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Considering expulsion is my first reaction, perhaps a bit of enlightenment on my part is in order.There is a precedent for not expelling a student for attempted murder, Headmaster. I believe that you and Professor Sunwake were the ones who initially taught me the meaning of mercy. And uncovered certain extenuating circumstances that were not at first obvious.
So Ace is a Hunter recruit who was fed misinformation to the point dumping hot water on an icecat was a good idea?
@Krys: Isn't this a blend of 3.5 and pathfinder?
Oh, it is. You're fine.
if searing spell functions like piercing cold
then it shcould have the same mechanic that if the creature has immunity and the subtype (fire, in this case) then it is still immune but knows the fire is off (senses it is more powerful/dangerous than normal)
no it still affects fire subtype, least from that link, but it doesn't have special effect on those with vulnerability either.
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Renkai: Space doesn't kill you nearly as fast as the movies say. There's no explosive decompression where you start bleeding from every orifice. The air would be torn from your lungs most likely, and your eyeballs might be pulled from their sockets... but beyond that, nothing much.
You don't even freeze that quickly, since you only disperse energy through blackbody radiation (emitting photons, usually as infrared light). In fact, spacesuits need a fairly rigorous cooling system, since you would overheat in there if left to your own devices.\
JUST SAYING.
Your circumstances were a bit different my dear, Champion of Madness and all.
Oh, and you aren't a sociopath :P
You couldn't have proved that back then. I am only saying that one should always investigate first. Also, my dear, I believe your assistance may be required in this matter. After all, all of this debate about magic and tech and whatnot becomes rather moot at that point since one cannot deceive Deception.
no it still affects fire subtype, least from that link, but it doesn't have special effect on those with vulnerability either.if searing spell functions like piercing cold
then it shcould have the same mechanic that if the creature has immunity and the subtype (fire, in this case) then it is still immune but knows the fire is off (senses it is more powerful/dangerous than normal)
thats so much BS... the cold mages get shafted.... >_<
I CHOSE FROSTMAGE FOR A REASON!!! and now that reason is bypassed by 1 freaking feat that means I could have solved the.....(continues to rage for a while)
Oh dear. You're gonna make me ok this, aren't you :(
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Renkai: Space doesn't kill you nearly as fast as the movies say. There's no explosive decompression where you start bleeding from every orifice. The air would be torn from your lungs most likely, and your eyeballs might be pulled from their sockets... but beyond that, nothing much.
You don't even freeze that quickly, since you only disperse energy through blackbody radiation (emitting photons, usually as infrared light). In fact, spacesuits need a fairly rigorous cooling system, since you would overheat in there if left to your own devices.\
JUST SAYING.
FINALLY SOMEONE WHO KNOWS THIS **** OTHER THAN ME.. *clears throat* that is all, carry on.
Renkai: Space doesn't kill you nearly as fast as the movies say. There's no explosive decompression where you start bleeding from every orifice. The air would be torn from your lungs most likely, and your eyeballs might be pulled from their sockets... but beyond that, nothing much.
You don't even freeze that quickly, since you only disperse energy through blackbody radiation (emitting photons, usually as infrared light). In fact, spacesuits need a fairly rigorous cooling system, since you would overheat in there if left to your own devices.\
JUST SAYING.
You die from your own body boiling your inner liquids due to the lack of pressure on your skin we normally have from the atmosphere.
So-- it takes about 10 to 20 seconds. It is death though. We do not survive with bubbles of gases in our veins.
Cheers!
so 1.5 rounds instead of 1 round.... hmmmm seems like I was close enough....
both class and concept... sigh.... oh well....
Your circumstances were a bit different my dear, Champion of Madness and all.
Oh, and you aren't a sociopath :PYou couldn't have proved that back then. I am only saying that one should always investigate first. Also, my dear, I believe your assistance may be required in this matter. After all, all of this debate about magic and tech and whatnot becomes rather moot at that point since one cannot deceive Deception.
I wrote that the teacher in Detention should use compassion first, but I think it was ignored. :)
Glad to see we think alike.
VAI! Go eat people, damn it! NOW!
Vai is spending a quiet morning with her meldanya, thank you!!
I'll eat people when I feel like it and no sooner, dammit!
Not the version of schorching spell i found. And I would change that one. Because it is stupid. Beyond words.
Your circumstances were a bit different my dear, Champion of Madness and all.
Oh, and you aren't a sociopath :PYou couldn't have proved that back then. I am only saying that one should always investigate first. Also, my dear, I believe your assistance may be required in this matter. After all, all of this debate about magic and tech and whatnot becomes rather moot at that point since one cannot deceive Deception.
I wrote that the teacher in Detention should use compassion first, but I think it was ignored. :)
Glad to see we think alike.
