Secret Wizard |
Oh, please. I prefer to think of myself as a carefully worded wish spell.
Make sure to realise at higher levels that your character is so lethal that she can shift the parameters of what makes someone weak or strong by her own choice of slitting a certain type of people's throats or not!
By the way, in the previous page:
- Culler Drow Warpriest
- Dissolver Syrinx Alchemist
- Deranged Hermit Monkey Goblin Monk
GM_MatsuKeiji |
Oh, please. I prefer to think of myself as a carefully worded wish spell.
Make sure to realise at higher levels that your character is so lethal that she can shift the parameters of what makes someone weak or strong by her own choice of slitting a certain type of people's throats or not!
I see and understand, she will be glorious!
Gluttony |
BETTER CROSS OUT MONKEY GOBLIN BECAUSE THE DERANGED HERMIT IS HERE
Awesome, and I feel like you may have captured the fighting style of Monkey D. Luffy in this one.
As soon as I can figure out a good way to add significant reach to unarmed strikes I think I'm gonna build Luffy as a human with Racial Heritage (Monkey Goblin) and this archetype.
Just a note though: you've mixed pronouns a bit in the writeup. Generally a class (or archetype) description picks either male or female pronouns based on their iconic (so in this case I guess it would be male pronouns, because of Sajan), and sticks to them all the way through.
The Golux |
Wayang Swashbuckler? Throw pieces of shadow-stuff into your enemies eyes and laugh mockingly. Or use shadow-stuff instead of a buckler in a defensive way. I guess my point is I'd really like to see something with shadows :)
A cape made of shadows to deflect attacks. Could work for a fetchling too, maybe even better.
Mystic_Snowfang |
A repost from the last thread
Android Oracle- Something that uses int in place of cha for casting and social stuff. Maybe somehow seeking to become human (think Data)
Goblin Antipaladin- With fire, and lots of singing, and more fire
Catfolk Investigator- Focusing on nine lives and felines being notoriously curious about everything and really a bit nosy. Maybe swapping int stuff for cha stuff.
Skinwalker monk- Focusing on using swift shapeshifting and advancing natural weapons like one advances unarmed strikes.
boring7 |
Kobold Slayer or bard- According to 3e fluff, the god (and the race) were created by Tiamat to serve her will as skilled specialists. Since rogue stinks on toast, how about a non-rogue class that works for the infinitely-skilled majordomo of a great and powerful noble (which all dragons consider themselves to be). Not sure if it should have magic, but it should definitely be able to play squire, fixer, and head servant for someone who is legendary in both power and mood swings.
Secret Wizard |
1. Android Gunslinger was requested previously, and I've concepted it already. May switch it to Android Hunter though, since I think I could do something cool from that.
2. For Luffy builds, Marid Style and Lunge should work. Feel free to take the archetype without racial heritage, only few archetypes get truly broken that way (Quillback, Vanquisher).
3. And yeah I'm erratic about pronouns.
4. Hermea is a Waves oracle.
5. I'm planning to add a new ability to the Kulit Jester Wayang that deals with cloak fighting.
Gluttony |
Might be shoehorning you a bit too much into a strict concept here, but I don't recall any Ifrit suggestions yet, so how about:
Flame Keeper. Ifrit Ranger.
The Flame Keeper knows the threat of fire first-hand, and knows that to properly use it to your advantage you must be able to understand, control, and combat it.
Fight fire with fire, basically. Ranger seemed thematic due to forest fires and such, but maybe another class would work better. I dunno.
Thanis Kartaleon |
4. Hermea is a Waves oracle.
Sorry, I meant this Hermea. The gold dragon utopia one. Obviously a gold dragon bloodline does the trick, but I'm wondering if the 'supposedly perfect utopia with disconcerting cracks' aspect of the island nation could be played up within an archetype.
Ciaran Barnes |
Just put a Google docs document or link a PDF.
By the way, we work on a request basis.
I see. Well, I suggested a halfling slinger on the previous thread and someone gave it a like, so I decided to write it. I wanted to run it through you to match your style. Its all good though. I'll post a link later. Hopefully you have some input.
Bandw2 |
I've hit a bit of a dead end with my dhampir hunter, namely, I don't have much knowledge of undead and can't think of foci in near the same quantity as normal hunter's.
