Council of Thieves

Game Master Mug

"We did not fail Aroden—he failed us, though we Wiscrani held the faith! We embraced that adversity and replaced his betrayal with strength and order." —Alcini Vitaron of Alcini’s Apothecary

**Combat Map**
*Map of Westcrown*


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Sabinus has 996gp in total (Lucon borrowed 150).

Everything is on this set of tables.


Magnificent bull-rushing train of justice and smack-downs | Init +1 Per +2 | AC 25/12/23 or AC 21/12/19| HP 45/45 | F +6/R + 2/ W +3| +3 bravery, +1 trait bonus vs. devils CMB +8 CMD 19 | Conditions: None
Attacks:
pick one-handed power attack w/shield +8 (1d6+9) | pick two-handed power attack +10 (1d6+13/x4) | pick one handed w/shield +10 (1d6+5/x4) or two handed +12 (1d6+7/x4) | bardiche +10 (1d10+13/19-20; reach, brace) |

Actually given that Ermolos gave me my masterwork weapon at half price I didnt have to borrow a cent. That said, Lucon can't afford anything fancy to wear, but at this point we can assume he got through the door okay.

Lucon's Pack:
mwk. silver clawed warhammer (as heavy pick), sap, mwk. fullplate, tower shield, potion of cure light wounds (2), masterwork carpenter's tools (chisel, plane, drill, saw), pouch of nails (as caltrops), artisans outfit, belt pouch (2), whetstone, heel of bread, flask (w/ cheap wine), torch, 10ft. rope, 10 silver shields (with 80 silver in storage/trade goods)

Also jeeeesus I am so sorry, Mug. I've had a post floating around by text message, email and everything in various states of completion just waiting for a chance to post, but every day I've gotten home I've been too exhausted/lacked the creative juices to hammer it out. I've sent a PM your way and finally posted in the thread.

Oh! and I'll add Lucon's unarmed/unarmoured stats to the little tab in his description. I just need to remember to change them back afterward.


I got the PM and I can appreciate being too tired to post anything of substance (see Mug: last weekend).

Thanks for getting it to me.

Also I feel compelled to continually thank you Surplus, for managing the loot and constantly going above and beyond to make it available to us. Thanks!


M Human Commoner/1, Expert/1

Just a heads up, I'll be vanishing on Thursday for up to a week, with an indeterminate amount of phone reception. Chances are I wont be able to post, so if you want to shuffle Lucon off to the side or bot him for a while, that's fine by me.


I appreciate the heads up. I hope you have a good trip!


And now I am going to vanish for a day or three; we are at labor and delivery and expect to see a baby today. Ciao all! Enko bows to you all.


Male Human Witch/5
Stats:
(HP 22/22; Init +5; Perception +9; AC with mage armor: 19/14/16; AC without mage armor: 14/14/11; F+1, R+4, W+4; CMB +1, CMD: 15

Yay! All the best for a great birth.


Awesome! I'm sure it'll all go splendidly.


Monk of the Upper Reach 4 | Separatist Cleric of Iomedae 1
Stats:
Init +4 Per +11 | AC 22/22/15 | HP 32/32 | F +6/R + 8/ W +9/+11 enchant| CMB +4/+7 trip CMD 25/27 trip | Redir 4/4

So...false labor. I have just learnt this phenomenon.


M Human Commoner/1, Expert/1

Oh, what a bummer! :(


Male Human Witch/5
Stats:
(HP 22/22; Init +5; Perception +9; AC with mage armor: 19/14/16; AC without mage armor: 14/14/11; F+1, R+4, W+4; CMB +1, CMD: 15

Moving to the discussion thread... I'm not sure if Enko is asking about Dellano or other vendors, but vis-a-vis Dellano, I assume we're not talking about him making a wondrous item? I'm not TOO far away from affording that headband I want, but I'm assuming he wasn't offering 2 days of crafting time...


Monk of the Upper Reach 4 | Separatist Cleric of Iomedae 1
Stats:
Init +4 Per +11 | AC 22/22/15 | HP 32/32 | F +6/R + 8/ W +9/+11 enchant| CMB +4/+7 trip CMD 25/27 trip | Redir 4/4

What IS he offering? Dun dun dunnn!


@Caladius - No you can pay full for the second item, that's fine.


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On second thought, I'll just stick with 1/2 price on the bow and save the remaining gps. Just the bow, please! =D


Monk of the Upper Reach 4 | Separatist Cleric of Iomedae 1
Stats:
Init +4 Per +11 | AC 22/22/15 | HP 32/32 | F +6/R + 8/ W +9/+11 enchant| CMB +4/+7 trip CMD 25/27 trip | Redir 4/4

Hmm, should I bother with a masterwork kama? For those times when I can't use IUS, I guess.


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Can you do any type of damage with IUS or are you limited to bludgeoning? Not sure how often we'll run into DR X/slashing, but if we did a kama'd help bypass it if you can't do so otherwise.


