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SylverFox wrote:

Had a little touch of inspiration when one of my players complained about how lackluster the red mantis assassin PrC was. I thought it would fit in here:

Crimsonscale Enforcer - Nagaji Bloodrager

This is really cool, I was just planning out a character along these same lines and this will be really helpful.


SylverFox wrote:

Had a little touch of inspiration when one of my players complained about how lackluster the red mantis assassin PrC was. I thought it would fit in here:

Crimsonscale Enforcer - Nagaji Bloodrager

That's really neat, though I'm not sure Bloodrager matches the flavor of a Red Mantis Assassin well -- Rage is not really their thing, as it prevents Stealth, Bluffing, etc.

I think it'd be easier to make this into an Occultist archetype or something.

Morganstern wrote:

I've looked around and can't tell if this has been requested or not, so here it goes:

Half-Elven Swashbuckler (two-weapon fighting focused swashbuckler, drawing heavily from characters like Kirito from Sword Art Online. Focused heavily on rapid assault and battlefield movement, less on targeted strikes or feinting, but using finesse to deal lots of damage.)

I'd say this would fit the Fighter more as a concept. It actually sounds like something based on the Dervish of Dawn + Martial Master or Drill Sergeant archetypes.

I'd probably build it off Dervish of Dawn + Martial Master:

S14 D16+2 C12 I12 W10 CH8

1. Weapon Finesse, Weapon Focus, Two-Weapon Fighting
2. Dodge
3. Iron Will
4. Weapon Spec
5. Double Slice
6. Improved Two-Weapon Fighting
7. Power Attack
8. Improved Crit
9. Critical Focus
10. Step Up
11. Two-Weapon Rend
12. Greater Two-Weapon Fighting

At this point you are doing full attacks while moving at the expense of one attack, but you remain mobile, can use Martial Flexibility to pull all sorts of tricks.


Great work on the archetypes, and I wish you the best for your book.

However, I found two things with the Bloodtaster archetype I'd like to note, in hopes it helps you:

-He changes his his normal spellbook for one made of charred flesh. Can he still write in spells normally? I'd say yes, as the change seems mostly cosmetic, but clarification would be nice.
-At 7th level, he recieves an ability that rewards him for rolling his damage dice (bonus CL for each 4), and then at 8th, one that allows him to roll less dice... that seems to not have much sinnergy. How about loosing 3 less hp per point used? The efect, on average, is similar to rolling one less dice, but still allows you to roll it and get those 4s.


Nice feedback, should figure into the final version.


Are you still taking suggestions for this? If so, I wouldn't mind seeing a Catfolk Kineticist and/or Obitu Monk archetype.


Secret Wizard wrote:
SylverFox wrote:

Had a little touch of inspiration when one of my players complained about how lackluster the red mantis assassin PrC was. I thought it would fit in here:

Crimsonscale Enforcer - Nagaji Bloodrager
That's really neat, though I'm not sure Bloodrager matches the flavor of a Red Mantis Assassin well -- Rage is not really their thing, as it prevents Stealth, Bluffing, etc.

Good point, maybe give it the urban barbarian's controlled rage ability?


SylverFox wrote:

Had a little touch of inspiration when one of my players complained about how lackluster the red mantis assassin PrC was. I thought it would fit in here:

Crimsonscale Enforcer - Nagaji Bloodrager

This is a really interesting idea and I dig it. But since you've skipped over the vast majority of the mantis flavor from the assassin PrC you might be able to open this up a bit: make this open to any follower of an assassin god, give proficiency with said deity's favored weapon.

I definitely agree with WWsmashWW that controlled rage would work really well with this archetype too.


The other problem is not being able to cast while dual wielding.


Secret Wizard wrote:
The other problem is not being able to cast while dual wielding.

Weapon cords can take care of that for a move action. Or, if you're really starved for action economy, the called weapon property can do it in a swift.


Threadomancy, revive the thread!


Name a class.


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Tengu Occultist, because collecting shiny things is very raven-like?


Wayang/Drow/etc witch that gets all the shadow spells(Shado Evo, Shadow Conj, Shadow Enchantment, Shades, and so on) and focuses hard on them, probably has the same "prepare spells in a shadow" as the Shadowcaster Wizard and loses a few hexes in exchange for Shadow/Illusion focused abilities.