I want a fast undead, a climby undead, an undead with some special sensory ability, and any other suggestions.
This is the rest of the Dhampir Hunter, Undead Apostate archetype however.
CalethosVB |
The Nanite Multitool isn't an Oracle as someone earlier asked for, but a Cleric instead.
Nothing too far gone from the familiar, just a simple palette swap.
Lord-of-Boggards |
Can I officially request a summoner? I don't care too much about race but I would prefer if you did one of the races not native to Golarian like the Kasatha, Triaxian, Eoxian(Perhaps an undead theme?), or Lushunta(probably not this one cause you have your own plans for em). Whatever you feel gives the most flavor. You have a good sense for flavor. I think not many people give summoners love and I really like the off world setting stuff.
Or if you really don't want to do a summoner perhaps a Wyrwood hunter? with construct companions?
Azten |
The Nanite Multitool isn't an Oracle as someone earlier asked for, but a Cleric instead.
Nothing too far gone from the familiar, just a simple palette swap.
And then I never played another healer...
christos gurd |
I've hit a bit of a dead end with my dhampir hunter, namely, I don't have much knowledge of undead and can't think of foci in near the same quantity as normal hunter's.
I want a fast undead, a climby undead, an undead with some special sensory ability, and any other suggestions.
This is the rest of the Dhampir Hunter, Undead Apostate archetype however.
would you mind terribly if i take one of these on? Ive designed summoner archetypes before and i find a lashunta "enlightened" eidolon inspiring.
Kobold Catgirl |
Cyrad wrote:Maybe consider my homebrew race the Runari when you're finished with the base races? It's a race that reveres runes and constructs, believing themselves descended from golems given flesh by their goddess. Their major racial trait lets them transcribe a spell from a scroll onto their body and cast it as a spell-like ability. A fellow on the other thread requested them as well.Thanks for the link! I am interested in getting to these, they look very well developed.
The first custom race I have to get to are Pygmy Otagyuhs though.
Whoa, really? That was honestly a joke. If its limitations give you too much trouble, feel free to skip by to one of the less problematic ones. :P
Also, this is just a point of curiosity, but would you be open to old 3.5 races like the dvati or the tibbit? I'm assuming you'd require them to be converted up.
Secret Wizard |
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NEXT UP:
- Duergar Inquisitor, based upon force spells, unarmed combat and some custom inquisitions - one for grappling and abduction; one for reverence of the deep earth; and the last one for enduring the endless toil of life.
- Halfling Gunslinger, using slings - the hook of this one is less flavor and more mechanics, since as he is unable to have full iteratives with a sling, he clusters all of his iterative attacks in one big hit -- or is able to ricochet them against several enemies simultaneously. Being able to use several types of bullets is also a hallmark of this archie.
BUT I won't be able to sit down and post these for a while.
To tide you over until then, here's the ULTRA MARINE, UNDINE FIGHTER.
I'm planning to make a Undine Swashbuckler as it was requested, but I had this idea of trying to make as many puns as I could fathom.
How many of them can you see?
Bandw2 |
Bandw2 wrote:would you mind terribly if i take one of these on? Ive designed summoner archetypes before and i find a lashunta "enlightened" eidolon inspiring.I've hit a bit of a dead end with my dhampir hunter, namely, I don't have much knowledge of undead and can't think of foci in near the same quantity as normal hunter's.
I want a fast undead, a climby undead, an undead with some special sensory ability, and any other suggestions.
This is the rest of the Dhampir Hunter, Undead Apostate archetype however.
i have no idea what you're talking about so i'll assume you quoted me on accident?
Cyrad RPG Superstar Season 9 Top 16 |
The one thing I don't really like about these archetypes is the formatting. You don't need the fancy bolding, different colors, multiple fonts, huge font sizes, and the like. It's distracting. Just keep it simple. Look at the style in publications. They keep it simple to just bolding, italics, indentation, and headlines. They do this because it's easier to read and easier for production to apply a global style sheet. It will be a total nightmare if you're planning to publish these.
christos gurd |
christos gurd wrote:i have no idea what you're talking about so i'll assume you quoted me on accident?Bandw2 wrote:would you mind terribly if i take one of these on? Ive designed summoner archetypes before and i find a lashunta "enlightened" eidolon inspiring.I've hit a bit of a dead end with my dhampir hunter, namely, I don't have much knowledge of undead and can't think of foci in near the same quantity as normal hunter's.
