zone but work midnights, I dont believe in sleep (my current sleep schedule is from 11am to roughly 2 pm +/- an hour or so). can post from work and all in all look forward to playing with you all.

He is a house guard, all houses have them, A mook if you will (a rather better than average mook but still He would no doubt be considered expendible). But he is looking to upgrade his status, because lets face it, being expendible in drow society inevitibly leads to your expense... something he would very much like to put off for as long as possible.

Backstory wise, he was a part-time lover for a higher ranked officer within the guards until one of the noble sorts decided he was suitible entertainment for now.

If one of my lesser noble playing friends decides that was them great, if its random un named (yet) npc's great. Im flexible... (no really, high Dex :) )

lol... Azzra'el has had his share of dalliances and not particular regarding gender... I'd be available as a lesser noble... but perfectly understandable if you prefer females. they are higher ranked usually. :) (He is very discreet about his affairs though so as not to embarrass his wife)

Oh im common enough i didnt think his preferences mattered? Im sure he is positionally fluid, while he would prefer females he is a survivialist.

With your permission would It be allowable to perhaps design a little laboratory/spell componant workship space within the bowels of the house.

Being a house who likes its mages I can imagine it would exist and all. and with their being some noble arcane users (even if male) I cant imagine they want to waste their time gathering what they need eh?

Give it an NPC in charge and the like, perhaps some mini servant minion names.

@Mourn'draxil
Someone has to get my spirit of wine, I may pick up other spell enhancement components over time too. :)

Hello to everyone and thanks for accepting me to the GM :) This is baticeer (my name is Marie but you can call me Bat if you like -- and if you know what "baticeer" is a reference to you win a prize) with my character Vantrag. She is a noble member of the house but is kind of a weirdo because she is interested in alchemy and arcane magic instead of being a priestess.

I need to go read about everyone else's characters so I can figure out what our relationships would be :o

Also, I am pretty new to Pathfinder as a system so apologies in advance if I make any rules mistakes or have to ask for help on mechanical things, haha. Which reminds me! Can someone tell me if arcane spell failure chance interferes with drinking alchemist extracts? My assumption is no but I am not really sure from looking at the rules.

Hello to everyone and thanks for accepting me to the GM :) This is baticeer (my name is Marie but you can call me Bat if you like -- and if you know what "baticeer" is a reference to you win a prize) with my character Vantrag. She is a noble member of the house but is kind of a weirdo because she is interested in alchemy and arcane magic instead of being a priestess.

I need to go read about everyone else's characters so I can figure out what our relationships would be :o

Also, I am pretty new to Pathfinder as a system so apologies in advance if I make any rules mistakes or have to ask for help on mechanical things, haha.

If you look at my post, just a bit up, there's a role call with a link to everyone's characters.

And just realized I never actually described my character.

Calas is a dhampir, with the added fluff of having a drow as a mother. He's the son of one of the Matron's daughters, but in terms of ranking he's pretty low. He's a friendly sort, carries around candy for children (and no, it's not to lure them in for their blood, and typically does what his mother asks of him.

I never actually named Calas's brother and mother in his backstory, so Choom, I hope you don't mind if I use Neithe as his mother.

I guess we're siblings then... or at least half-siblings... works for me.

I guess we're siblings then... or at least half-siblings... works for me.

Actually, believe that is my mistake. Your description never says who your mother is, and my mind wanted to use the word "brother" for some reason. I think cousin is much more likely if you'd prefer.

Edit: Switched it to be more ambiguous.

I changed my background already to reflect our being brothers, lol

I changed my background already to reflect our being brothers, lol

Welp, we're commited now. There's no going back.

hehe... hi, bro!

hehe... hi, bro!

We just may want to distinguish between you and the brother in my background though... kinda almost killed him.

Also... Choom. Is it a stalagmite or a stalagtite? You said stalagmite, but you also say we are hanging above the market?

Step this way, good drow. We have the fastest route to prestige: the glatorial area!

If only you had your very own champion!
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"Champion...YEsssssss. Favored son Hakk will be House Champion!"

Sorry for the lateness of my arrival. Minor misunderstanding in the postings.

I think that makes Azzra'el and Calas my nephews? We'll need a family tree to keep everybody straight :P

Hello to everyone and thanks for accepting me to the GM :) This is baticeer (my name is Marie but you can call me Bat if you like -- and if you know what "baticeer" is a reference to you win a prize) with my character Vantrag. She is a noble member of the house but is kind of a weirdo because she is interested in alchemy and arcane magic instead of being a priestess.

