Arena Of The Gods (Inactive)

Game Master JTMC93

Update:
-1 Complete Character
-1 Almost Complete Character
-1 Accomplice
-The Map is laid out just need the three other terrain types.

If you go to my main account (JTM93) you will find an Email. If you can't host the stat block and would rather send it to me that way you are able to. For the Subject enter Arena Of The Gods, Your characters name, your forum ID.

Okay, sounds fine. There go the awesome mental images, though... sigh.

In any case, I'll get to work finalizing this guy, now that I know how to work with it all... you mention the stat block, and I downloaded your sample from the Google Doc. How do you want us to have them? On an alias here, on an ObsidianPortal account..?

Email or PM a link to me and I will keep track of things.

So, here's the build I'm looking at right now. I'll get to work on equipment, skills, and putting it all in the stat sheet.

`@loup

I think the idea is that nobody know te build ot he other players.

Yeah. I'm opting not to look at that spoiler block until such a time that Loup deletes it. (50 minutes to go)

If he wants people to see then let him show his build.

So, I have no idea what I'm doing yet (I'd love to do a 20th level monk, but I question the effectiveness), but here's some questions for you to rule on:

1) Craft Construct. I can't take Leadership and have an army of followers, but can I take Craft Construct and have an army of golems, if I pay for them out of my wealth?

2) Does d20pfsrd.com count as a reliable source if provided with links to Paizo-sourced content on there?

3) How are you handling wishes - are we limited to the listed effects (which are already pretty useful, but are supported by the rules) or can we wish for anything we want? Are you prepared to handle a wish such as "I wish to be the victor" or "I wish to be the only survivor of this arena"?

4) Do a monk's unarmed strikes count as "All melee weapons you are carrying" for the Lead Blades spell? If so, would this stack with enlarge person? Strong Jaw? Disclaimer: I would *not* allow Lead Blades to affect a monk in my own games, but I would allow Enlarge person and either of the others to stack

5) Do you have any objection to a character from a class which grants the Timeless Body ability (such as a druid) saying that they reached that level before taking any age penalties, but have since advanced to Venerable? Or must aging be done evenly?

1) I knew I was forgetting something... You can only have one construct servant and it must be a Shield Golem(is that the name?) and you must be a Caster.

2) If you link to Paizo-sourced cntent and I approve it you are fine. See the links in the approved section.

3) PM me your wish and see what happens. After all this is being organized by the gods themselves.

4) No, but it does stack with other bonuses.

5) You can do this.

Also if you assume a form that changes your size you gain the size bonuses and penalties.

1) I knew I was forgetting something... You can only have one construct servant and it must be a Shield Golem(is that the name?) and you must be a Caster.

I think you're thinking of the Shield Guardian which used to be a separate creature, but Paizo turned it into a template that can be applied to any golem.

Yeah thanks.

Oh, so here's a question. Permanent spell effects.

Possible or no? And if yes, how?

Permanency.

EDIT: Holy Smokes did I just Ninja Ravingdork!?

Why wouldn't they be possible? The spell permanency is likely what you're looking for.

Well yes, I know Permanency is what we're looking for.

What's the cost for example, if you don't have it on a spell list, or if you don't have the spell to be made permanent on a spell list? Or if you do, but don't know it. Is there a relevant skill to consider like UMD, or could someone hire a spellcaster to have it done if they can't do it themselves?

You know, stuff like that :P

Cost of Spell casting service

Okay, so would this be the correct equation for say, See Invisibility:

10(Caster Level) * 5(Permanency Spell Level) * 10 = 500G. Then +5000 G for the material cost of Permanency in that case.

Making 5500 G for a permanent See Invisibility from the standard spellcasting services. Correct, or no?

That seems correct.

Okie doke, thanks for the clarification :P

No Problem.

Okay, so would this be the correct equation for say, See Invisibility:

10(Caster Level) * 5(Permanency Spell Level) * 10 = 500G. Then +5000 G for the material cost of Permanency in that case.

Making 5500 G for a permanent See Invisibility from the standard spellcasting services. Correct, or no?

See invisibility is a spell which can't be made permanent on anyone aside from yourself, unfortunately. It's personal range, so there's no way to get it other than casting it yourself.

The only spells you can pay someone else to put on you are Antrhopomorphic Animal, Enlarge Person and Reduce Person, Magic Fang (regular and greater), Resistance, and Telepathic Bond. (Source).

Of course, if you have at least one rank in UMD, and at least a +9 total mod, you can cast it on yourself by buying a scroll of permanency (DC 29 to use) and a scroll of see invisibility (DC 23 to use). You'll have half an hour from successfully using the see invisibility scroll to succeed on using the permanency scroll. If you roll a 1, you wasted the see invis scroll, though.

Alternatively, you can UMD the see invis scroll, then pay for the permanency to be cast on you for the 5500 cost you calculated above.