I want a fast undead, a climby undead, an undead with some special sensory ability, and any other suggestions.
This is the rest of the Dhampir Hunter, Undead Apostate archetype however.
meh, my phone doesn't play nice with this website.
CalethosVB |
CalethosVB wrote:And then I never played another healer...The Nanite Multitool isn't an Oracle as someone earlier asked for, but a Cleric instead.
Nothing too far gone from the familiar, just a simple palette swap.
I don't know how to interpret this comment. Good? Bad? Holy cow, it's broken?
Kobold Catgirl |
I think the biggest problem is that the fast healing ability is already pretty dang good even without a nasty confusion ability (keep in mind confusion is a fourth level spell). I think the archetype might need to lose something to be more balanced. It's a really cool and creative ability.
Maybe drastically reduce the channel area? Or nerf the confusion ability a bit? 1+1/2 level might be a more suitable duration, for instance, keeping it from being quite so nuts at low levels.
Gluttony |
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NEXT UP:
- Duergar Inquisitor, based upon force spells, unarmed combat and some custom inquisitions - one for grappling and abduction; one for reverence of the deep earth; and the last one for enduring the endless toil of life.
- Halfling Gunslinger, using slings - the hook of this one is less flavor and more mechanics, since as he is unable to have full iteratives with a sling, he clusters all of his iterative attacks in one big hit -- or is able to ricochet them against several enemies simultaneously. Being able to use several types of bullets is also a hallmark of this archie.
BUT I won't be able to sit down and post these for a while.
To tide you over until then, here's the ULTRA MARINE, UNDINE FIGHTER.
I'm planning to make a Undine Swashbuckler as it was requested, but I had this idea of trying to make as many puns as I could fathom.How many of them can you see?
The Ultra Marine's proficiencies really should say that they alter the fighter's normal weapon proficiencies, not that they replace them. As-written, this archetype has no proficiencies with anything other than nets.
...Or if that was the intention, then you missed a huge opportunity to call the ability 'Nothing But Net'.
Lord Vukodlak |
- Halfling Gunslinger, using slings - the hook of this one is less flavor and more mechanics, since as he is unable to have full iteratives with a sling, he clusters all of his iterative attacks in one big hit -- or is able to ricochet them against several enemies simultaneously. Being able to use several types of bullets is also a hallmark of this archie.
Given that its an archtype couldn't it have an ability to load slings faster? Furthermore the alternate racial trait for Halflings "Warslinger" lets them reload slings as a free action.
Just two things to consider when designing the archtype.
Azten |
Azten wrote:I don't know how to interpret this comment. Good? Bad? Holy cow, it's broken?CalethosVB wrote:And then I never played another healer...The Nanite Multitool isn't an Oracle as someone earlier asked for, but a Cleric instead.
Nothing too far gone from the familiar, just a simple palette swap.
Look at it this way. At first level a regular cleric channels energy for 1-6 points of healing. A nanite multitool channels for 5 points. Yes, that over 1 point at a time for five rounds, but it's still better at out of combat healing, which is when most clerics end up channeling energy.
Kobold Catgirl |
It does hurt one of the more important uses of Channel, though—bringing people up when you can't reach them.
Plus, just healing everyone ten points ends up taking up a minute. That can really hurt if the group wants to quickly heal and then push on and keep what buffs they have.
I think if you just eliminated confusion altogether (or weakened it substantially and made it the equivalent of a negative channeler), it would probably balance out. You lose some combat versatility, but do get to heal more overall.
CalethosVB |
Look at it this way. At first level a regular cleric channels energy for 1-6 points of healing. A nanite multitool channels for 5 points. Yes, that over 1 point at a time for five rounds, but it's still better at out of combat healing, which is when most clerics end up channeling energy.
I changed it to only be a 15-foot burst instead of a 30-foot burst. The nanite multitool has to get much closer to her intended victims/targets. This ability also doesn't qualify as channeling positive or negative energy, which means you can't use it to pick up undead controlling feats.
Also, at 3rd level, the NM is still healing for 5 points per nanite burst, whereas a standard cleric is healing for 2-12 points. This picks up at 4th level to 10 points, versus standard cleric again at 5th level becomes 3-18 points. It's consistent healing over time, but not as good or bad as a standard cleric's channeling could be.