Any chance for a homebrew / monster archetype? I'd love a soulbound doll archetype for Wizard or Cleric.

As for PC soulbound dolls, tiny constructs with vunerability to fire and either acid or cold, with -4 str, + 2 int +4 dex


Azten wrote:
Tengu Occultist, because collecting shiny things is very raven-like?

I got it done but it's so good I'm saving it for the book :I

Scarab Sages

Changeling Spiritualist. I am thinking something along the lines of summoning her Hag mother as her phantom.


Segovax wrote:
Changeling Spiritualist. I am thinking something along the lines of summoning her Hag mother as her phantom.

So basically my wife.


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(I don't really have a wife)


Have you already made a tiefling bloodrager archetype? Given the reliance on bloodline it seems like that'd be a clear fit, though it might be limited to abberant, abyssal, black blood, infernal, and kyton?


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I'm game.

Coyote. (From Native American legend.)

Dark Archive

Race - Grimspwan Teifling
Class - Cleric or Paladin
Concept - A cleric or paladin that is imbued with the demonic powers of the four horsemen. He uses the powers of Pestilence, Famine, War, and Death to do his bidding. He has a familiar that is a Thestral http://bit.ly/1mAEUaU which serves as a mount


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Race - Kitsune
Class - Something with a familiar, see below
Concept - Uses Fox Shape and a fox familiar to confuse and flank enemies. Lots of teamwork feats for the kitsune and familiar possibly?


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Secret Wizard wrote:
Azten wrote:
Tengu Occultist, because collecting shiny things is very raven-like?
I got it done but it's so good I'm saving it for the book :I

I'm both disappointed I don't get to see it and excited because I don't get to see it because it's going in something!


EltonJ wrote:

I'm game.

Coyote. (From Native American legend.)

Wizard -- has a lot of tricks up his sleave.


Pathfinder Rulebook, Starfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber

My favorite thing to play is a Lizardfolk Hellknight. I've done it twice and both times it has paid off amazingly. Think you can give me a full BAB type archetype for lizardfolk to consider?


Artifix wrote:

Race - Kitsune

Class - Something with a familiar, see below
Concept - Uses Fox Shape and a fox familiar to confuse and flank enemies. Lots of teamwork feats for the kitsune and familiar possibly?

Can't edit quoted, but the class doesn't have to normally have familiar. Just a way to get a fox companion.


You could do this with an Eldritch Gaurdian Fighter and a Mauler familiar, I think.


Vanara Monk or brawler archtype, in the style of Sun Wukong from journey to the east books, i would love to see how this would work out.

Also if you have time could you homebrew Sun Wukong's staff, it would differently be an artifact weapon.


wintersrage wrote:

Vanara Monk or brawler archtype, in the style of Sun Wukong from journey to the east books, i would love to see how this would work out.

Also if you have time could you homebrew Sun Wukong's staff, it would differently be an artifact weapon.

Sorry i ment from Journey to the west not east


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I'd be interested in seeing a vishkanya or nagaji mesmirist.


ErichTehRed wrote:
nagaji mesmirist

HA! A literal snake charmer. I love it! :P


Penumbral Shadow wrote:
ErichTehRed wrote:
nagaji mesmirist
HA! A literal snake charmer. I love it! :P

Not a snake charmer- a charmer snake. There's a difference.


I'd like to see a:
Skinwalker Bloodrager or Druid (Something that can transform. A sort of wildshape from level 1, with extra lycanthropic options, would be cool.)
Changeling Witch (Dreamweaver is a pretty questionable quality archetype. Changelings deserve to be awesome caster-booster team players. Plus, there are currently no options that allow a Changeling to become an actual hag- that would be an interesting capstone or sub-capstone.)
Aasimar Kineticist (There is no such thing as a pure light blast. I kinda want to see that, though. Perhaps limited to Aether, Fire, and Air, but able to pick up a lantern archon-like basic blast.)
Gnome Skald (I'd find it hilarious to be insulted then raged at by a gnome. Especially if it had the strength and damage to back its threats up.)


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Skinwalker Bloodrager or Druid (Something that can transform. A sort of wildshape from level 1, with extra lycanthropic options, would be cool.)

