Council of Thieves

Game Master Mug

Good luck, Corneleous.

With just the coins split with a cut for myself, Amon, Corneleous, Ava, Enko, Caladius and the people of Westcrown... we have

159gp (roughly)
61sp (roughly)

From there we can sell all of our loot and see where we stand, so we should start making grabs for anything we fancy before we work out what we'll be wanting to take. Also I do have my eye on that tower shield. I've always had a soft spot for them, but that enormous armour check penalty usually manages to dissuade me. Hrmmmm...

I believe there were two wands of magic missile.

Mug: what are our options for selling/trading magical items.

Also, how do you feel about craft wondrous items? I'm on the fence between that and improved initiative for my feat.

I'd also be alright with it if bot-Amon bot-selected Brew Potion as his feat and chilled back at HQ to bot-make us CLW and CMW potions on the cheap. =)

I'll take a moment to addend Twigs' statement.

In the communal inventory there's actually 2643gp, 507sp and 80gp worth of jewellery plus the unappraised ones. Did we actually want to gather up the non-mwk armor and weapons to sell?

(Also Ava wouldn't split her share for charity. She'd take 1/6 and let you guys do what you pleased with your shares.)

Speaking of shares, did we actually want to divvy up the gold or just keep a communal stash? Since we're an organization, it makes enough sense to pool resources instead of floating stuff between us.

Here's the equipment tables so far.

View it fullscreen to get the whole table visible at once and navigate between groups of 3 people with the little tabs. It's all pretty simple. I haven't done the weights and values of Caladius' equipment or the new stuff yet, nor have I put mundane goblin arms and armor on there. I can add it if you like.

For the scrap leather and metal... Well... If anyone knows a buyer we might as well gather it up.

Also just realised havent distributed Lucon's skill points for this level. D'oh! Will get on that then roll a knowledge check.

I don't mind leaving the mundane leathers soiled by goblin flesh behind. The non-masterwork stuff seems like more trouble than they're worth.

UNLESS we have a mob of halflings and gnomes we need to outfit poorly in a short amount of time. Then we should keep that stuff.

1d20 + 4 ⇒ (2) + 4 = 6

So it turns out Lucon doesn't know a guy who knows a guy.

Knowledge (Local): 1d20 + 4 ⇒ (13) + 4 = 17

Ava might! I'll ring up a quick total for the weapons, the armors and then both together in the case we can sell them. I think it'd have a negligible value, though.

EDIT: Crunched the numbers, the leathers/shortswords/shortbows come to 240gp, so we'd be able to sell for 120gp. More if we hawk some of the mwk stuff too.

It adds up. I did a gold tally for the Burnt Offerings part of Rise of the Runelords to see how far it fell short in that regard. About a third of the gold avaliable was for selling every little piece of goblin equipment as scrap, and it was actually pretty close to the guidelines.

If I were to run it again I'd skip that bit and put a bounty on goblin ears for a similar amount, but a 10gp shortsword and 15gp studded leather add up after a few dozen goblins, especially if they're goblins armed with bows.

@Corneleous - You can take your magic items to certain shops and the proprietor will make an offer, or you can give items to Yakopulio and she will see what she can get for it. The latter option usually takes more time and it a much riskier venture, as the types she deals with are sometimes less than savory. I'm fine with the Craft Magical Item feat.

@Caladius - You actually already have such a person (offering that same deal for potions) at your disposal at the torchbearers hideout named Arael. You haven't meant this person yet, but the others in the group have.

@Ava - One of the torchbearers, Yakopulio, is quite the business woman and has sold items for your group in the past. In part as a favor for the more... powerful members of the Torchbearers, and because some of the funds do go to the organization as a whole. Plus she's probably skimming a little off the top.

Enko would still give part of his share to the people--will the non-Ava's do the same? Enko also won't criticize Ava's decision--ah, Lawful Good monks, bit of a pain to play.

A communal stash might not be bad, as long as we each get to present our 'bids' for what we'd like to buy. Some classes are more gear-intensive than others, and hey, 'free' tower shield, Twigs. (hooray for cheaper AoMF--so beneficial to druids and summoners...er, I mean to monks)

We've had some downtime at times when you can craft, Corneleous, so it might come in handy.

Rather than leaving the small sized equipment behind, Caladius would like to bring them along but not for the purpose of selling them. He'd like to clean them up and distribute them along with some blankets and simple provisions to needy gnomes, halflings, children, or other small-sized folk who are basically homeless.

