Impressive. You know, you can be all munckinny and cut yourself a couple hp before going to bed each night (enough for natural healing ot take care of). But you probably already thought of that...
I read something about Mongol horseman would cut up their own faces with little knife cuts. Im not sure exactly the purpose to this. But apparently it would done to the point that they would no longer need to shave due to the fine layer of scars.
Impressive. You know, you can be all munckinny and cut yourself a couple hp before going to bed each night (enough for natural healing ot take care of). But you probably already thought of that...But yet it is still impressive how quick you came up with the idea and response !!!! Munchkin ALERT hahahaha
am I *that* transparent??
am I *that* transparent??Impressive. You know, you can be all munckinny and cut yourself a couple hp before going to bed each night (enough for natural healing ot take care of). But you probably already thought of that...But yet it is still impressive how quick you came up with the idea and response !!!! Munchkin ALERT hahahaha
takes one to know one
I'm admittedly at something of a disadvantage here.
First, you all have gamed together before, and thus have reasonable knowledge of what you do and don't like in a campaign.
Second, you've also done so in a play-by-post, meaning you've already taken the first part and have extrapolated that to PbP.
And third, this is my first time running an adventure path of any sort, let alone one via play-by-post. I know what I can and can't gloss over in an Pathfinder Society scenario with PbP, due to my familiarity with them.
I'm still learning about APs — if I change something, does it have ramifications of which I'm not yet aware? And at the same time I'm learning about APs via play-by-post.
This is not meant to read as "poor me," so if it does I apologize.
It *is* meant to read as, please bear with me while I learn what you guys enjoy and what you don't, and what does and doesn't work through play-by-post in an adventure path setting.
please bear with me while I learn what you guys enjoy and what you don't, and what does and doesn't work through play-by-post in an adventure path setting.
I wouldn't be here if I wasn't willing to extend a certain amount of trust and "mulligans" to ye. The way I see it, you're providing a service (for FREE even) to me: running a campaign for my enjoyment. It would be churlish in the extreme to not extend you every courtesy and benefit of the doubt!
speaking for myself...the reverse also applies. If you find I'm being disruptive, unreasonable, or just plain no fun, feel free to call me on it.
That was for the DM. Players can screw off. :-)))
No worries!
I've actually NEVER gamed with Joe before, and I'm loving every second of it.
I've DMed 1.5 Paizo APs start to finish. The answer is "yes." There are things that matter and can change the end game of certain things. A single item in the first town? Probably not.
That being said, don't feel compelled to change anything. One thing I've learned with doing an AP via PbP is that changing things are just another thing to keep track of. When you go by the book, it's MUCH easier to keep track of. I know you and I are similar in many gaming things. Running a home game, PbP AP, as well as playing/running PFS stuff is a LOT. Simpler is better.
Keep up the good work!
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DMS please accept my apology. I'm not unhappy, I'm a pretty straight forward person and I know that I am only one opinion in the scheme of things. This is only my 3rd play by post game ever, and my second PF game. But I have been playing since the 70's.
Just remember in no way am I asking you to change things to blow apart the AP. minor changes such as instead of awarding a long sword make it a great sword if its more appropriate to the party if an extra bit of damage that it provides breaks the AP then that is a whole 'nother concern.
I'm enjoying gaming with you all also. I always knew Adam was a quick wit. But I never would have taken Phil for a gamer when we met.
DMS please accept my apology. I'm not unhappy, I'm a pretty straight forward person and I know that I am only one opinion in the scheme of things. This is only my 3rd play by post game ever, and my second PF game. But I have been playing since the 70's.
Just remember in no way am I asking you to change things to blow apart the AP. minor changes such as instead of awarding a long sword make it a great sword if its more appropriate to the party if an extra bit of damage that it provides breaks the AP then that is a whole 'nother concern.
I'm enjoying gaming with you all also. I always knew Adam was a quick wit. But I never would have taken Phil for a gamer when we met.
Thanks Joe! OK so here's my take on tailoring… I like the results but I'm left with the nagging feeling like, "gee I wonder why every session we find more magic numchuks, is it just because we have a purple belt in the party?" Sorry - inside karate joke but you get the idea.
