| Krays |
Okay, for the record... Krays is removed from the list of people I cannot Popcicleize... =)
I can still become ethereal at will ;)
And summon some truly horrific shit.That reminds me, I think if Ephebe is ok with it, I may summon up H'tor again for a day so he can meet our kids, after they hatch.
If he hasn't reincarnated by now.
<shakes fist at his boss>
| icehawk333 |
Neither grim nor Dave have the cold subtype, Dave has the outsider, native dragon-blooded subtype, and grim has the undead, outsider, evil native, but neither of them have the cold subtype.
Edit: look at the fire subtype part, do you know how many firebirds are here, do you know what subtype they are ;)
Oh well. Get over it. Fre birds heal from fire. Even scorching flames- on a point for point basis.
| icehawk333 |
I also deal x2 damage to fire subtype anyway because I am a water elementalist... :) x2+x2=x4 :p fire subtype is all I can bother...
And Krays wouldnt die... Ephebe would melt the 8ft thick walls of Ice in a round... :P
Both say *2 instead of *1.5 If i am not mistaken. That means- it doesn't stack, or, it probobly does 2.5 times. My thoughts on that.
| Mithros Phoebus |
Might even heal 1.5x more from a scorching spell.
I'm willing to test that theory.
| David.De'Foul |
I also deal x2 damage to fire subtype anyway because I am a water elementalist... :) x2+x2=x4 :p fire subtype is all I can bother...
And Krays wouldnt die... Ephebe would melt the 8ft thick walls of Ice in a round... :P
do you really expect to be able to beat krays... Especially if ephebe is able to help?????
You may be shooting a little high.| Krays |
I like this kid.
| Settro |
I could trap krays for a while. And bone shatter him. Over and over.
| Krays |
Even without my mate, good luck with that.
| Settro |
Even without my mate, good luck with that.
Force barrier. Oh, and antimagic. godlings can cast through antimagic. Oh, and 15d6 DMG save for half and fatigued... Exausred if save is failed. Overall, he can pond almost anyone in a 1on1 fight. More... Not so much. Only thing i see as a problem against you is your scythe. That... Is an issue. A huge issue, at that.
| Sheess |
Krays wrote:Even without my mate, good luck with that.Force barrier. Oh, and antimagic. godlings can cast through antimagic. Oh, and 15d6 DMG save for half and fatigued... Exausred if save is failed. Overall, he can pond almost anyone in a 1on1 fight. More... Not so much. Only thing i see as a problem against you is your scythe. That... Is an issue. A huge issue, at that.
anyone you say? I can B-slap a wall of force down on a nat 2 strength check... [toothy grin] lets rumble smear spot on the ground... My SR is over 58 and my DR is 15/- 15/magic
| Dom Waverider |
I also deal x2 damage to fire subtype anyway because I am a water elementalist... :) x2+x2=x4 :p fire subtype is all I can bother...
And Krays wouldnt die... Ephebe would melt the 8ft thick walls of Ice in a round... :P
Are you wanting to fight them or something? If so why? If not why are you bothering complaining about this? They are not stealing your thunder and they are suppose to be stronger being they are teachers.
| Settro |
Settro wrote:Krays wrote:Even without my mate, good luck with that.Force barrier. Oh, and antimagic. godlings can cast through antimagic. Oh, and 15d6 DMG save for half and fatigued... Exausred if save is failed. Overall, he can pond almost anyone in a 1on1 fight. More... Not so much. Only thing i see as a problem against you is your scythe. That... Is an issue. A huge issue, at that.anyone you say? I can B-slap a wall of force down on a nat 2 strength check... [toothy grin] lets rumble smear spot on the ground... My SR is over 58 and my DR is 15/- 15/magic
Primordial wall of force. Not the same. Hp 160 force field. Oh, and against you? I can use my other weapons. Also, ALMOST anyone... And I could use my nastier tricks, if he ever decides to use a spear syringe...
| Krays |
And I can teleport at will. Once you reveal yourself as a threat, you won't just be fighting me.
But I will admit, if youve prepared an area and yourself sufficiently, and I wander into the trap, I'd be in trouble. I can be killed.
Once my wife turns back time and we're both aware of the threat, though, oops.
Yeah, I loves my scythe :P My badge of office, as it were.
| Settro |
And I can teleport at will. Once you reveal yourself as a threat, you won't just be fighting me.
But I will admit, if youve prepared an area and yourself sufficiently, and I wander into the trap, I'd be in trouble. I can be killed.Once my wife turns back time and we're both aware of the threat, though, oops.
Yeah, I loves my scythe :P My badge of office, as it were.
Never said you wouldn't win. I'd just be a hell of a fight. (Pun intended.)
| Monkeygod |
You do realize, that as the Champion of Death, its very possible he has a power similar to Vai's Prism Blast, aka a Death Ray??
and its also possible said Death Ray could bypass immunities to death effects and not allow a save, or have a very high one and then even if you pass you take a crap ton of damage.
| Krays |
Didn't mean to come off as superior or arrogant.
