
Yvell Endymion |

Meh it depends.. is all he's sayin. I can pretty much guarantee if we hit 6th level death will be a very hard thing to come by. Also Divine characters too stronk.. look at that Gather info and Perception.

Ibuki Surtova |

Many pbp AP groups unfortunately don´t last that long.
But hey, i´m in a Dark Sun campaign that runs over a year now, and the Gm was absent for nearly a month due to stress. He came back and we game on.
I think this group has the potential to make it through the whole AP, even without everyone posting 5+ times a day ;)
Or Scrapwall kills all before.

Yvell Endymion |

Like I said thats highly unlikely.
Im in a game that started like 2 years ago.. it homebrew and we are in the last stages of taking on Cthulhu.

Ibuki Surtova |

Let´s use this thread for ooc only posts and discussions^^
Maybe Ibuki wants to confirm Yvell? Or just go there and get done with it?
Ibuki is a lot more clever than i am, so i can´t fully understand his motives most of the time...
Perhaps he thinks it might be dangerous and a more elaborate plan that just walking in somewhere could be a good idea though. Why not ask him?

Yvell Endymion |

I wanted to make sure because i didnt want it to be an insult to Yvell as he would act like it was such to his intelligence if he didnt understand correctly.

Yvell Endymion |

Save for the explore around thing Aeron pretty much got why Yvell was confused.. At no point did he reveal info and was confused why Ibuki was. But if he had tried to shut him up he would have been 'in the wrong' As far as the go with Muga thing at this point Yvell is alost tempted to just let you guys get killed as splitting the party was Muga's fault.

Yvell Endymion |

What To do What to do.. Yvell is genuinely pissed for being called out when he is not the one who excites things on his side and even worse by some newcomer who doesnt know much and agrees to split the party to go with this brute who has attachment issues.. in his eyes. Even worse he is a follower of Ragathiel and as such would see this as a challenge to his faith.

Aeron Woke |

^_^ Yvell needs to learn to count to ten and take a deep breath. ;) But in all seriousness, this push was partly because the GM actually gave us options to explore the town and even split up. I feel that those options would not be open to us if getting to birdfood was so crucial and time sensitive.

Ibuki Surtova |

I think that fine Aeron. Ibuki was thinking loud in the wrong place. I doubt that there were many spies though, but who knows. Anyone can make suggestions as to what to do anytime. And paladins of R. Need to be able to survive too. If they just see everything as a challenge and rage, they would probably be extinct long ago. ;)
Yvell being pissed is becoming the normal mood. Do we actually know his mood and see it on his face?
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Yvell Endymion |

You will making the post now. There was no issue of survival if we did the job to him but for him its like you spit in the Steel hawks face. Way back, if you noticed when we were sent to save Khonnir he stuck to that FERVENTLY. And due to that they found the man in little under a day. AFTERWARD he seemed more open about where they went because the obligation was not there.

Aeron Woke |

I kinda figured Yvell to be a point a to point b kind of guy. I have a feeling Aeron is gonna put him in a nut house before the end of this AP. :)

Yvell Endymion |

*Shrug* Doesnt matter now.. He's pissed, If he ran into something (Like a gang), he'd probably slaughter it rather than be any type of merciful.
In the last book we werent given a time limit to find the Professor either but that does not mean you can be lazy or lax with obligations.

Ibuki Surtova |

You first have to survive... And I would find that pretty ridiculous actually. Alone slaying the boss....
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Yvell Endymion |

Yvell has killed/Defeated... how many things basically? So If we can split up I assume things arent that bad. If he does die well then He is gunna be more pissed. Think Meyanda pretty much was floored by him.. If Im soloing this Im almost tempted to have the GM let me have regular smite for the duration.

Yvell Endymion |

Thats a basic method of most martials who can wear heavy armor.. by lieu of being a paladin It also applies to my saves as well as other things. But if I were actually invested in single combat my choices would have been much different. It also makes sense for Yvell.. especially since he was also a frontline with Bran and Derlin.. You can depend on others sure but you must be able to provide something yourself. In that case He's kinda like a bard.. who while buffing other people does not slack on the pain-train.
Basically he isnt all talk, he walks the walk.. Too bad Muga wont see this.