If the the torchbearers already have an operation like this underway, all the better!

We can do that in lieu of donating other monies. Pathfinder, ya know, it doesn't make one conducive to charity.

The Viscount believes that charity involves handing out stale loaves of bread to the poor left over from his family's last gala. His vote is that the money should be reinvested in the group unless there is a direct victim to return it to, or if the group can make a grand gesture to enhance its reputation.

Also, he takes improved initiative instead of the craft feat for now. When the group has more money to spend, he'll start whipping out items.

Sounds good to me

Thats probably a good call Corneleous, we probably dont have the funds for any of the good stuff yet.

His vote is that the money should be reinvested in the group unless there is a direct victim to return it to, or if the group can make a grand gesture to enhance its reputation.

This is partly why I was thinking would could donate the stuff we'd have otherwise just left behind. The other part is that Caladius grew up living in the streets, and though it's not much, a dagger and some crappy leather armor could probably save a lot of lives.

Goblin crafting would probably hurt more people than it helped, and I doubt we'd win many friends if we ran about handing rusty blades to six year old boys. :P

What if we just gave a cut of our money to Arael to distribute as he pleases?

Dibs on the tower shield! Did Enko want to make a claim on the cestus? There was also the masterwork gear up for grabs, as well as smoke pellets and arrows of flight. Also thanks again for the spreadsheet, Ava. They are always good to have. Also you should upload our current games ones to the google docs

I'm assuming the goblin's equipment was not made by goblins but is actually repairable with a little effort. If it's beyond repair then yeah, we shouldn't even bother with the stuff.

No dibs on anything for me. I would have asked for the cestus, but since I just picked up quickdraw I don't really need it.

Everything is functional as the item it's listed as. Some of the armors may be a little patchwork, and some weapons may be rusted or dirty, but nothing is less than functional. These were pretty well-stocked goblins, having an ambitious, vicious, and quite successful leader for some time allowed them to be better provisioned than most.

If no one wants the master work crossbow, the Viscount will take it. Mug, how much to exchange a wand of magic missile for a wand of Ray of enfeeblement?

You'd first have to find a merchant who has an equivalent number of charges left in their own wand of Ray of Enfeeblement. The respectable places only sell fully charged wands. To exchange the wand of magic missile (with the charges that remain) for a fully charged Ray of Enfeeblement wand would be... 575gp.

Praise the servers! I don't know about you guys but I've been locked out since yesterday. Phew. Glad that's over and hopefully it stays over!

According to their facebook profile, the site's been down since yesterday afternoon! I'm not sure if it was an internal issue or a problem on their ISP's end though.

SuperStar voting should be up soon! Eep!

575 is a tad out of our price range at the moment. What was on the scroll we picked up? Read magic.

Ah, must have been eaten yesterday. It's a scroll of Touch of Idiocy.

Sorry for the infrequent posting lately, I'm undergoing a job change and it's making things extra busy for me. That'll start on Jan 2 and fingers crossed they don't block Paizo! :)

Ava tallied up the unclaimed gear upthread, so we should sort this out before we progress any further.

120gp for the mundane goblin gear, 80gp of trade goods and jewelry, twelve unappraised pieces of mundane jewelry (I assume Yakopulio made this check, how much, Mug?) and 2643 gp, 50sp, 7cp to split between us six ways. (Totalling 439gp, 8sp and 4cp each)

On top of this, yet unclaimed, are a mwk chain shirt (250gp), mwk cestus (305gp), crossbow (335gp), small studded leather (330gp), a double crossbow (300gp), a shortbow (30gp), 10 arrows of flight(20gp) [ooc](Long range, less damage for whoever else had to look that one up), 10 mwk bolts (60gp). Altogether this totals 1630gp or 815 sold at half value (split six ways that's 135gp, 8sp and 3cp.) If anyone wants to claim one of these, speak now or forever hold your piece.

All up we're looking at about 500gp apiece. If those of us willing shave off 100gp to donate to the Torchbearer's, that still leaves us with enough for say, a shiny new masterwork weapon. We should sort out the equipment in the next few days before we move on.

Also in the party inventory we have:
10 potions of cure light wounds
3 smoke pellets

So, no exact numbers until the jewelry is appraised?

I thought about calling dibs on the flight arrows, but if anything is far enough away for their lessened range increment penalty to matter, then those things probably aren't worth shooting at anyway. So, I say sell 'em!