VAI! Go eat people, damn it! NOW!
wait I am Vai's roomie,
Vai Don't eat Timelords EVER!
Vai is spending a quiet morning with her meldanya, thank you!!
I'll eat people when I feel like it and no sooner, dammit!
I'm just not feeling the conviction.. you sound like some ninny school girl. I mean, look at your outfit too? WHY?
Go out with dragon body, baby! Clothing is for those lesser beings that need the protection of have shame to hide themselves.
Sheeesh.
Just trying to help, honest!
Free your inner self. It pains me to see you so intentionally limiting for no good reason.
You /know/ Fei is courageous enough to stay with you regardless of what you choose. It's love! AND he's the Champion of Courage.
Nothing to hold you back. Is there?
You aren't the only one feeling bad about frost mages.
thats so much BS... the cold mages get shafted.... >_<
I CHOSE FROSTMAGE FOR A REASON!!! and now that reason is bypassed by 1 freaking feat that means I could have solved the.....(continues to rage for a while)
I am a frost based Mage and I'm doing fine, but then I have two other specialities and a few tricks to fall back on,
And like I said, the piercing cold does double damage to those who already have vulnerability, if you have a similar ability it likely stacks, or at least it shouldThe fire one does not do that.
You know I think I'll stay out of the space argument.
You aren't the only one feeling bad about frost mages.
thats so much BS... the cold mages get shafted.... >_<
I CHOSE FROSTMAGE FOR A REASON!!! and now that reason is bypassed by 1 freaking feat that means I could have solved the.....(continues to rage for a while)I am a frost based Mage and I'm doing fine, but then I have two other specialities and a few tricks to fall back on,
And like I said, the piercing cold does double damage to those who already have vulnerability, if you have a similar ability it likely stacks, or at least it should
The fire one does not do that.
Read it again...
According to David's post... when I gain a handful of levels... if you are weak to cold...... take x4 damage =)
sounds good to me... considering I have 1 trick... cold damage... oooohhhhh....
wow....so unique I could quite possibly die of originality....[/sarcasm]
Vai is spending a quiet morning with her meldanya, thank you!!
I'll eat people when I feel like it and no sooner, dammit!
I'm just not feeling the conviction.. you sound like some ninny school girl. I mean, look at your outfit too? WHY?
Go out with dragon body, baby! Clothing is for those lesser beings that need the protection of have shame to hide themselves.
Sheeesh.
Just trying to help, honest!
Free your inner self. It pains me to see you so intentionally limiting for no good reason.
You /know/ Fei is courageous enough to stay with you regardless of what you choose. It's love! AND he's the Champion of Courage.
Nothing to hold you back. Is there?
Oh your just trying to get her to walk around naked. Wait! I agree you should just go with out cloths!
Hey DB3, any chance the Headmaster can show up to untangle my particular mess?
once I get a response to my note Me and you will go speak to him
See, Vai? Even the handsome water bender agrees!
That's two for two! 100% agreement.
I'm /certain/ we can find more too.
You are the only pure ice Mage I see here, I have a few ice based tricks, primarily my breath attack, but mostly I do curses, nasty ones too, just ask adon if you want a rant :)
Having a single focus is admirable, potent in the right circumstances, but you get into "when all you got is a hammer, all the worlds a nail" translation, if you have the one trick, that's what you use, like barbarians, they run at stuff and hit it, because that's pretty much all they do, they got dang good at it, you could diversify, or you could further specialize and become even better at your one truck
That reminds me I got something to reply to in gameplay tab, and this gives me an idea of what to post.
See, Vai? Even the handsome water bender agrees!
That's two for two! 100% agreement.
I'm /certain/ we can find more too.
No.
You are the only pure ice Mage I see here, I have a few ice based tricks, primarily my breath attack, but mostly I do curses, nasty ones too, just ask adon if you want a rant :)
Having a single focus is admirable, potent in the right circumstances, but you get into "when all you got is a hammer, all the worlds a nail" translation, if you have the one trick, that's what you use, like barbarians, they run at stuff and hit it, because that's pretty much all they do, they got dang good at it, you could diversify, or you could further specialize and become even better at your one truck
That reminds me I got something to reply to in gameplay tab, and this gives me an idea of what to post.
uhhh.... going to be leveling sorun to max level frost mage... going to be making my one trick so freaking dangerous that unless your immune... like tybalt/grim/you/krays/fei...(ugh....quits) i could actually do something.
But I /am/ naked!
*wearing cutoff jean-shorts*
Wait, krays and fei are immune?
Also, piercing cold would make that affect at least me and grim, we do not have the subtype.
According to David's post... when I gain a handful of levels... if you are weak to cold...... take x4 damage =)
sounds good to me... considering I have 1 trick... cold damage... oooohhhhh....
wow....so unique I could quite possibly die of originality....[/sarcasm]
Your ability works without raising the spell level. Also, I would use the other version of searing spell. The one that makes ANY sense.