Anagram of Beatrice, as in Beaudelaire from Lemony Snickets fame... and also means trainer of bats... what do I win?

Hi Marie

Anagram of Beatrice, as in Beaudelaire from Lemony Snickets fame... and also means trainer of bats... what do I win?

Hi Marie

Well if you knew it without looking it up or anything... then you just win my immediate appreciation for being a fan of my favorite book series ever :P I am such a big Lemony Snicket fan that I got the VFD tattoo on my ankle, haha.

wow... you really are a fan... And my knowledge is pretty much mostly second hand... but still, I knew about the anagram of Beatrice and guessed at the bat trainer... I did have to look up the Beaudelaire name though. I guess I don't win then, but it's still a cool name.

I will work on an official background(I deleted mine by accident before I saved it) but these are the important bullet points for Phaenox:

1) The Shraen family are a strong, but small bloodline that are cousins to the Kewadin. They never had the numbers or true power to try and seize a house for themselves, so instead they have allied themselves to Kewadin. Using their unique innate spells, they make perfect hunters of those who would dare oppose Lolth.

2) Phaenox is a slick talking, charismatic member of the Shraen family, the third born of his parents. His older sister, Tajila, is a warrior priest of Lolth, and is the eventual heir of the family. His older brother, Xar, is the family's head of security.

3) A year and a half ago, the trio was responsible for taking down a small cell of Vhaeraun worshipers who had taken over a minor outpost near the holdings of Kewadin.

4) Phaenox wishes to one day rid all of Menzoberranzan of false worshipers and adherents of enemy faiths to the Spider Queen.

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I too am EST and can generally post whenever. I should have no problem with the 1/day requirement either.

Probably need to do this sometime. Need to roll my Numerological Gift
3d6 ⇒ (1, 1, 6) = 8

one of the things I put in my background is Vantrag has a husband and it's basically a political marriage arranged to make a tie with another noble family... Phaenox, do you want to be my husband maybe? It would make sense with your family being allies of Kewadin. Plus we're both sneaky types class-wise so we match in that way hehe.

There is great prestige n
Marrying...err...not so muching a champion!
I need a sponser...lol.

A sponsor you say?

Hmm - while it is tempting to have someone bleed for my amusement - one of the nobles might do better.

But if you need something, maybe a nicer cell, we can probably work something out in return for some later favours. ...

Minor Note: I'm guessing poor Saeras may not actually be in charge of *all* the house servants, I'm imagining him more as a middle manager type. For now :P

Hello to everyone and thanks for accepting me to the GM :) This is baticeer (my name is Marie but you can call me Bat if you like -- and if you know what "baticeer" is a reference to you win a prize) with my character Vantrag. She is a noble member of the house but is kind of a weirdo because she is interested in alchemy and arcane magic instead of being a priestess.

I need to go read about everyone else's characters so I can figure out what our relationships would be :o

Also, I am pretty new to Pathfinder as a system so apologies in advance if I make any rules mistakes or have to ask for help on mechanical things, haha. Which reminds me! Can someone tell me if arcane spell failure chance interferes with drinking alchemist extracts? My assumption is no but I am not really sure from looking at the rules.

Extracts can be drank without arcane penalty. Technically alchemists are not considered arcane.

A few things I should clear up sense it seems I forgot not everyone is familiar with FR.

Sshamath is a drow city in the underdark. It is the only one run by drow males and ruled by wizards. They give lip service to Lolth but everyone knows her and her priestesses have little power there. It is also one of the most magically powerful cities and complete markets in the underdark if not the world.

The Jaezred Chaulssin are a secret organization of assassins from the city of Chalssin. Their main goal is to rid the drow of their ties to Lolth by any means.

I think those are the hardest to catch if your not familiar with the setting. Let me know if I am mistaken or need to explain something, I am a bit rusty on FR myself having been years sense I played it.

@Vantrag
As long as it does not have somatic components, arcane failure has no effect. Being an alchemist means you just drink everything, only a free hand is required. In short no arcane failure for you, armor up. ;)

@Nathaniel
Don't know if your shooting for a noble sponsor but Vicalan is always open to allies and useful people. He cares nothing for race and such.