Monk of the Upper Reach 4 | Separatist Cleric of Iomedae 1
Stats:
Init +4 Per +11 | AC 22/22/15 | HP 32/32 | F +6/R + 8/ W +9/+11 enchant| CMB +4/+7 trip CMD 25/27 trip | Redir 4/4

There are oozes and goblin dogs; don't wanna touch those.


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What about a reach [monk] weapon?


Ava might purchase a Hat of Disguise, actually. Having a price cut drops it into the range of affordability. Is that ok, Mug?


That's fine and within Delvano's abilities Ava


Monk of the Upper Reach 4 | Separatist Cleric of Iomedae 1
Stats:
Init +4 Per +11 | AC 22/22/15 | HP 32/32 | F +6/R + 8/ W +9/+11 enchant| CMB +4/+7 trip CMD 25/27 trip | Redir 4/4

Enko is a Weapon Finesse fellow, and there are no light reach weapons. :( Unless we houserule it with the rope dart.

I was going to suggest a Hat of Disguise for Caladius, but I figured he'd just throw it on the ground. ;)


Male Human Witch/5
Stats:
(HP 22/22; Init +5; Perception +9; AC with mage armor: 19/14/16; AC without mage armor: 14/14/11; F+1, R+4, W+4; CMB +1, CMD: 15

Would Delvano be willing to hold off on my reward, and make me a headband of vast intelligence at half price once I have saved up 2000 GP?

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M Human (Chelaxian) Wizard 5 (conjurer)
Stats:
Init +5 Per +4 | AC 15 (w mage armor) otherwise 11/11 | HP 35/35 | F +2/R +2/ W +5| CMB +3 CMD 15

Hmm. If the Viscount blows all of his money, can he get a minor rod of meta magic (I'm thinking extend). Would extend work on the base duration of the spell, or would it add to my conjuration talent?


Sabinus, he would be willing to hold off till you got the fundage.

Corneleous I believe it'd add to the base duration of the spell.


Alright, so Caladius is grabbing a casting of Mwk Transformation for 180gp, was it?

And Ava will be grabbing a hat for 900.

What else is being purchased?

Dark Archive

M Human (Chelaxian) Wizard 5 (conjurer)
Stats:
Init +5 Per +4 | AC 15 (w mage armor) otherwise 11/11 | HP 35/35 | F +2/R +2/ W +5| CMB +3 CMD 15

@GM: I know I can enchant my bonded item (staff) manually when I reach the level, but what's the rule about having it enchanted? Considering I was describing it as a shorter staff/cane, could it be a candidate for the enchantment as a metamagic rod?


Monk of the Upper Reach 4 | Separatist Cleric of Iomedae 1
Stats:
Init +4 Per +11 | AC 22/22/15 | HP 32/32 | F +6/R + 8/ W +9/+11 enchant| CMB +4/+7 trip CMD 25/27 trip | Redir 4/4

Ah, then I would also hold off until I save up for the vaunted AoMF, rather than do it now. :)


Bringing the ooc to discussion thread~

Not sure if you're joking or not about the price, Mug, but you can actually get +0 AoMF.

Amulet of Many Fists wrote:


This amulet grants an enhancement bonus of +1 to +5 on attack and damage rolls with unarmed attacks and natural weapons.

Alternatively, this amulet can grant melee weapon special abilities, so long as they can be applied to unarmed attacks.

...

An amulet of mighty fists does not need to have a +1 enhancement bonus to grant a melee weapon special ability.

I never noticed this before, personally. It's actually really cool. Never saw the agile property either. Also cool.


Monk of the Upper Reach 4 | Separatist Cleric of Iomedae 1
Stats:
Init +4 Per +11 | AC 22/22/15 | HP 32/32 | F +6/R + 8/ W +9/+11 enchant| CMB +4/+7 trip CMD 25/27 trip | Redir 4/4

Thanks, Raine! I couldn't find an official price listing, but it should be the same as a normal +1 AoMF. You swap one for the other, and then the thing can't get above +4 and Agile. Ah, wondrous item nerfing.


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Am I the only one who thought the +0 price tag was an April Fool's joke?


Funny if true.

April 1 ended a long while ago here in Oz though, so it didn't cross my mind.


Yeah I thought the +0 was a joke, and thus the ludicrous price. Turns out its a real thing, jokes on me! :)

So yes, a +0 AoMF with a single weapon enhancement rated the equivalent of a +1 bonus would cost the same as a +1 bonus. I didn't see the Agile property, is it just one of the possible enhancements and I overlooked it?


Monk of the Upper Reach 4 | Separatist Cleric of Iomedae 1
Stats:
Init +4 Per +11 | AC 22/22/15 | HP 32/32 | F +6/R + 8/ W +9/+11 enchant| CMB +4/+7 trip CMD 25/27 trip | Redir 4/4

'Tis here: Agile property

April Fools would have been my plan to multiclass into barbarian!


