I think you moved more then that - I'm pretty sure you moved the entire fort! Have you been sneaking in a scroll of earthquake or something :P? (Wilhelm and I were positioned right infront of the gate, now we are several squares off to the west. Fixing it atm)
So Rowan charged in this round. I guess that means the rest of us are following him in? I was planning to sit outside for a round so we could move in together, but he's our ticket in.
If we all get inside then I could use the spell elsewhere if needed or swap it out for a summon nature's ally. I'm hoping that nat 20 convinces some of the bandits to reconsider fighting us though. I'm trying to conserve spells after that mass displacement I just casted. ;-)
Can we move across Z2b to Z4 or must I spend the next few rounds running through the ground level and then getting up to where the Stag lord is?
Once you go up the stairs you can see that the stone roof that is Z4 is accesable. Just treat the first squares between the Z4 and Z2b as being difficult
It's a problem I've faced with google maps. I'm sure there is a way to fix the map to the background but its a trick I don't know.
Felix, just FYI, Fascinate doesn't work if any combat is going on. Now might be a good time for the Enthrall, they're all in range, although because it has a full round casting time, you may not be able to get it off.
I'm going to wait a little longer for more people to post their actions. I realize its a weekend.
Lol, I meant enthrall. I don't have fascinate.
Anastacia cast monster summoning II not one. Can't get an elemental with Monster summoning I. Also lol. :/
Also we should move the Ooc clutter back over here. My bad.
Sorry. Was gonna post something else but I forgot that I wasn't playing my usual character type... Man I missed playing something besides Warrior Types.
@Masamura
Felix's description of the plan, and his reasons for it, came across to Sanita as his wanting to do a 'glorious frontal assault after warning enemy' which was the plan he agreed the day before was not good. So when he ordered everyone out, she hit his horse on the butt with her rapier, to make it rush forward with everyone else, as she felt if he was going to risk everyone else's life to further his own glory (bard songs, etc, like he said the first night) then he should risk the charge too.
She got him wounded, healed him up, and left him at the base of the wall with a warning to think about the pain in his shoulder next time he wanted to do a 'glory and death' plan.
Unfortunately it seems he moved out into the line of fire to cast a spell and got speared by multiple arrows. Which was not Sanita's plan. She'd hoped to draw fire on her and him away from everyone else, get to the base, heal up, and then leave him outside while everyone else assaulted, so he could see the carnage up close.
So she'll not be happy once she realizes what happened, and she'll almost certainly turn herself over to Wylliam and Dante.
Ah now it makes sense.
We still need to win this one. We can sort all that stuff out after.
Felix will definitely get to be in bard songs.
Lol, I don't think the man betrayed was quite how he thought he would make it in to the bards' tales. Nor the fool pincushion.
I thought it over. I think Sanita should stay. Should make for some good RP if she has to live with some guilt. Plus, she should be able to craft smokesticks. Smokesticks would have helped with the frontal attack. Could have saved Felix's life even.
Anyway... I don't think we would want to hang Sanita. She did not kill Felix directly. We would not want to banish her either, she is the sort of person who would end up fighting against us if she were sent away. Only thing to do, then, is keep her around. She can work to make amends, as best she can.
Well huh. I'm gone most of the day making pizza, drinking beer and watching a bad American football game with some friends and that happens. I'm sorry about your character Felix. I was liking the political dynamics that we had going on. He went out in a blaze of glory. :(
I'm in agreement with Anastacia on pretty much everything. It should be really interesting to see how Sanita deals with the guilt of having flogged our leader into the sights of the bandit lord. Maybe this will be a bit of a turning point/learning experience for her? Maybe she'll even start looking for some sort of redemption/atonement? Find out next week in the exciting continuation of... Kertuffle's Kingmaker.
Okay Wilhelm... No more T.V. for you.
I knew I was forgetting to read a Webcomic!
Of all the ones to forget about!
As I said before, it happens. I will just have to build a new character. Trying to choose between a Human swordlord for the heck of it and a Master summoner for the complete oddity of playing one.
Maybe an Evolutionist and go for the Mad Scientist Vibe and try to beat Sanita at being creepy?
Have each summoning be based on some freaky eldritch creature or horror monster.
Huh - poor Felix : / But alas! There is still hope! If you want - you could always use your horse for cover. It is a DC 15 Ride check that can be made as an intermediate action, and, if I can do math, would protect you from 19 of the damage dealt : )
The action is supposed to be used after attacks have been declared, but I'm not entirely sure if it is kosher to try after you know the results of the attack - but since this is pbp you really didn't have another chance ... If you wanna try - and Kertuffle is ok with it - don't forget your Christmas(/holiday) reroll!