Nathaniel seems to be in a predicament at the moment....help.

Wow, looks like were off to a good start! I go to sleep and 14 gameplay posts appear along with 20+ discussion. I like it. :)

Hope you dont mind my intro?

I figured it gives you a jumping off point for him.

The female drow could be a pc or npc?

Hope you dont mind my intro?

I figured it gives you a jumping off point for him.

The female drow could be a pc or npc?

Mother severance has a new plaything?!!

It is quite interesting, but I think we are actually quite low on female drows that are nobles ...

Menzoberranzan, the City of Spiders and home to Lolth's chosen, the Drow, had six for thousands of years in the northern Underdark. It's master race is inherently evil and conniving. The only thing more deadly than openly opposing them is actually being them.

Welcome to house Kewadin, 15th House of Menzoberranzan. You are small, but ambitious. Your Matron, Lady Vantgree, is leading your house well. From your fort in a stalagmite hanging above the city you plan and plot and backstab (sometimes literally).

Character Creation

Starting Level: 3rd
Stats: 20 point buy
NOTE: The [url=http://www.d20pfsrd.com/bestiary/monster-listings/humanoids/drow-common/drow-noble?vm=r] Drow Noble for player characters is available, but your point buy will be reduced to 5 points should you use it.
Classes All Paizo classes allowed. Summoners must be unchained. Other unchained allowed.
Alignment: Any, but you will need to be smart about it. No "lawful-stupid". Your character must be willing to work for the glory of a Drow noble house.
Skills Standard plus background skills from unchained.
Traits 2. Campaign traits provisionally accepted provided they fit with the character. One flaw is available in exchange for a third trait.
Wealth: Rolled
Health Max for first level. 1/2 +1 for subsequent levels
Fluff
Things you need are:
Who you character is in house Kewadin (can't be the immediate heir or other ranking member. You're lvl 3), a description of their appearance and personality, and their goals and ambitions (which you totally have).

I intend to post at least once a day.
Recruitment will go until the 15th.
I intend to recruit 4 to 6 players.

dotting.

I will work up a fighter, I believe.

Footsoldier trying to make good and advance his position, ready to take on the shady ops and dangerous jobs for the house.

Wealth, rolled? It hought that was only for 1st level

A third level character has a starting wealth of 3000gp, how do you mean to roll wealth for someone of that level?

Rolling up a Rogue, going to Assassin.

I would love to play a cleric of the Spider Queen. I will work on her this weekend.

I wrote that before I decided on third level. Please disregard.

I have a few concepts in mind, will give it some thought and see what else is being submitted.

very much the dot! very much...

DBH here with my Drow Rogue.

I haven't worked out her complete backstory yet, but here is the basic theme.

Let me know if you have any questions or corrections.

Think ill go drow noble. Oracle.
Will get a build out soon =^^=

dot.

thinking:

drow or orc antipaladin. The orc would be much like warpriest, only an antipaladin. both would be dedicated to serving the whims of the cleric (probably House Matron or one of her daughters) that trained him as an antipaladin. goals would be to spread the dominance of his house across the underdark, perhaps commanding his own garrison and fort.

an intimidation-based warpriest (probably a half-orc, but maybe a drow)> Thinking if a non-drow, he was taken and broken to the faith. I had thought of him as a Kuthite on Golarion, but he could easily work as a worshiper of one of the drow gods, or Loviatar. sort of a warrior-slave (like the brawler), but he broke so hard he drank the kool-aid and wants to break others as he was broken into serving his dark gods and the church that clerics that broke him

a flesh-warping alchemist not really sure where I'm going with this one, but he's a mad scientist sort. He experiments on himself as much as others. He wants to establish himself in the lucrative fleshwarping/poisons/and drugs trade of the Underdark.

a brawler orc (kind of a slave warrior of the house.. he doesn't want to be freed he wants to become the best warrior of the House, and a truly prized and valued bodyguard. Maybe, he'd be prized enough to be fleshwarped and "gifted" with other "rewards".

Very tempted to make a cavern sniper =^^=
Maybe i should =^^=

weird question: are driders allowed?

What year is it? Also, what's the current religious situation in the city? Obviously, organized worship of anyone but Lolth is forbidden, but iirc simply following other gods could be treated pretty differently depending on time and place. At worst, some high priestess nearby could get a memo at any moment and set out to track you down and make you her next sacrifice to Lolth. At best, so long as you keep it to yourself, a fairly wide array of non-good gods is tolerated. What's Menzoberranzan like in that regard at this time?

