Announced! Cover image is a mockup and subject to change.
My wallet aches.
Do want!
I think I just swooned.
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DROOL...
And to typecast myself terribly: planar locations? :D
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Row closer! Valeros wants to hit it with his sword!
This looks terrific. Where is the cover from, by the way?
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I am not sure about this one since I am still on the fence about the hole mythic thing anyway. I was hoping mythic realms were about mythic realms that you know had nothing to do with mythic rules. Like a book that talked about the first world, plane of time, plane of dreams, etc.
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Row closer! Valeros wants to hit it with his sword!
Merisiel: "This is not what I had in mind when I said I felt like having calamari for dinner!"
Yessss. I think this will be very useful for my Mythic post-serpent's skull game.
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I am not sure about this one since I am still on the fence about the hole mythic thing anyway. I was hoping mythic realms were about mythic realms that you know had nothing to do with mythic rules. Like a book that talked about the first world, plane of time, plane of dreams, etc.
While I am more confident about the Mythic rules overall....and do want this book...
I kinda agree I would like to see places like the First World and stuff like that explored at some point. Which I am pretty sure it will be.(I am going on a limb here but my guess is that Fey Revisited will have First World stuff in it).
But I can be patient.
I kinda agree I would like to see places like the First World and stuff like that explored at some point. Which I am pretty sure it will be.(I am going on a limb here but my guess is that Fey Revisited will have First World stuff in it).
Hmm. My guess is that Paizo probably wants to make sure 'mythic' exists on Golarion itself before expanding things into the planes. But yea, I'd also be interested in seeing things expanding into the First World and such.
DO WANT.
Mythic, overall, is something I'm VERY interested in.
This looks terrific. Where is the cover from, by the way?
Steve, I'm not 100% sure ... but I think it's artwork from "From Shore to Sea" the Pathfinder Module by Brandon Hodge.
I'm sure if I'm wrong, someone will correct me. ;)
~Dean
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This is coming out in September. My birthday is in September.
Pretty sure this means I'm Mythic...
It's by Craig Spearing and it's from Skull & Shackles #4: Island of Empty Eyes. You can find the piece HERE. :)
Very cool.
This looks to be a very cool cook!
It'll be interesting to see what things alluded to in the Inner Sea Guide are called out as mythic.
So... explore the Isle of Terror, slay Tar Baphon, and claim the Starstone? Sold!
Oinodaemon...please?
Hardback! Very interesting.
Hardback! Very interesting.
*blinks* Where do you see that this is hardback? The only reference to anything hardback, as far as I can tell, is the phrase...
The must-have expansion to the Pathfinder Roleplaying Game’s newest and most ambitious hardcover, Mythic Adventures, this guide to epic legends, secret places of power, and mythic hotspots infuses the Pathfinder campaign setting with phenomenal new power.
...which indicates, to me at least, that Mythic Realms will be a companion to the hardcover Mythic Adventures, not that Mythic Realms will be a hardcover.
Not that I'd mind a hardcover Mythic Realms, mind you! :)
Hardback! Very interesting.*blinks* Where do you see that this is hardback? The only reference to anything hardback, as far as I can tell, is the phrase...
The must-have expansion to the Pathfinder Roleplaying Game’s newest and most ambitious hardcover, Mythic Adventures, this guide to epic legends, secret places of power, and mythic hotspots infuses the Pathfinder campaign setting with phenomenal new power....which indicates, to me at least, that Mythic Realms will be a companion to the hardcover Mythic Adventures, not that Mythic Realms will be a hardcover.
Not that I'd mind a hardcover Mythic Realms, mind you! :)
Misinterpretation on my part....d'oh!
Dammit. I was hoping I'd missed something! :)
As a Campaign Setting book it will be 64 pages.
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Intriguing!
How will this book be set out? Will it focus on say 6 specific locations like Dungeons of Golarion or Lost Cities of Golarion, or is it broader in scope?
It's not organized really like any other book we've done. You'll recognize some stuff, but the exact elements don't follow the overall format of another book.
Are the Mythic Rules the necessary element to write up more of Casmaron/Kelesh Empire?
Or is that also hinging on Psionics like Vudra is?
If there is nothing on the Starstone I will be sorely disappointed. But one can't judge a book with what it doesn't have without first knowing what it covers.
We can't do Casmaron without Vudra, and thus can't do Casmaron without psionics.Are the Mythic Rules the necessary element to write up more of Casmaron/Kelesh Empire?
Or is that also hinging on Psionics like Vudra is?
Have you considered, or at least taken a look at, Dreamscarred Press's books?
They've taken 3.5 psionics and put them through the wringer until they're actually good and reasonably balanced, and with a lot more variety than the original. You could do a lot worse than integrate their stuff.
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We can't do Casmaron without Vudra, and thus can't do Casmaron without psionics.Are the Mythic Rules the necessary element to write up more of Casmaron/Kelesh Empire?
Or is that also hinging on Psionics like Vudra is?Have you considered, or at least taken a look at, Dreamscarred Press's books?
They've taken 3.5 psionics and put them through the wringer until they're actually good and reasonably balanced, and with a lot more variety than the original. You could do a lot worse than integrate their stuff.
I've looked at Dreamscarred's books, yeah. They're the logical starting place for what we want to do with psychic magic, but they won't work as-is, since we're not going to do a point-based system for this type of magic. Which is why we're calling it psychic magic and not psionics–it's based on the same concept (magic/supernatural powers from the mind) but it's not the same rules. The actual rules will likely work just like magic... but will be a new category that exists alongside the categories of "arcane" and "divine" magic.