Yvell Endymion |

If that is what she wants.. he might die he might not.. He clearly didnt want the group split but that was their decision and his. Like I said Im not sure what will happen especially if he does survive. Also funny thing here s that Val is stronger than Yvell but not many probably notices. Either way its your decision. I just meant that as he was calming out of his rage (Which he still kinda is) He was surprised Val was there because he wasnt paying much attention.
In either case... I guess we go before the enemy.
OOC I would love you to accompany him
IC he also has no issues but is over emotional right now and wants to vent it on enemies.

Valtyra Brightsong |

I never noticed that. Its too bad shes not really built for combat more support.
She would have followed you because you went off alone. She cam out of the bar just when the two groups split. Catching little of the fight.

Yvell Endymion |

Yvell is also built to support but both him and Val have nice Str and abilities to beat face as needed not to mention Good AC. For example, Val's str is 16 but she is using a Buckler. If she took his rage and two handed her weapon.. she would hit at only two less damage.. but higher to hit. And ofcourse taking advantage of any buffs he throws out as well as her own. Also Phylla was on his back. Either way I am sorry that.. Yvell is such a.. volatile person it makes Val's life hard.

Yvell Endymion |

In all seriousness If Yvell thought it went bad he would have Sent Phylla back to inform the group that way you all would be prepared the best way possible. Even angry he has his priorities.
Same with Val if he thinks it turns bad he would tell her to abandon him.
Phylla will likely be the MVP here because of her.. lockdown abilities.

Yvell Endymion |

Fair point. He would Plea for her to do so if it was that bad though, not that she would listen. Well we know he uses Hawks and stuff so should be a good tactic.

Yvell Endymion |

I dont NEED to climb I bring the fools to ME! Now to set up for my Ultimate attack!

Muga |

Ok... So... Ibuki, are you having your character deliberately foil my plans and aiming to force a confrontation, or is your reading comprehension giving you difficulties?
Because, I'm at the point of frustration where I'm almost ready to say, swap Muga and Aeron's place because I'm going to leave the roleplay.

Muga |

The plan was for Muga to not affiliate with the group, and Ibuki just said this line, after also joining Muga in the arena, contrary to plan.
"Muga, i´d hate to see you die. Same is true for myself. Do your best!"
Which says in nice big bold capitol letters "THESE PEOPLE ARE ASSOCIATED AND FRIENDS"

Yvell Endymion |

Ah so in this case you more have a clash of character ideals. Issue here is.. your all CN or N to my knowledge meaning pretty much you dont abide by anyone's rule but your own. Muga wanted to do his thing, Ibuki wants to do another, Aeron has her own ideas on what to do but insist on following you. So you kinda have some issues with your plan MUCH like Yvell did.. difference being he could sorta afford to.
If it is understanding then we can fix that, if it isnt well you can just spin doctor it, act like you don't know him and that your basically two individuals (Or three) using each other. On the one hand.. without Ibuki/Aeron your chance of death is pretty high on the other it may cause issues with your plan. Imagine if you had gone alone. What would Muga had done against those two?
Your plan went contrary to Yvells and I didnt throw a fit, Yvell just went "Fine.. I'll do it myself" You did however make it clear mentally that your plan was to be non-affiliated. Which case they can just retcon the words. I would ay Friends is a stretch though.. affiliated maybe, because he knows your name.

Muga |

That's exactly why I asked the question of "Was this part of your plan" or "Is your reading comprehension really really low?"
The "My reading comprehension is really really low" is the answer that gets me to leave, as I don't particularly want to stick around in a roleplay where one of the top posters is fumbling like that.
Most of Ibuki's posts leave me going "Eh.... What?" and not in a good "confused by the esoteric arcanist" way and more of a "Is he reading the same thing the rest of us are reading?" way. If he promises it's the former, I'll give the benefit of the doubt and stick around and wait for the grand reveal, because I really have loved the few Ibuki posts I've seen where he's got everything on the level.