Cover: You can react instantly to drop down and hang alongside your mount, using it as cover. You can't attack or cast spells while using your mount as cover. If you fail your Ride check, you don't get the cover benefit. Using this option is an immediate action, but recovering from this position is a move action (no check required).
If we'd had time and resources, Sanita could have done a lot for the attack. Smokesticks, cure potions, flasks, etc. All relatively cheaply too. Just needed time and resources.
Interesting idea Fharn, I'd forgotten about the ride rules for using your horse as cover. Nice catch. I agree in a PBP you almost have to let people retroactively use things like that.
Just saw that Felix didn't make it (again : /). And I'm out of straws to offer. However ... if I recall correctly - when looking trough your previous gameplay, before I joined - did you not have a pool of gp together ?
Reincarnate only costs 1280 gp (4th level spell, 7th level druid [4*7*10] + 1000gp in herbs) so that is still an affordable option if you want to stay 'Felix', Felix.
There is a hard limit of one week - but ... doable ! And you will probably not be human anymore either, but, who knows, you might turn into an adorable goblin or something ^^
on the matter:
My thoughts as a player: a reincarnation is kind of a bad idea, even if it just costs 128 gp each. We have to find a mid-level druid or witch, which will bring into play a character more powerful than us and set a precedent (we can’t come back to this guy every time someone dies, right?). Also, you might come back as a gnoll or a bugebear or a lizardfolk. Hilarious, but do you really want to do that?
About Sanita: since Havocprince doesn’t seem to be angry about it, I don’t think she should leave the group. The plan was bad from the beginning, even if Felix had calculated correctly the cleared space around the fort. But now we are in the middle of a battle without our main healer and without a chance of enthrall. I think Sanita staying in the group could lead to a wonderful roleplay op-portunity, if mdt is up for it.
Bej’s thoughts as a character: he won’t pitch in for the Reincarnation. Sorry, didn’t know Fe-lix that well. We are on a dangerous mission and he got unlucky. I’m sorry but it happens.
He will give an enormous amount of s**t to Sanita. As a worshipper of Erastil “order and commu-nity and knowing your place and whatnot” and as a chess player who hates wild cards, what she did was inexcusable, especially seeing what it led to. He won’t propose an execution nor a banishment (he needs someone to keep an eye on her), but the punishment he proposes will be steep.
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Havocprince, you know what could be fun? A Summoner whose Eidolon is the spirit of Felix.
Skilled diplomacy :p If anyone wants to speak dead Felix after combat we can get it all sorted out. From a roleplay standpoint I am fine coming back as a lizard man or such, would be interesting and I do have the cash. Although if I came back as a lizard man I would just refer to myself as a giant kobold. Quite honestly, looking back at posts I found the problem, I was all against assaulting the front till we gained that level and rowan started talking about warp wood. Got fixated and lost focus. Death tends to refocus people it seems, I highly recommend everyone does it at least once in their life. or half-elf is OK. I miss badger and horse being on the list. Had a rogue come back as a tabaxi once, now that was interesting.
Death tends to refocus people it seems, I highly recommend everyone does it at least once in their life.
Quite hard to avoid or so I heard ... How about we start a research fund for lichdom :P?
Since Bej posted his thoughts I thought I'll do the same.
As a player I have no problem with people coming back from death, sometimes even repeatedly, if the player is very attached to their character and feel he/she/it has reasons to cling to mortal life. While it does sometimes hurt the suspension of disbelief, it is part of the game (and besides, Rowan will be 'that druid' in like three levels).
I think Order of the Stick had a good theory on this: Since heaven is basically real, being dead is pretty dam nice - so most people would stay dead. The exception being those with seriously important business.
Fhârn might not be exceptionally pleased with the turnout. He would probably like to blame Sanita for it all, but honestly, deep down he knows several other people could have saved Felix - himself and Felix included. All they had to do was to hold back abit and covered him ...
Dareon is skilled in Diplomacy :) Check out that modifier! He hasn't even got max ranks in it.
As a player I prefer to stick with the same party for extended periods of time, and so when I am DM I provide my players with frequent options for PC resurrection pre-9th. I just feel like it's really difficult to plausibly continue introducing people.
As a character Dareon thought that Felix's plan was kind of dumb, and also doesn't even have any money, so he won't be supporting Felix's rebirth. He won't blame Sanita, in fact, he'll blame Felix for the man's own death.
Are you now just forgetting the other Diplomat of our team? I believe I feel slightly insulted ^^
Back to our discussion at hand.
As a player If someone is really attached to his or her character I can understand (s)he'd like to Reincarnate/Resurrect. Among my tabletop games it's hard if you lose your character and it will depend on the person how they take it. In here most players seem more relaxed about it, as I see it Felix seems fine with any of the options our DM might present so...