There's something like this in book 2 ;)

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Gnome Skald (I'd find it hilarious to be insulted then raged at by a gnome. Especially if it had the strength and damage to back its threats up.)

I kid you not, right before I read your post, I was reading wikipedia articles on the tradition of insults in skald poetry for no reason in particular ;)

(It's actually quite interesting, you should give it a look).


A ki based Gnome focused on finding the answers to unanswerable questions just because of Bewildering Koan!

Also give him lots of language or ways of learning them fast so he can ask anyone.


I would like to see a Vanara Monk or brawler archtype, in the style of Sun Wukong from journey to the west books, i would love to see how this would work out.

Also if you have time could you homebrew Sun Wukong's staff, it would differently be an artifact weapon.


My Self wrote:


Aasimar Kineticist (There is no such thing as a pure light blast. I kinda want to see that, though. Perhaps limited to Aether, Fire, and Air, but able to pick up a lantern archon-like basic blast.)

N. Jolly made a light element in his Kineticists of Porphyra PDF. It's pretty awesome, and not race restricted.


So do we have a list of what races don't have archetypes yet?


I don't know if you are accepting non-paizo races yet, but perhaps an witch archetype for the Gelfid by Necromancers of the Northwest. A witch that uses it's host as a familiar.


The mutant...

A human Alchemist archetype that gains evolution points as they level up. So they can "mutate" themselves, such as giving themselves Hooves so they can be a satyr. Fits with the mad scientist feel of the alchemist, but would be fun in general.


Secret Wizard wrote:
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Skinwalker Bloodrager or Druid (Something that can transform. A sort of wildshape from level 1, with extra lycanthropic options, would be cool.)

There's something like this in book 2 ;)

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Gnome Skald (I'd find it hilarious to be insulted then raged at by a gnome. Especially if it had the strength and damage to back its threats up.)

I kid you not, right before I read your post, I was reading wikipedia articles on the tradition of insults in skald poetry for no reason in particular ;)

(It's actually quite interesting, you should give it a look).

Book one is finished? Where can I buy it? What's the name?


Gotta wait for the editing u.u

I'll post links when it's up for purchase!

(Hot facts: I also got books 2 and 3 mostly done, but lets see if this one sells)


Idea: A Tengu Swashbuckler that exchanges panache and deeds for a ki pool and a series of monk/ninja style abilities keyed on the pool like abundant step, or acrobatic master. Basically a mentally focused, super agile, sword based duelist class.


Penumbral Shadow wrote:
Idea: A Tengu Swashbuckler that exchanges panache and deeds for a ki pool and a series of monk/ninja style abilities keyed on the pool like abundant step, or acrobatic master. Basically a mentally focused, super agile, sword based duelist class.

Seems like that might work better as an unchained monk archetype. Give it a "Flurry of Blades" which can be done with one handed slashing weapons as long as the other hand is empty, give it light armor proficiency and trade parts of the monk kit that are inappropriate (like Wis to AC) for the vital parts of the swashbuckler kit (like swashbuckler's finesse).


How about the 'Paris to Dakar'? There's a race I'd like to see an archtype for that's worth playing.


SylverFox wrote:
Penumbral Shadow wrote:
Idea: A Tengu Swashbuckler that exchanges panache and deeds for a ki pool and a series of monk/ninja style abilities keyed on the pool like abundant step, or acrobatic master. Basically a mentally focused, super agile, sword based duelist class.
Seems like that might work better as an unchained monk archetype. Give it a "Flurry of Blades" which can be done with one handed slashing weapons as long as the other hand is empty, give it light armor proficiency and trade parts of the monk kit that are inappropriate (like Wis to AC) for the vital parts of the swashbuckler kit (like swashbuckler's finesse).

You had me at Flurry of Blades. Maybe it could even pick up some Iaijutsu type stuff.


Is there any update on this project?

Silver Crusade

Human Samurai without mount and armor(or with light armor). Focused on Iaijutsu. (Sword Saint is just... awful).


Well, I got paid for my work but no news on when the book will be released. Considering I can't post those archetypes, I was thinking of sharing what I had in store for book 2.

Anyone interested?


Me! (Also, I replied to your email...)

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