One of the things I like about Krays is he is very killable. He'd be no fun otherwise.
| Sheess |
Sheess wrote:Primordial wall of force. Not the same. Hp 160 force field. Oh, and against you? I can use my other weapons. Also, ALMOST anyone... And I could use my nastier tricks, if he ever decides to use a spear syringe...Settro wrote:Krays wrote:Even without my mate, good luck with that.Force barrier. Oh, and antimagic. godlings can cast through antimagic. Oh, and 15d6 DMG save for half and fatigued... Exausred if save is failed. Overall, he can pond almost anyone in a 1on1 fight. More... Not so much. Only thing i see as a problem against you is your scythe. That... Is an issue. A huge issue, at that.anyone you say? I can B-slap a wall of force down on a nat 2 strength check... [toothy grin] lets rumble smear spot on the ground... My SR is over 58 and my DR is 15/- 15/magic
the strength check to break a wall of force is 32 I get a +36 against anything in my way.... I get a +20 on any check to penatrate anything that gets between me and whatever I am hitting... so... what would the dc be for and extra 60 hp? 40? 45?
| Settro |
You do realize, that as the Champion of Death, its very possible he has a power similar to Vai's Prism Blast, aka a Death Ray??
and its also possible said Death Ray could bypass immunities to death effects and not allow a save, or have a very high one and then even if you pass you take a crap ton of damage.
It allows a save. There is no chance it wouldn't. Second, I can take the damage. Or put up antimagic. Oh, and my saves are all above +20. So long as you aren't mindless.
| icehawk333 |
Settro wrote:the strength check to break a wall of force is 32 I get a +36 against anything in my way.... I get a +20 on any check to penatrate anything that gets between me and whatever I am hitting... so... what would the dc be for and extra 60 hp? 40? 45?Sheess wrote:Primordial wall of force. Not the same. Hp 160 force field. Oh, and against you? I can use my other weapons. Also, ALMOST anyone... And I could use my nastier tricks, if he ever decides to use a spear syringe...Settro wrote:Krays wrote:Even without my mate, good luck with that.Force barrier. Oh, and antimagic. godlings can cast through antimagic. Oh, and 15d6 DMG save for half and fatigued... Exausred if save is failed. Overall, he can pond almost anyone in a 1on1 fight. More... Not so much. Only thing i see as a problem against you is your scythe. That... Is an issue. A huge issue, at that.anyone you say? I can B-slap a wall of force down on a nat 2 strength check... [toothy grin] lets rumble smear spot on the ground... My SR is over 58 and my DR is 15/- 15/magic
None. Can't deal extra. You are attacking an object.
| Krays |
You do realize, that as the Champion of Death, its very possible he has a power similar to Vai's Prism Blast, aka a Death Ray??
and its also possible said Death Ray could bypass immunities to death effects and not allow a save, or have a very high one and then even if you pass you take a crap ton of damage.
He doesn't have anything like that, or at least not yet.
His version of soul jar is super potent though, and does bypass immunities.One of his other abilities is to stave off death for others. He can prevent death for a time, so he can cast ressurection.
Then there's the abilty to summon or create cool shit like a dracolich graveknight wraith vampire lord...blending undead templates that are normally incompatable.
| Sheess |
Sheess wrote:None. Can't deal extra. You are attacking an object.Settro wrote:the strength check to break a wall of force is 32 I get a +36 against anything in my way.... I get a +20 on any check to penatrate anything that gets between me and whatever I am hitting... so... what would the dc be for and extra 60 hp? 40? 45?Sheess wrote:Primordial wall of force. Not the same. Hp 160 force field. Oh, and against you? I can use my other weapons. Also, ALMOST anyone... And I could use my nastier tricks, if he ever decides to use a spear syringe...Settro wrote:Krays wrote:Even without my mate, good luck with that.Force barrier. Oh, and antimagic. godlings can cast through antimagic. Oh, and 15d6 DMG save for half and fatigued... Exausred if save is failed. Overall, he can pond almost anyone in a 1on1 fight. More... Not so much. Only thing i see as a problem against you is your scythe. That... Is an issue. A huge issue, at that.anyone you say? I can B-slap a wall of force down on a nat 2 strength check... [toothy grin] lets rumble smear spot on the ground... My SR is over 58 and my DR is 15/- 15/magic
No...this is a strength check... It lets me break through a WALL OF FORCE with a pure strength check... so a primordial WALL OF FORCE would be subject to the exact same thing at a higher check...it comes from an epic prestige class called Legendary Dreadnought
| Settro |
Monkeygod wrote:You do realize, that as the Champion of Death, its very possible he has a power similar to Vai's Prism Blast, aka a Death Ray??
and its also possible said Death Ray could bypass immunities to death effects and not allow a save, or have a very high one and then even if you pass you take a crap ton of damage.
He doesn't have anything like that, or at least not yet.
His version of soul jar is super potent though, and does bypass immunities.
One of his other abilities is to stave off death for others. He can prevent death for a time, so he can cast ressurection.Then there's the abilty to summon or create cool s@&! like a dracolich graveknight wraith vampire lord...blending undead templates that are normally incompatable.