I think it's about time i go to bed.
Wait, krays and fei are immune?
Also, piercing cold would make that affect at least me and grim, we do not have the subtype.
Immune to what?
Krays has a black dragon's immunities, and some from being the champion of death (immunity to harmful necromantic effects, or the abilities of undead, and pretty much a permanant death ward.)Which do you have questions about?
Wait, krays and fei are immune?
Also, piercing cold would make that affect at least me and grim, we do not have the subtype.
Immune to what?
Krays has a black dragon's immunities, and some from being the champion of death (immunity to harmful necromantic effects, or the abilities of undead, and pretty much a permanant death ward.)Which do you have questions about?
the bolded section is why I said that
They don't all have immunity to cold, it's just fairly common.
Ahh ok. Yeah. Kinda hard to get taken seriously as the Champion of Death, then get charmed by a vampire, or strength drained by a wraith, etc.
Oh... apparently I misread... Krays doesnt have undead traits?
Ahh ok. Yeah. Kinda hard to get taken seriously as the Champion of Death, then get charmed by a vampire, or strength drained by a wraith, etc.
Hey--
Vampires and other undead templated creatures do not equal 'Death', sometimes.
Plus, those enchantment abilities -- aren't related to negative energy stuffs.
Open mind here!
:)
Nope I am not undead.
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Your ability works without raising the spell level. Also, I would use the other version of searing spell. The one that makes ANY sense.According to David's post... when I gain a handful of levels... if you are weak to cold...... take x4 damage =)
sounds good to me... considering I have 1 trick... cold damage... oooohhhhh....
wow....so unique I could quite possibly die of originality....[/sarcasm]
A link or spoiler for that feat would be helpful. When you are rested, of course.
Okay, for the record... Krays is removed from the list of people I cannot Popcicleize... =)
Ahh ok. Yeah. Kinda hard to get taken seriously as the Champion of Death, then get charmed by a vampire, or strength drained by a wraith, etc.Hey--
Vampires and other undead templated creatures do not equal 'Death', sometimes.
Plus, those enchantment abilities -- aren't related to negative energy stuffs.
Open mind here!
:)
Doesn't matter. If the ability they use is due to the power they gained from becomming undead, I am immune to it. If a Vampire mage throws a fireball at me, I'm not immune.
He means the one that works like
( Frostburn, p. 49)
[Metamagic]
Your cold spells are so cold that they can damage creatures normally resistant or immune to cold.
Prerequisite
Benefit
You can only apply this metamagic feat to spells with the cold descriptor. Piercing cold spells are so horribly cold that they are capable of damaging creatures normally unharmed by or resistant to cold. Piercing cold spells completely ignore any resistance to cold a creature possesses, bypassing this resistance and dealing damage to the target as if it did not possess any resistance to cold at all. They are still entitled to whatever other defenses the attack allows (such as saving throws and spell resistance).
Creatures normally immune to cold can be damaged by piercing cold spells as well. Piercing cold spells deal half damage to these creatures (or one-quarter on a successful saving throw). For example, Mialee casts a piercing cold cone of cold at a night hag, a creature normally immune to cold. She makes her level check to penetrate the night hag's spell resistance, but the night hag makes her Reflex save against the spell. Mialee rolls the dice, and her cone of cold deals 42 points of cold damage; since the night hag made her save, the damage is halved to 21 points. This damage is then halved again (since the night hag is normally immune to cold), and 10 points of cold damage are actually dealt to the night hag, who is both shocked and enraged at this unexpected turn of events.
Creatures with the cold subtype can tell that a piercing cold spell is colder than normal, but they remain undamaged by the attack.
Creatures with the fire subtype who are damaged by a piercing cold spell take double normal damage instead of the usual +50%.
A piercing cold spell uses up a spell slot one level higher than the spell's actual level.
Particularly the bolded section
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Even if you were you would just get
Undead are immune to death effects, disease, mind-affecting effects (charms, compulsions, morale effects, phantasms, and patterns), paralysis, poison, sleep, stun, and any effect that requires a Fortitude save (unless the effect also works on objects or is harmless). Undead are not subject to ability drain, energy drain, or nonlethal damage. Undead are immune to damage or penalties to their physical ability scores (Strength, Dexterity, and Constitution), as well as to fatigue and exhaustion effects. Undead are not at risk of death from massive damage.
no where in there does it say cold immunity
Neither grim nor Dave have the cold subtype, Dave has the outsider, native dragon-blooded subtype, and grim has the undead, outsider, evil native, but neither of them have the cold subtype.
Edit: look at the fire subtype part, do you know how many firebirds are here, do you know what subtype they are ;)