Okay, my character is nearly finished. I just need to give him skill, a background, and format his stat block. Once all of that is done I will PM you.

@ Bobson: I felt like I was missing something obvious in my assessment. *facepalm* Thank you.

Edit: Okay, so a spellcaster can possibly do that normally, or UMD it onto themselves. So, at least the price of a scroll. And I guess low level spells (which is most of the permanent things) could also be done with a potion for non-casters?

Are you sure someone else can cast Permanency on you for an effect like that though? It says "You can make the following spells permanent in regard to yourself." I'm unsure if that restriction is only supposed to be because you can't normally cast those spells on others, or if it is particular to permanency itself. Hmm...

Hey Azaelas do you have a free spot here for me? Would be a shame if I don´t get to play my Char and the other Arena seems.....right now.

@ Bobson: I felt like I was missing something obvious in my assessment. *facepalm* Thank you.

Edit: Okay, so a spellcaster can possibly do that normally, or UMD it onto themselves. So, at least the price of a scroll. And I guess low level spells (which is most of the permanent things) could also be done with a potion for non-casters?

Are you sure someone else can cast Permanency on you for an effect like that though? It says "You can make the following spells permanent in regard to yourself." I'm unsure if that restriction is only supposed to be because you can't normally cast those spells on others, or if it is particular to permanency itself. Hmm...

Honestly, I don't know. On the one hand, you might have to cast both spells, regardless of whether they're ones that work on someone else or an area - "You first cast the desired spell and then follow it with the permanency spell." On the other, you can make "sanctify corpse" permanent on a corpse, or "magic fang" permanent on a creature, and no single-class caster can cast both permanency and either of those. As a GM, I'd allow it, but it's MotG's call.

PDKM I happily await your character.

You have to cast any spell with range personal but can have someone else cast permanency.

Sleet_Storm: I have plenty of room.

I have what 10-12 people interested and I allowed for 24. If we get 24 I will have to increase the arenas size.

You have to cast any spell with range personal but can have someone else cast permanency.

Awesome. I just grabbed scrolls of the things I needed though. Simpler that way :P

[Ironic Sarcasm]Gotta love Spontaneous Casters...[/Ironic Sarcasm]

great Now I want this forum to have a Sarcasm formatting Tag...

On a more serious note. You might see some creatures appearing in the arena. Most won't be a serious challenge for you but can give you a major disadvantage should you not take them down fast.

Interesting.

On a more serious note. You might see some creatures appearing in the arena. Most won't be a serious challenge for you but can give you a major disadvantage should you not take them down fast.

What RD said, to this.

Don't worry they will be mostly harmless as I will have to keep track of them and their abilities as well as everyone's locations. Think things like Zombies and Skeletons. Weak things just to throw in speedbumps. Oh and maybe a Golem or two ;P

Hehe, honestly, that sounds neat. I'm glad you're including them. Should spice things up a bit.

And then if the Gods get bored with us, they can just throw in a Tarrasque :)

So this doesn´t start till January 5th?

Right. But the character deadline is New Year's Eve. I figured the other arena would be over and this would give plenty of time for character building and arena designing.

Ok so can I get a list of everyone still interested?

I am still interested! Just have to find time to sit down and actually stat this guy.

Definitely interested. Close to being done, just gotta fill out a stat block appropriately, I think.

Ok there is 2. I am pretty sure RD is still in.

Hmm...

Edit: 3 confirmed counting Nicos. 4 if RD stays.

well i do not spended a couple of hour searching in the UE to withdraw now, so i am in.

I'm interested. Seems like fun.

I'm still in. Trying to sort through equipment and come in under the cap... :)

PMed you my character, so I guess I'm interested... :P

If you look on the Guideline page you can see the confirmed player list at the end.

PDKM... I can't open the file even after downloading it.

Not caring for the long wait, but I'm definitely still in.

If no more want in after I receive the listed player's characters we will start earlier.

I'm still contemplating builds. I came up with one this afternoon that I'm interested enough in to stat out - we'll see how that goes.

If I submit a character, can I send you a replacement character at a later time if we haven't started yet? Or am I locked in once I send one?

It might be another monk...

^ I'm curious about this too. I wanted to take Gorik to level 20 as well, and see what he looked like at that point.

You can replace a character as long we haven't started. but you lose any favors gained under the previous character.

Okay, I sent you another link. You should be able to access this one.

You can replace a character as long we haven't started. but you lose any favors gained under the previous character.

That's what I figured.

Question: Qinggong monks have the option to give up any of a list of powers. This has led to a lot of debate over whether they stack with (almost) any monk archetype (with you being unable to choose to give up something the regular archetype has replaced) or with (almost) no archetypes (because they can alter every ability, so nothing doesn't overlap). PCGen supports the former, while Herolab supports the latter.

To the best of my knowledge, there hasn't been any developer input. How do you rule?