Antimagic= no summon.
Most overpowered godling thing? They can cast through antimagic, even thier own.
| Monkeygod |
Um...
Can people stop telling teachers what they can and can't do?
Its entirely possible they have abilities that make Wish look like Prestidigitation.
For example,
The teacher concept I have in mind absolutely has abilities that are far beyond the norm. I'm sure most of them do. Same with Champions, to a lesser degree.
| Settro |
Is is not a wall of force. That was just the easiest reference.
It is treated as a object of 20hp*spell level used and 1 hardness*spell level used.
It has the force descriptor. It is a spell all it's own, however.
| Krays |
Krays wrote:Monkeygod wrote:You do realize, that as the Champion of Death, its very possible he has a power similar to Vai's Prism Blast, aka a Death Ray??
and its also possible said Death Ray could bypass immunities to death effects and not allow a save, or have a very high one and then even if you pass you take a crap ton of damage.
He doesn't have anything like that, or at least not yet.
His version of soul jar is super potent though, and does bypass immunities.
One of his other abilities is to stave off death for others. He can prevent death for a time, so he can cast ressurection.Then there's the abilty to summon or create cool s@&! like a dracolich graveknight wraith vampire lord...blending undead templates that are normally incompatable.
Antimagic= no summon.
Most overpowered godling thing? They can cast through antimagic, even thier own.
You're assuming I have to use magic to summon them or create them. I also have a staff that houses soul energy that I can burn in an anti-magic zone. Keep the ideas coming though...
| Settro |
Vriskra the shantak wrote:You're assuming I have to use magic to summon them or create them. I also have a staff that houses soul energy that I can burn in an anti-magic zone. Keep the ideas coming though...Krays wrote:Monkeygod wrote:You do realize, that as the Champion of Death, its very possible he has a power similar to Vai's Prism Blast, aka a Death Ray??
and its also possible said Death Ray could bypass immunities to death effects and not allow a save, or have a very high one and then even if you pass you take a crap ton of damage.
He doesn't have anything like that, or at least not yet.
His version of soul jar is super potent though, and does bypass immunities.
One of his other abilities is to stave off death for others. He can prevent death for a time, so he can cast ressurection.Then there's the abilty to summon or create cool s@&! like a dracolich graveknight wraith vampire lord...blending undead templates that are normally incompatable.
Antimagic= no summon.
Most overpowered godling thing? They can cast through antimagic, even thier own.
Oh, I could, but I don't have all day. And fleshcrafting, in a Synge. Fleshcrafting your arms into something useless? Oh, too easy.
| Sheess |
Is is not a wall of force. That was just the easiest reference.
It is treated as a object of 20hp*spell level used and 1 hardness*spell level used.
It has the force descriptor. It is a spell all it's own, however.
so it is like a wall... made of force... Not understanding how I cannot break it... Walls of Force cannot be damaged by physical means at all... but I have a way to break it.... physically... not quite understanding....
can someone explain what i am missing here? :/
| Settro |
And settro is likely to spar with teachers and champions for lack of a better partner. Not saying he'd win. Saying he'd be a hell of a fight.
| Krays |
Also godling? I get my power from a being that makes full blown gods look infantile.
Not bragging, just food for thought.
| "Ace" |
Its a "whose the best" contest,
Surprisingly, I'm not involved and am trying to end it quietly, as it were.
| Settro |
Settro wrote:Is is not a wall of force. That was just the easiest reference.
It is treated as a object of 20hp*spell level used and 1 hardness*spell level used.
It has the force descriptor. It is a spell all it's own, however.
so it is like a wall... made of force... Not understanding how I cannot break it... Walls of Force cannot be damaged by physical means at all... but I have a way to break it.... physically... not quite understanding....
can someone explain what i am missing here? :/
It has a set hp. You must deal 160 DMG. That how you break it. Even a normal person can not this wall with a sword. It's limit is it's duration of concentration +3 rounds.
| GM Fireclaw |
To paraphrase Syndrome:
"And when everyone's OP.... no one will be."
| Tybalt Baneko |
Oh ya? Well I'm the best at . . . . Nothing there aren't other people to do. . . .
| Settro |
Also godling? I get my power from a being that makes full blown gods look infantile.
Not bragging, just food for thought.
I know... Yet you can't cast in antimagic, can you? Oh, and I do have to make a CL check against myself at a +4.
| Monkeygod |
For the record, this is what Sheess is talking about:
Unstoppable (Ex)
At 1st level, the legendary dreadnought can concentrate his or her power, gaining a +20 bonus on his or her Strength check to break or burst a door or item once per day, plus one additional time per day every five levels thereafter. As a special use of this ability, the legendary dreadnought can attempt to break a wall of force (Strength DC 32, and the character applies his or her unstoppable bonus to this check as well). Alternatively, the legendary dreadnought can apply the +20 bonus to a single attack roll.
I see zero reason why he could not break your force effect, or really any force effect for that matter.
The DC might go up depending, but he should still be able to try to break it. Also, I would not make the DC super, uber high.