It is a challenge and handicapping the party is always cause for innovation and improvisation. I have to say, if I were the DM and I'm running the fight we just finished in the Inn, and the AP calls for a pack of wolverines to be in the closet upstairs, given the party is totally depleted and just survived by the skin of their teeth - those wolverines become a fey in a cage.
I like the challenge. I have never DMed anything other than a session when we were in 8th grade and halfway through everyone recognized we were going through level 1 of Doom (yes the FPS from the 90's - sorry guys), but I recognize the challenge to a DM is throttling up or down to keep a realistic prospect of TPK while also providing negotiable challenges that can be overcome with ingenuity, might and a bit of luck.
That said - it makes little sense for Heldren to have a Mess Kit made of Umbrite in the general store. (Wait, does it?)
Just so everyone knows, Joe is awesome.
He let me move into his house after knowing me for approximately 38 seconds. Hail Joe!
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Odric, no one was fooled, not even for one second. You even revealed the map using the fog of war shapes of Doom.
Mike, here's the official FAQ on your previous question. I'm playing my magus later today:
I'm enjoying gaming with you all also. I always knew Adam was a quick wit. But I never would have taken Phil for a gamer when we met.
Thank you. Ill take that as a compliment.
Sorry, guys — work has me buried under a mountain of rubble today. (Rocks fall, everyone dies.) I should be able to get something up this evening, tho it may be late my time.
Are you in Chicago?
Yep, work in Chicago and live outside of it.
I read it's colder there than in Antarctica. Having your own little Reign of Winter there, eh?
It's eased up a little today (mostly cos the wind died down), but yeah: Monday's high out in our area of the 'burbs was -15 with 20 mph winds so it felt like -45 or so. And Tuesday got all the way to -11, with the same winds.
Today, by contrast, actually reached positive numbers (heat wave at +8)!
Holy Crap! Id hate to have to work outside in that.
Nah, I work in an office, but still need to go outside to get to it. :-) It's a fair sight warmer now (28 this morning, w00t!).
Turns out work has kicked my keister all week. (First World problems: at least I have a job, you know?)
Hoping to catch up on my gaming posts this weekend. To confirm: once the wand is ready, you guys are headed back to the Lodge, yes?
Yes, we'll head out then.
Ive been home sick all week. Then just as Im getting better I bust up my foot pretty much keeping me on the couch.
(Glad you are working again Mike)
you bust it up at work, on the bike, or training?
Well, JMSO, money's only good for what it can get you; in and of itself, not so much.
But not having any definitely sucks.
you bust it up at work, on the bike, or training?
In no way is there any sort of a good story. I did it around the house.
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Proof that we should only engage in awesome activities.
Stop getting hurt, you guys!
(You guys the players. You guys the PCs can get hurt all you I want.)
That's really cool. I've actually considered purchasing that figure before for one of my PCs! :-)
Of course after the Bones Kickstarter (and its sequel), I have absolutely no business buying minis until 2016, probably. LOL
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Vojtek, that one's outside the game mechanics. Maybe with a terrific Acro check I might allow it for cinematic effect, cos it'd be awesome...but not with a 13. Sorry.
***DISCLAIMER***Before you read this any further know that the ruling you made was correct. ***DISCLAIMER***
This one stopped me in my tracks. I had to read it several times to make sure it said what it did. Especially the part I have put in bold. Like the disclaimer said the ruling was correct, but how you got there might be suspect. I say this because there is a number on the die that he could have rolled and it not just be "cinematic" flair. Although I do love a little rule bending when some awesome cinematic thing happens.
First I have a personal issue with the phrase in bold, but I won't even start down that rabbit hole.
Second how in the bloody blue blazes of hell can it be outside of the rules? Every swashbuckling sword swinging movie has a stunt that is similar. Errol Flynn is turning over in his grave about this not being possible. Heck Anakin Skywalker wishes it was against the rules he would have kept 3 more of his own appendages.