I've made a drow magus... basic character is done, just need background and such... I've put up a link to the profile here and will fill in the last few remaining details shortly.

Finishing up my backstory for an Arcane Bloodline Drow Noble Sorcerer

Hmm. The only drow I ever played was Iraxae, although she was the eldest daughter of the matriarch, had the whole sibling rivalry thing going on with her sister. (The game was e6, so it made sense, level-wise.)

I migth revive her, maybe not. She maps pretty well to a savage technologist barbarian, actually.

Definitely going noble, either way.

weird question: are driders allowed?

I was going to ask this as well - or even if a slightly scaled down version would be permitted - Something like dropping the spell resistance and then still having like, 8 points for point by.

Re: Driders
I will look into it.

Re:religion
It depends on which Matron gets the memo. Lolth's is obviously the state religion, and trying to start a temple to anything or anyone else is a pretty effective form of suicide. However, if you keep it super quiet and low-numbers, you are likely to be ignored.

For ease of looking into it, here's the paizo drider race.

It goes +2str/dex/wis, +4 con for stats.

Although if we're using the Lolth of forgotten realms mythology(I think it was), driders are supposed to be complete and utter outcasts. And not in the fun 'Woe is me CG Ranger' way.

Since Lolth is involved I'm assuming this doesn't take place in Golarion. Forgotten Realms?

Re:religion
It depends on which Matron gets the memo. Lolth's is obviously the state religion, and trying to start a temple to anything or anyone else is a pretty effective form of suicide. However, if you keep it super quiet and low-numbers, you are likely to be ignored.

So the best possibility it is - individual worshippers of other evil and neutral gods are typically not pursued so long as they show no outward sign of their faith, nor establish any sort of organized groups. That works.

What about the date? 14th century had a number of very messy events, so it may be relvent to know if we're before, during or after at least.

This is more Forgotten Realms, yes. If you want to be a drider I'm ok with it. Use an 8 point buy. However, know that you're going to need one killer justification to explain why your not languishing on the edge of outcast society like your kin.

The date is something I'm still nailng down. I have read the drizzt books and the first two Spider War books, so I know things go down. However, your story won't be directly tired into those events and I'm not going to hold myself to a Canon I read over a decade ago. I'll try to keep it authentic.

dotting

Are Tieflings or Dhampir allowed?

This will be the Nine's entrant,

Probably going into some form of arcane archer sort of build at the moment fighter 2/ wizard 1.

I need to work on the equipment and the backstory, I have a rough idea just have a Birthday party for my neice to go to before i can finish.

Dot.

May a tiefling's Fiendish Heritage be picked deliberately, or is it random only?

May a tiefling's Fiendish Heritage be picked deliberately, or is it random only?

Yknow good question: you can pick one of the different packaged blood types, but none of random abilities off of the list same holds true for aasimar.

Tieflings and Dhampir are allowed as long as you are aware that all such creatures are second class citizens at best.

Pre packaged types are ok. The d100 list is available, but I will roll it for you should you wish to use it.
Sorry if that seems controlling, but I've been burned by that list before

Hmm hmm hmm.

Forgotten Realms + Drow + Choon. I don't think I can resist that combo, I'll have to tinker a bit and come up with a submission.

Right now I'm thinking Mesmerist - but they have so much awesome stuff I might end up with decision paralysis and change ...

That is perfectly understandable.
I will make a drow Antipaladin armed with a scimitar.

Going for some sort of ranged exotic weapon (heavy repeating crossbow) specialist with poison and alchemical crafting, and some wizardy magic (cause Drow,)

What about that half drow race that is born from fiends? Dagoth or something I think.

Tavarokk wrote:

May a tiefling's Fiendish Heritage be picked deliberately, or is it random only?

Yknow good question: you can pick one of the different packaged blood types, but none of random abilities off of the list same holds true for aasimar.

Sorry! I thought I was answering my own game! Oh my gosh! So sorry

What about that half drow race that is born from fiends? Dagoth or something I think.

Never heard of it. Link?