There is also a separate confused condition. The confusion spell gives targets this condition. This ability is not counted as that spell or as a spell-like ability, which means the only way its DC goes up is if your class level or your Intelligence goes up, or you pick up something that specifically increases the DC of Channel Energy.
Also can't use variant channeling with this guy since he doesn't channel positive or negative.
The Android race has a bunch of significant drawbacks (WTF is a Bard or a Barbarian?). This presents an archetype that grants strengths instead.
Makeitstop |
For ease of reference, I went through the old thread and made a list of the requests.
Unfulfilled requests so far, sorted by race, in the order requested:
Skinwalker Summmoner, ragebred slayer, gunslinger, druid, cleric, barbarian, monk, sorcerer, alchemist
Faun
Grindylow
Bugbear
Dogfolk
Azlanti Scion
Grippli Subtypes
Vanara subtypes
Elan
Elemental blooded (oread, Undine, etc) gunslinger
Duergar cleric, druid.
Elf Arcanist, Sorcerer, Wizard, Witch, Fighter, Brawler, samurai, magus
Awakened Housecat Cleric
Sylph Bloodrager, Shaman, witch
Wraith Hunter
Svirfneblin fighter
Anumus Alchemist
Mahrog Wizard
Obitu Paladin, Samurai
Darakhul Oracle
Gearforged Druid.
Dwarf Swashbuckler, blackblade barbarian
Lizardfolk
P'Tan
Half elf Ninja, Slayer
Gnoll mounted archer/slaver hyenaedon rider cavalier, ranger, barbarian or samurai...
Android alchemist, investigator, oracle, barbarian, brawler, druid
Darkfolk Wizard
Mite Ranger
Kasatha Gunslinger, magus, oracle Skald, Hunter, Warpriest, summoner
Ifrit alchemists, bloodrager, ranger
Human slayer, samurai, cleric, paladin, soul-knife, sorceror, arcanist
Half-orc slayer
Vanara Inquisitor
Maenad vitalist
Half-giant bard
Runari
Half-dwarf
Minotaur Bard
Drider Cavlier
Centaur cavalier
Halfling, brawler
Ghoran druid, hunter, ranger
Requests for races that already have at least one archetype on the reddit page
Aasimir Cavalier
Catfolk Hunter, something ranged, samurai, investigator
Changeling Paladin.
Dhampir Occultist, Shaman, swashbuckler, samurai, cleric, bloodrager
Grippli Gunslinger, investigator, bard
Goblin Bloodrager, slayer, antipaladin
Merfolk Sorcerer, paladin
Monkey Goblin Swashbuckler
Kitsune bard, Slayer, Samurai, sorceror
Kobold bloodrager or sorcerer.
orc monk, brawler,
Oread commoner, brawler
Ratfolk inquisitor, monk, war priest, Witch
Samsaran Fighter, Diviner or Oracle, magus, summoner, monk, alchemist
Strix Barbarian
Suli Sorcerer, Paladin
Syrinx Monk
Tengu investigator
Tiefling, class slayer/rogue, swashbuclker, investigator, paladin, magus
Vishkanya Alchemist, fighter, bloodrager
Wayang Wizard, Witch, Psychic Archetyppe, swashbuckler
Andostre |
For ease of reference, I went through the old thread and made a list of the requests.
Nice list! One addendum:
The Obitu Samurai request also mentioned a Samurai/Cavalier Order specific to Obitu, if that makes for better options.
No rush, of course. I know the 3rd party races are not the priority.
Makeitstop |
Makeitstop wrote:For ease of reference, I went through the old thread and made a list of the requests.Nice list! One addendum:
The Obitu Samurai request also mentioned a Samurai/Cavalier Order specific to Obitu, if that makes for better options.
No rush, of course. I know the 3rd party races are not the priority.
Yeah, sorry about that, I rushed through and mostly omitted the longer descriptions simply because I was aiming for readability and documentation, so we could quickly see what combinations had already been proposed. I omitted my brief, rambling thoughts on my races as well.
Andostre |
Yeah, sorry about that, I rushed through and mostly omitted the longer descriptions simply because I was aiming for readability and documentation, so we could quickly see what combinations had already been proposed. I omitted my brief, rambling thoughts on my races as well.
No worries.