If the rules state that you have creatures that can fly and/or levitate you by default must make the combat area 3 dimensional. Thus you must allow for vertical squares as well as horizontal. So does this add a bit of math, yes it does, but you don't have to be a geometry major to adjudicate it.
I did about 3 minutes of digging on d20pfsrd.com, and found rules enough to make an arbitration of said event.
Acrobatic Skill Rules
Attacks of Opportunity
Special Movement Rules
Now the facts as they were at the time of the post. Creature 10' up, Vojtek more than 10' away from creature's position on the map.
The only variable that needs to be decided is if by 10' up you mean it is 1 square above the ground or 2 squares above the ground. I will go with 2 squares above the ground, since if it was only one Vojtek wouldn't have had to jump anyway.
Now that it has been assumed that Vojtek had to effectively jump 1 square or 5' in a high jump, or a 20' long jump during which the height obtained is 5' at the apex. The DC is set by using the impressive charts available. The Acrobatics DC would have been 20 in either case. Which Vojtek failed hence you made the right call.
Now lets have fun and say he did hit the DC. Makes the attack with all the bonus' for a possible charge or defender has higher ground. Then without option he would simply receive an AoO once he left the square. He would leave the square either in that round, or in the next if he was at his max movement. Yes Feats like running attack, mobility would still apply if he had them. Thene would also land in the square below the creature for a high jump effectivly doubling the check if he wanted to do so next time, or 2 squares distant if it was a long jump.
In conclusion I want to stress that this isn't a "Rules Lawyer" post. The action in itself is provided for in the rules, albeit a combination of them. This was a simple one to figure out, not even close to some of the craziness that comes up in our table top games. It is a post saying that anything can be attempted in the game, and that almost nothing is "outside of the game mechanics".
I know it will be. I guess I just have high expectations, and nip issues in the bud so they don't grow or fester
I made a call based on what the player wanted to do. As all GMs do.
We can keep debating it or we can play the game. When it's your table, you can rule whatever way you like...and the choice will be the same: to debate or play. If you want a GM that's perfect, I am probably not the right GM for you; and if you're not having fun, that's an issue we should discuss.
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I'm sorry I must not have made it clear enough. I wasn't disputing the call that you made at all, it was the right call.
What I am questioning (a big difference from disputing) is the methodology and the reasoning behind your call. Using the term "Outside The Game Mechanics" denotes several things, and none of them favorable. Now is this entirely the fault of DM or Players? No it isn't. See generally I like the D20 system. One of the things I like is that it's very structured, and you can rely on things being mostly standard from game to game. But that structure leads to one of it's biggest faults. To much Structure there are "Game Mechanics" for almost everything. So many game mechanics that if there isn't one players and DM's fall into the trap of "well it just can't be done how you want it to be". To be honest I did like your fall back answer of I would allow it for even just cinematic purposes if your acrobatics check was higher.
The reason I questioned it was that...(and please don't take any of this as me being mean or hatefull in anyway because it isn't meant to be)... When we first started to play I learned that you gained the rank of LT for stuff that you have done with Paizo, and I was honored and psyched to be in a game with someone who has gained that stature. Even though I have no idea what it takes to earn that rank, or the duties and responsibilities that it entails. What it did was set certain expectations. Those might have been set either falsely or to high. No I didn't set nor will I ever set my expectations at "Perfect" because that will never happen, but over the years I have come to appreciate the competence and genius and creativity of most of my GM's, and have been blessed to play with them all good and bad alike.
Now I'm not sure if you posted that when you had a spare 30 seconds to think about this PbP game, or a spare 20 min to contemplate the actions, but when I read that something as "simple" as swinging a sword at a flying creature was outside of game mechanics. It made me think ohhh wow how will he handle actual tough actions or some of the crazy out of the box ideas that comes up in our table top games.