The jewelry is worth 1d200 + 50 ⇒ (86) + 50 = 136gp.

Alright, updated the equipment sheets with the new jewellery value.

Here it is~

Ava will happily grab those smoke pellets. The Vicscount has 2 CLW potions already (Unless he used one that I missed?), so we could give 2 each to the remaining party members for an even split (assuming Amon is coming with. If not we can give his 2 pots to Enko and Lucon.)

Amon will be coming along.

Are the forums still eating posts?

@Corneleous: I haven't had any issues lately. Well, at least I'm able to see all my posts in all the threads I've posted them in.

Regarding Gear/Downtime: So with the jewelery and everything factored in that'd work out to 6 shares of 598gp, 3 sp, and 3 cp?

If so, Caladius would like to purchase the following during the week.
dust of tracelessness - 250gp
arrows, cold iron (25) - 1gp
arrows, alchemical silver (25) - 1.5gp
arrows, masterwork (10) - 60gp

total spent: 312gp, 5sp

Are the forums still eating posts?

Not to my knowledge, but I'm not sure how I'd know if it was eater other posters posts :)

@Caladius, that looks fine to me.

Oh good, people are still alive.

My count is 592gp, with 16sp and 4cp left over. I'll add the gold to people's inventories. We can just put all the chump change (sp/cp) together, with anyone taking from it if they need it. It's a lot tidier than having to track all the little coins separately.

Who was getting the Mwk Cestus? That'd be best on Enko, yeah?

In-game, Ava would like to purchase the following:
Mwk Composite Shortbow (+3); 600gp
Quiver of arrows (20); 1gp
Potion of Shield (CL 1) x2; 100gp

For a total of 701gp.

Let's say Lucon's spent 3cp on the toy-horse(fudging something here), 10gp on the fine brandy and 100gp on the silver pendant (both based on prices in the equipment and gamemastery parts of the core rulebook), leaving him with 488gp and 3sp. I'm thinking of buying a masterwork weapon with that money. I'd opt for a masterwork tower shield, but at an ACP of -10 I won't be doing anything with that shield strapped to my arm.

Ava's also offered me her silver warhammer OOC, which I must say is a tempting proposition. I might also empty Lucon's inventory of all of his carpentry equipment and go full-adventurer for this next delve. For now I've just added the coin to my profile, though.

Ooh. I just realized Summon Monster II has small elementals. The Viscount definitely adds a scroll of Summon II (to learn) to his shopping list. -150g?

Learn roll 1d20 + 12 ⇒ (15) + 12 = 27

Cestuses do not work on monks, or rather, they don't stack with Unarmed Strike. A monk hits with a cestus and does less damage than a fist. Ridiculous but RAW; there's an SKR confirmation of this somewhere.

Anyhow, I'd like to get a masterwork kama, and then I'll get some potions of something or other.

Man, I just gotta say that spreadsheet is beyond awesome. Thank you over and over and over again for putting it together and handling it!

Hey, no problem. I use these sort of spreadsheets for my pen and paper games as well, so it was easy enough to just copy them over to google documents and fill in the blanks.

Alrighty. Everybody confirm their shopping carts and I'll get update the equipment sheets. What are we going to do with that Cestus, then? I think Lucon wanted it so he could brawl without provoking AoOs, and Caladius said something about it also. Did we want to keep it?

@Lucon: You've actually got a bit more gold than that (506 by my count) after purchases. I also realized that my silvered warhammer isn't mwk quality, so you might want to get something a bit better.

@Enko: I think Mug mentioned something about Arael being able to craft potions for us, if we paid the craft price (As long as they're cleric spells, I guess). We shall consult him about that. Potions of Mage Armor and/or shield might be cool as well.

@Viscount: Are scrolls expended when you copy them into your spellbook? It's been a while since I've last played a wizard.

I don't need the cestus thanks to my shiny new Quickdraw feat. =)

The spells are consumed if I learn them. I will recheck, but I think they stay if I fail to learn it.

Happy New year all.

Three more hours in Los Angeles--Happy New Year!

From my phone: Just waiting on a new pc for my job, I can't really post from my phone effectively. It's just an exercise in frustration. Hang in there oh ye faithful!

Hanging faithfully, oh fearless leader!

So is this how it ends, stymied by a plan of attack? ;)

Never!
We just lost a little momentum, that's all :-)