As a character
Lanya would feel some remorse about Felix, it would feel like she's lost an important rival that pushes her. She might be okay with a Reincarnate spell, but will remind Felix he owes her/everyone.
Regarding Sanita, Lanya doesn't really know how and that Felix has died, if she discovers Sanita's pushing Felix to his death, she will give her a remand for inciting his foolish bravery all for the sake of wanting to have the last word/be right.
A lot of people have been citing economic reasons - didn't Felix actually have a substantial amount saved ?
The one with enough actual sense to save for his death .. :P
Funny thing is I was saving that incase vors or Dante passed on and I needed to raise the dead in a few levels. Don't expect I would be the one who would need it. And yes, I have enough on my person for reincarnate. Also she didn't incite foolish bravery, she full on pushed my horse and I held on for dear life :P
Honestly, if we could reincarnate Felix, I think Sanita would love it. It'd salve her guilt a bit (although some people are going to be disappointed over the amount of guilt she has, it's not going to be all consuming). Plus it would let her and Felix go a few more rounds. :)
She'd also get to do the "I told you that was a stupid plan, you moron, it's a good thing you were the one that got killed! Can you imagine if it had been Rowan? He'd never have left his god... or Wylliam!" :)
Well, you deserved it! Foolish man with a foolish plan! Hopefully you've learned how foolish frontal assaults can be. :)
As a player I have no problem with people coming back from the dead. It does offer a unique chance to reroll a character if the player wishes, and I don't mind as a player when I die as long as it is epic. Had my barbarian die last weak TbT game, swallowed whole by a sea-monster. Carl killed it though on his last round alive in its stomach, before the acid got him.
Dante in character
Dante will blame Sanita for her rash actions, and himself for not taking his place, he will be sad over the loss of a friend and colleauge. This will cause him to push for the actual kingdom roles to be initiated, and will attempt to take the position of general to prevent this sort of thing from happening again.
I am glad my death is doing so much for the party as a whole. Now if only you guys can survive this fight.
Felix, I was afraid when I rolled damage that this might be the case. And let me just say that I both appreciate and am impressed by your candor. Feel free to write up another character. Hell, if you are fast enough I'll try to get you involved in the fight. It would be easy if you were a kobold, but whatever you come up with I'll try and work it in.
GM? What about the reincarnate? Is that off the table?
Reincarnate would be possible. If you haven't noticed the woods seem chock full of druids and fey creatures.
Sanita had kind of noticed that, and would be willing to bet 50 coins that Oleg has a friend who's a druid, or at least knows one who could do the deed.
Maybe he'll be reincarnated in something cuter, like a drow or catfolk body. :)
Might have to change his Oracle's curse though, since it builds him a new body. Maybe haunted as a side effect of being dead?
Kertuffle, I figured too many people use cats for that mutagen. :) So Sanita is using snakes. Her boost to Natural Armor is all the snake scales she grows, her increased reflexes is her bones altering to be more like a snakes (flexible and fluid), but it also lowers her wisdom (she tends to be more twitchy and reactive like a rattler, rather than thinking things out*).
*Yes yes, I know, since when does she think things out. :)
I have always just gone with the classic Jekyll Hyde motif. I blame batman beyond for the animal change thing being so prevalent. I'm gonna wait to see what the party decides to do before jumping back in. If they reincarnate Felix I am fine with it, if not I have an inkling of a character in my head now. Of course it hinges on us surviving.
To make sure I'm reading the mounted combat rules right, I can fast dismount (DC 15 20 ride check) and then I can act normally after (move + standard)? Might be worth the risk if it gets me up into the action sooner. Nevermind, the DC is 20. :)
I'm thinking that we should probably take the horses down around all the way to the stairs.
But looking on the map - Santa seems to have made decent headway up there, so I guess we could just follow whatever path she took
Edit: Looking back I realize she simply climbed. Clever girl. Sadly that doesn't really help us encased in lead ...
Seem like I can just move down to the foot of the stairs, dismount with a move action and have a standard action left. Anyone see anything that makes that sound wrong?
Masamura, we're using the Tactical Area around Stag Lord's Fort map.
Thank you and I honestly thought I was in he discussion thread then...
Edit: Looking back I realize she simply climbed. Clever girl. Sadly that doesn't really help us encased in lead ...
Of course I am. :)
You could just direct your horse down the green line and dismount onto the stairs next to Sanita too.
I don't think a horse could move through that area though. The lower level map shows that it is choked up with the fallen stone ceiling.
Just makes it difficult terrain, double movement. Or requiring a squeeze along the wall for the horse. Either makes it double movement cost. I think the horse probably has the movement for it. If nothing else, get under and stop next to the large stone, dismount and climb up the stairs as a full action.
Umm... Horses are consider 2x1 in this game so he might not even need to squeeze. Though I might be wrong.