All of this happened just after another post that made me say "Are you FN kidding me". I said that in response reading the cone attack. I think that you forgot that we had an SOP (Standard Operating Procedure)on our marching order and/or spacing. After our encounter with the trap, that most of us took damage from, we agreed to keep distance between us, but somehow magically we all are grouped up just right for everyone to get hit with a cone attack. That made me eyeroll at the obvious hey everyone take damage now please. Now at a table we would have been able to place our mini's and it would have been our fault. On PbP when you put up a map it's totally ok for the DM to be a smart PC on the initial layout. I will apologize to you right now, if you put the map up and one of the players set up our marching order.
Now I do appreciate that you awarded us extra XP for the ambush tactic, but in this players opinion I will forego extra XP awards in order to not take damage for being "stupid" or "just because". Especially since we have been having the feeling of "Being Watched" and we know there have been invisible creatures around. Yes I know Mike and Adam are saying Hush your mouth crazy dude we want extra xp awards... :D
In conclusion this isn't at all a debate it is your game and your rules I get it. What it is is a conversation about expectations and how to form a better GM Player relationship. I don't dislike you, heck I don't even know you. What I do know is that I see the chance to develop a good game, and this whole conversation could have taken place in 5 minutes at the gaming table while people were refilling their Mt. Dew and paying the Pizza guy when he showed up.
FYI, I'm heading out of town to a convention starting tomorrow evening. I might have a chance to update on occasion, but it'll be sporadic through Sunday.
Not that (most of) you guys have much to do up to your knees in snow...
Back home after a great convention (yay!) and a harrowing trip home through whiteout conditions (yikes!).
That's a first for me, despite having lived all but about 5 years of my life in the upper Midwest and driving through blizzards, snowstorms, and plenty of snowdrifts. Yeesh.
Plus we have another sub-zero cold snap with high winds! w00t! (Is my sarcasm showing yet? LOL)
Glad you made it back.
I prefer the usually mild winters in Maryland. Not sure what Id do if lived in the upper MidWest. I might have to get a spiked wheelset for my dirtbike and do some ice riding.
I keep telling my wife that this is the year we need to leave these winters behind. I can even hear the Atlantic surf in NC/SC calling to me right now...
Of course then she goes and gets a new job with insanely good opportunities to do Something Grand for one of her pet Important Causes, right here in Chi-town.
Ah, well, the best-laid plans of mice and men...her kids would hate to move anyway. LOL
Fair enough. I don't mind the snow. No matter where you go, you get some type of crappy weather. Glad you made it though!
...Waaaaiiiit a second. Were there unnatural fey in your white out?
I keep telling my wife that this is the year we need to leave these winters behind. I can even hear the Atlantic surf in NC/SC calling to me right now...
The Carolina shore is pretty nice. Ive taken my family out to the Outer Banks just about every summer for a week or long weekend for the last ten years.
Fair enough. I don't mind the snow. No matter where you go, you get some type of crappy weather. Glad you made it though!
...Waaaaiiiit a second. Were there unnatural fey in your white out?
I hear you. My wife visited Austin TX 18 months ago and now wants us to move there. I would probably like the winter/spring/fall but would probably sweat my nuts off all summer. (Though unless my wife gets a job making double my pay Im not going anywhere. I would lose my pension and seniority and start over if I go somewhere else.)
I agree there's weather issues anywhere you go. I just wanna pick and choose my issues. :-)
I've been blessed to have had the chance to go lots of places in this country -- 31 states and counting, not including airports -- and while there have been things I like about nearly all of them, none have appealed as much as the Carolina coast has. Still get four seasons, but quite mild winters and summers tempered by the ocean? Yes please. LOL
Mild summers in NC my foot! I've had some horrible months in the woods of Ft. Bragg sitting in a hundred degree sweat box hating life. Man what I would have done for some snow and icy wind.
Wait, that sucks just as bad. Ft. Carson and Korea had that and I complained the whole time there too. Nevermind.
Yeah I could never ever live in the South. Not counting CA, VA is about as south as I can enjoy.
Asheville NC was pretty sweet. You'd like it S.
Asheville is indeed very pretty and it's about 2000 ft above sea level, so very temperate compared to the rest of NC.
I just like the ocean myself, and I'm one of those weird people who actually goes out into it. :-)