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Agile is weird - it's in the Pathfinder Society Field Guide, but not in the PRD. You can find it here on d20pfsrd though. It's not in the tables up top however, so you have to scroll way down to find it.

Edit: Ooooor Enko can just link you right to it =)


Ah, I can never hit d20pfsrd from work so that explains my difficulty. Thanks for posting the link.


M Human Commoner/1, Expert/1

I'm afraid things are looking like I won't be back until Sunday. I actually have a modicum of phone reception on the campsite, oddly enough, but as of yet it keeps crapping out on me when I try to load the thread. I'm all caught up and were it not for the tapping feet and folded arms behind me I'd drop another fiver and write a post, but Lucon should be able to attend the meeting and nod and mumble grimly, and follow the party into whatever trouble they find.

See you in five days, folks. It's freezing down here if it makes you feel any better. :P

Dark Archive

M Human (Chelaxian) Wizard 5 (conjurer)
Stats:
Init +5 Per +4 | AC 15 (w mage armor) otherwise 11/11 | HP 35/35 | F +2/R +2/ W +5| CMB +3 CMD 15

DOH! You're waiting on me?! Sorry!

The only thing that I was waiting on was whether or not my staff could be enchanted up as a metamagic rod of lesser extend.

If not, he'd like one from the deal.

Other than that, I'm ready to rock out.


Ah dang it, you were waiting on me and I was waiting on you. My bad. To answer your question; I think it's fine if you enchant your staff as a metamagic rod of lesser extend. I remember researching the question, but never answered you. *sigh*.


Monk of the Upper Reach 4 | Separatist Cleric of Iomedae 1
Stats:
Init +4 Per +11 | AC 22/22/15 | HP 32/32 | F +6/R + 8/ W +9/+11 enchant| CMB +4/+7 trip CMD 25/27 trip | Redir 4/4

Don't you need Craft Rod to do that? I mean, I believe you can give your bonded item whatever magic qualities you want, if you have the item creation feat.


If someone can give me the definitive RAW on the deal with Rods, that'd help. I get a little lost reading about them.

Enko, it sounds like you need craft rod feat to make rods? Meaning Dellano would have to have that feat correct? Corneleous wouldn't need that feat unless he was making the thing. Am I understanding that correctly?


PRD wrote:
A wizard can add additional magic abilities to his bonded object as if he has the required item creation feats and if he meets the level prerequisites of the feat.

If Dellano doesn't outsource. :) I mean, he won't have Magic Fang either.

Dark Archive

M Human (Chelaxian) Wizard 5 (conjurer)
Stats:
Init +5 Per +4 | AC 15 (w mage armor) otherwise 11/11 | HP 35/35 | F +2/R +2/ W +5| CMB +3 CMD 15

The viscount could enchant it himself (if he had the 9th level prereq). The enchanter would have to have the feat. That's question two (the first being can a staff be enchanted as a rod).

If it's all too expensive, he might go for a hat of disguise instead.
Oh, and he should probably find a teacher to learn disguise self from 1d20 + 9 ⇒ (13) + 9 = 22 spellcraft check to learn + copy.


Male Human Witch/5
Stats:
(HP 22/22; Init +5; Perception +9; AC with mage armor: 19/14/16; AC without mage armor: 14/14/11; F+1, R+4, W+4; CMB +1, CMD: 15

Ava, please deduct another 50gp from Sabinus' loot. He wants to give that sum to someone in his backstory.


Well I'll say the staff can be enchanted as a rod. Dellano is good at acquiring and is a high level wizard himself.

The teacher isn't hard to find, in fact Dellano is the one who directed you to one.

Dark Archive

M Human (Chelaxian) Wizard 5 (conjurer)
Stats:
Init +5 Per +4 | AC 15 (w mage armor) otherwise 11/11 | HP 35/35 | F +2/R +2/ W +5| CMB +3 CMD 15

Please subtract 1500 from the Viscount's account.

He'll take a lesser rod of extend spell - it doubles the duration of 3 spells below 3rd level a day.

Extend spell


Will do!


Monk of the Upper Reach 4 | Separatist Cleric of Iomedae 1
Stats:
Init +4 Per +11 | AC 22/22/15 | HP 32/32 | F +6/R + 8/ W +9/+11 enchant| CMB +4/+7 trip CMD 25/27 trip | Redir 4/4

Best first metamagic item ever!


Fire Resist 10 Human Cleric 6,HP 40/40,Init+5F6R4W9,Per10AC18/11/17

*Waves* Good to see another group get to book 2. Hopefully you will pull off the audition better than we did. ;p


*waves back* Thanks Andrea, nice of you to say hello again. :)


Monk of the Upper Reach 4 | Separatist Cleric of Iomedae 1
Stats:
Init +4 Per +11 | AC 22/22/15 | HP 32/32 | F +6/R + 8/ W +9/+11 enchant| CMB +4/+7 trip CMD 25/27 trip | Redir 4/4

Hi Liz! Enko rolled well..out of combat. ;)

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