Yvell Endymion |

He seems to be from another country so sometimes his understanding will be off as a person you should have enough tolerance to deal with it, most of the time it wont matter unless they do a move that ends up getting your character killed really. Either way ONE person should never get you to leave a group unless you didn't feel strongly about the game in the first place.. if so it is your decision however. Also it seems he uses Wayfinder.. so posting from a phone might be different.
If you have a problem just tell him here, like I have or otherwise respond to the post assuming the character is like that... And thus you understand why Yvell is Yvell.

Valtyra Brightsong |

This whole last bit has left Val going "wait what? Why cant we work together?"
Ibuki has said he is from a different country and that English isnt his first language. I think he is a cool guy and most of the stuff he says makes sense. Every now and then i need to re-read something but thats ok.
Dont worry Muga. We might be eaten by a Smiler and Orcs.

Yvell Endymion |

We will see as we have differing situations here.. Yvell's so far has gone swimmingly. A Possibly Paralyzed, About to get Bionic Armed Boss is being pulled off his pedestal while his minions might throw up their livers. And in yours you have Two Ogres versus you three.
Yvell's plan wanted the whole party but the dice seem to agree with his action so far. All you need to do Is kill one then the other, assuming Aeron joins and they dont focus fire you. you should be fine... just remember your healing. Also dont get crit.

Yvell Endymion |

Hrm? On avg he cant, max damage on a swing is 29, 33 if you challenge. They have avg 30 HP. If you go for the Iaijustu your max goes up to 42 but then your AC is -4 or -6 lower to the other Ogre. This includes you power attacking and having fire.

Ibuki Surtova |

Muga i wasn´t about to foil your plans. My english is also more than sufficient most times, i consider myself pretty fluent. Only Yvell confused me from time to time since he is using idioms that i would put under "spoken" english and i didn´t have a chance to hear or read before.
Maybe both you and Yvell should look at this from another perspective.
You both want solo time and chances to shine with your character.
There are 5 people in the group and all want something to do.
Now giving 5 characters solo time at once might be easier in PbP than in real life, but it´s still difficult and a lot more work.
That´s probably why we have 2 groups now. It´s exactly what i would have done as a GM in this situation.
You can´t really expect the rest to stay put and not participate in the action that furthers the plot and/or might go over several pages.
Storywise Ibuki might have gone to different places first, but it was my decision not to do so or enforce it, to not further spread the group.
We might survive a party-split, but not going solo.
And no, Muga chances vs 1-2 ogres are pretty even actually, with an AC of 16 and his +10 (1d10+7) Nodachi. The ogres probably have a bit less hp, but a bit more damage with the greatclubs and a near similar hitting chance i guess.
I waited for Aerons post a while, but she didn´t post before i went to sleep, so i followed along. Hopping into the arena to save Mugas ass later might have had different repercussions.
You might want to take a look at this and think about it, especially 1.2 and 1.3..

Yvell Endymion |

Is that last portion directed at me?
Also You dont take into account the creatures have reach, but even moreso if we are just doing avgs both hit each other with similar bonuses, Muga does 13~ish they do ~16ish. So assuming he does at least a power attack or challenge on the second strike he may very well drop one.. but took 3 hits and would be using resolve. Ogres are no joke. Now he could then step back and use the CW for avg 17 and then assuming anyone else strikes it resolve again to drop it.
I have no issue with what you were doing but you are confusing acting IC to wanting the spotlight.. doing what you character DOE ha nothing to do with spotlight.. it is normal.. doing something above that or particularly awesome is closer to that.
As far as disagreements, this is really small compared to say, a game with all fervent members of differing Good/Law Aligned Gods. Imagine A paladin of Erastil debating with a Paladin of Ioamedae, While the Cleric of Shelyn and the Inquisitor of Sarenrae are joined in. The Warpriest of Cayden is busy drinking it up but is being berated by the Sacred Fist of Irori because drink tall perfection.