I have never liked psionics, but the above idea I like.
The challenge clearly is, why have we not seen any mind mages in the Inner Sea until now. I imagine its a similar retcon to the gunslinger.
I've looked at Dreamscarred's books, yeah. They're the logical starting place for what we want to do with psychic magic, but they won't work as-is, since we're not going to do a point-based system for this type of magic. Which is why we're calling it psychic magic and not psionics–it's based on the same concept (magic/supernatural powers from the mind) but it's not the same rules. The actual rules will likely work just like magic... but will be a new category that exists alongside the categories of "arcane" and "divine" magic.
This is exciting. I have yet to allow psionics in any game I've run because I have yet to find a ruleset I like.
Dreamscarred's book is pretty good, but still not quite what I'm looking for.
I also like that idea for psychic magic, never liked the point system for psionics.
We can't do Casmaron without Vudra, and thus can't do Casmaron without psionics.Are the Mythic Rules the necessary element to write up more of Casmaron/Kelesh Empire?
Or is that also hinging on Psionics like Vudra is?
Well, damn. Makes sense though, especially if there's enough contact between them (currently, and historically re: Ninshabur) that you want to do up the whole area like the Inner Sea Region was done up. Having that ONE satrapy of Kelesh (Qadira) detailed and on the map, but not the rest is a brutal tease, but I'm sure it'll be great when you get around to it. New rules for psionics/etc aren't really my main interest, but I can see why it would be more problematic to write up the region first and then try to ret-con in that material.
(I won't complain if in the meantime you want to do some modules or AP installments that touch upon more marginal areas of Casmaron, like Iblydos Island, the Windswept Wastes to the East of Taldor, or the North where Iobaria/Zavaten Gura/Kaladay/Erutaki/Casmar or other cultures/creatures might mingle... And then there's the Kelesh/Vudrani culture countries in Southern Garund.)
We're not going to do a point-based system for this type of magic. Which is why we're calling it psychic magic and not psionics–it's based on the same concept (magic/supernatural powers from the mind) but it's not the same rules. The actual rules will likely work just like magic... but will be a new category that exists alongside the categories of "arcane" and "divine" magic.
Sounds great. I never liked the idea of creating new classes whose features mostly do exactly the same things, but for some reason they aren't considered to be casting Fireball/Dominate Person/etc. I think this approach is alot more amenable to including these classes/monsters in normal Campaign Setting material even for people who don't generally use the Psionic Rules material. Calling it 'psychic magic' (not using the phrase 'psionic') is a good approach given some of the expectations some people have re: 'psionics', it's putting it out front exactly what you're doing with this. Do you expect to implement it via new classes, archetypes/alt-versions of existing classes, or both?
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I have never liked psionics, but the above idea I like.
The challenge clearly is, why have we not seen any mind mages in the Inner Sea until now. I imagine its a similar retcon to the gunslinger.
It's not a retcon at all.
There are some monsters in the Inner Sea region who use what is essentially psychic magic in the form of spell-like abilities, like intellect devourers, seugathi, and neothelids.
Psychic magic using character classes will remain rare in the Inner Sea region even after we detail the rules—they'll primarially be classes who operate in Casmaron (mostly in Vudra), simliar to how samurai and ninja are rare in the Inner Sea region but much more common in Tian Xai, while clerics and paladins are common in the Inner Sea region but pretty rare in Tian Xia.
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Man, this is awesome. So many questions! Is it hardback? What's the page count? Will it deal with planes as well?
I'm all about some Mythic, so this is right up my alley. Day 1, baby.
It's a 64 page softcover. It's not really focused much at all on the planes.
I have never liked psionics, but the above idea I like.
The challenge clearly is, why have we not seen any mind mages in the Inner Sea until now. I imagine its a similar retcon to the gunslinger.
It's not a retcon at all.
There are some monsters in the Inner Sea region who use what is essentially psychic magic in the form of spell-like abilities, like intellect devourers, seugathi, and neothelids.
Psychic magic using character classes will remain rare in the Inner Sea region even after we detail the rules—they'll primarially be classes who operate in Casmaron (mostly in Vudra), simliar to how samurai and ninja are rare in the Inner Sea region but much more common in Tian Xai, while clerics and paladins are common in the Inner Sea region but pretty rare in Tian Xia.
That is indeed a very good explaination oh mighty dinosaur. Those creatures did not occur to me straight away. Sign me up for another book!
Given that Baba Yaga's stats will appear in the final Reign of Winter installment, is there any chance that Mythic Realms will provide the stats of other major NPCs such as Geb, Nex, Arazni, Artokus Kirran, Jatembe, Kortash Khain etc?
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Given that Baba Yaga's stats will appear in the final Reign of Winter installment, is there any chance that Mythic Realms will provide the stats of other major NPCs such as Geb, Nex, Arazni, Artokus Kirran, Jatembe, Kortash Khain etc?
Would folks LIKE to see stats for some of the above NPCs?
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Given that Baba Yaga's stats will appear in the final Reign of Winter installment, is there any chance that Mythic Realms will provide the stats of other major NPCs such as Geb, Nex, Arazni, Artokus Kirran, Jatembe, Kortash Khain etc?Would folks LIKE to see stats for some of the above NPCs?
Very much, yes.