My internet is still down. Hopefully by tomorrow it will be back up. Then ill be able to post it then

He is referring to this, they are called Draegloth. I will have to look through my books to see if I can dig up the template for you(if they have one as I don't remember off the top of my head). Are you considering drow dragons or half drow dragons while your at it? :)

I am thinking of submitting a drow mage of some sort, maybe a eldritch knight. Are you open to any 3.5e conversions for prestige classes or PF only?

Edit- Draegloth are CR 5 creatures with 6 racial HD, so pretty sure they have no template. As far as 3.5e is concerned anyways.

Draegloth are as far as I remember half-fiends/half drow noble. Now do the math.

If we want to play a Drow noble, should we be female?

Also, are we allowed to be related at all to the Matron?

So, after some poking around I've settled on two concepts. Not sure which one I'll go for (or maybe even roll up both).

- Drow commoner bard. Retainer/agent/delicate errands girl, very skilled all around, with some utility spells to back her up, plus some buffs and debuffs. Scout, face, combat support, trapfinder.

- Tiefling ranger. Usually prefers to stay out of the city for obvious reasons, hunting denizens of the tunnels and joining the house forces when they head out to raid. Striker, scout.

With that in mind, two questions. First, @Choon, any preferences on drow bard favoured class bonus? Paizo drow bard has no class-specific options at all, paizo drow sorc has extra spell per level with particular descriptors of which bard has very few, 3pp drow bard has plain spells per level.

Second, would it be possible to take Bite attack as a character feature? Iirc, orcs get such an option, and going by racial features and lore tieflings can get pretty nasty fangs, too.

He is referring to this, they are called Draegloth. I will have to look through my books to see if I can dig up the template for you(if they have one as I don't remember off the top of my head). Are you considering drow dragons or half drow dragons while your at it? :)

I am thinking of submitting a drow mage of some sort, maybe a eldritch knight. Are you open to any 3.5e conversions for prestige classes or PF only?

Edit- Draegloth are CR 5 creatures with 6 racial HD, so pretty sure they have no template. As far as 3.5e is concerned anyways.

They had a racial splash page in Races of the Underdark? I think that's the book. But, ya, half demon/half drow

They had a racial splash page in Races of the Underdark? I think that's the book. But, ya, half demon/half drow

I got my info on them from Drow of the Underdark, page 110 if that helps.

Heya,
I had a couple of ideas for a Drow cavalier, one way going with an Order of the Cockatrice all glory for himself type, or an Order of the Scales, as an enforcer for the house.

My question is, how would class mounts fit in here? A horse or camel seems quite awkward - I suppose an archetype such as Daring Champion that exchanges the mount class feature could work as well.

Thanks for your consideration - this looks very interesting!

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He is referring to this, they are called Draegloth. I will have to look through my books to see if I can dig up the template for you(if they have one as I don't remember off the top of my head). Are you considering drow dragons or half drow dragons while your at it? :)

I am thinking of submitting a drow mage of some sort, maybe a eldritch knight. Are you open to any 3.5e conversions for prestige classes or PF only?

Edit- Draegloth are CR 5 creatures with 6 racial HD, so pretty sure they have no template. As far as 3.5e is concerned anyways.

They had a racial splash page in Races of the Underdark? I think that's the book. But, ya, half demon/half drow

As they are created specifically and intentionally by a high priestess I'm going to have to say no. Thanks for the idea though. ;)

Re: Half-etc.
You guys really don't like standard Drow, do you. :P I haven't heard of these half - variants, so give me some racial stats and I'll think about it

Noble = female? Not required, but the overwhelming majority are, yes.
And you can be related to the Matron, just keep your lvl3-ness in mind. You're not the big cheese here. :)

Drow Bardic racial= bonus spells of the darkness, evil, Chaos, charm, or Compultion types

Bite attack = of you can get it via conventional means I'm not against it.

Mounts = I'll look at replacing mounts with more appropriate options if they're chosen. Drow pretty commonly ride giant lizards.

Drow noble. May want to go Soul Drinker. Or plain Drow....
=^^=

Ooooh. Only now saw the drider thing.... i may want to go for that. Drider war cleric. Soul Drinker...

Cursed by Lolth, Embraced by War. Or was that her plan all along? Who knows what these deities are thinking anyway?

I'm interested, maybe Drow Sorcerer

Is this using some Dnd Rules for creation? I mean 3.5, 4 or 5?

Standard pathfinder generation except where detailed above. I don't know the other rule sets well enough to make them and Pathfinder play nice