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ryric wrote:
I wouldn't be surprised if "1-inch" battlemaps bought in America were actually 25mm squares instead of 1 inch. The difference would be minimal and the vast majority of customers wouldn't even notice that they're using a metric map with a switched label. The width of the gridlines is wider than the difference between 25 mm and 1 inch. You'd need to measure 6-7 squares before there would be a 1/8 of an inch difference.

I wouldn't be at all surprised either; nor would I be surprised if the "25mm" battlemaps are actually 1 inch square grids produced in the US, but labeled for international sale. I have no preference as to whether you conceive of and call the diameter of a US 25 cent piece 25mm or 1 inch. I'm just curious as to whether 25mm/1inch grids are available in countries where 1 inch isn't a common unit of measurement.


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ryic wrote:

Now I'm thinking about what they'll use for astronomical distances. Inside a solar system, the Astronomical Unit(AU) is a very convenient yardstick, but the definition of it is very dependent on the real life Earth-Sun distance, so it could be weird having it be an in-game term in a fantasy solar system.

For interstellar distances, I prefer light years(LY) over parsecs. Parsec sounds cooler, but the definition is kind of wonky and again depends on the specific geometry of our real world solar system. Light years work just fine, as I believe Golarion's year is about the same as ours.

For those who don't know the definitions:
1 AU = the mean distance between the Earth and the Sun
1 LY = how far light travels in one year
1 parsec = the distance from the Sun where the Earth and the Sun are separated by an angle of one arc second(1/3600 of one degree)

Sorry, I started sci-fi gaming with traveller, so it's parsecs for me. I mean, my god, the Millennium Falcon didn't make the Kessel Run in in less than 39.12 light years, nor should it. Ever! :P

Here's a question: Given how often I see the metric vs american standard issue raised, does anyone think a 3pp pamphlet listing all the CRB distances (weapon tables, travel times, creature size etc) listed in meters, including a 1.5cm = 1m grid and tokens/counters sized to the grid would be popular? I'm to lazy to write it up myself, but it sorta sounds like someone could make a mint if they had the wherewithal.


Jamie Charlan wrote:

Yes, I said that already. You can buy the real 25mm battlemats. You can go get one in montreal, but you need to check carefully because there'll be 1" in there just as often mixed in since most of them come from the US (shipping costs after all). Last time I bought one the only visible difference without grabbing a ruler was that one of them said 25mm (1") and the other said 1" (25mm).

But like I said, battlemats keep imperial usable; it's when you're not using a mat that metric becomes that much more valuable.

BTW; 1.5m is more often used as that's 4.92ft, as opposed to 2m (6.56)

Sorry, I didn't mean to get overexcited, but unless I missed a sentence somewhere, all you told me was that 25mm is equal to 1 inch, when I was asking about the availability solely to satisfy my own idle curiosity. No insult intended, but it's frustrating when you keep explaining junk like 1.5m is closer to 5 feet than 2m. I know that, and it wasn't what I was asking about. The bit above where you talk about having to check carefully since most come from the US is what I was looking for, so thanks.


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Jamie Charlan wrote:

The regular 1" battlemat IS effectively a 25mm battlemat. You get a teeny bit of leeway (1mm every 2.5th square/hex) because it's not perfect, but for most purposes since you're counting square/hex spaces rather than true distances it does the job. 'real' ones are also available of course, and honestly you won't be able to tell the difference if playing pathfinder, so it's really a matter of proper measures.

Your minis will fit no problem, which is why we tolerate the american mats up here (pathfinder keeps to "5x = 1 square, so just divide by 5 and count the squares"), but will use proper metric measurements without one like if playing battlefleet gothic or infinity or something.

The conversion is particularly healthy when dealing with travel distances or long firing ranges, as it's always 10, 10, 10

Yes, I (obviously, because I mentioned 25mm in my first question on the issue) understand that. My question, my ONLY question, for the people who seem to feel a need to explain the basics of the metric system as if I haven't been playing Traveller and Star Frontiers which use the metric system since 10-fricken'-83, which was actually after I had the metric system taught me in grade school, is this: Can those of you who live in Oslo, or Madrid, or Tel Aviv, or Tokyo, or Addis Ababa, or Lima, or any other place on the earth that uses metric system go to your local game shop and by a dry-erase battlement with a 25mm grid, or do you have to print a bunch of sheets at home, tape them all together and cover them in contact paper? That's really all I was curious about.


So that's two votes for be inventive? I don't mean to be obtuse, but I honestly can't tell if you guys are saying that 25mm battlemats are available, or if you shift Pathfinder's 1 inch = 5 feet to 1cm = 5 feet.


Matthew Shelton wrote:

Shorter Romans would have made a pace equivalent to 5.0 feet instead of 5.28, so we could have had 5,000-ft mile instead of a 5,280-ft one. :) C'est la vie.

The mile was increased from 5,000 feet to 5,280 so that furlongs would divide evenly into a mile.

I have a question for the metric players, something I've been curious about for awhile now. What scale grid do you play on? Are 25mm grid battlements easily available, or are you forced to be inventive?


SmiloDan wrote:
avr wrote:
I don't think Prudence (and successors) match the liveliness of Soulless (etc.) The Laundry books get a lot more polished after the first one though.

I'm less than halfway through Prudence and it seems a lot like Soulless: The Next Generation. The characters are more tepid than the original series. Again, I'm only half-way through, but it seems like she gave the main character a special power, then immediately put her in an environment where she couldn't use it. It's like putting Aquaman in the middle of the Sahara or Magneto in a Stone Age society.

I like all the characters, but I'm not over the moon about any of them. I'm LOLing a lot less than during the Parasol Protectorate or the Finishing School series. None of the characters seem to be pumped up to 11.

So far, it's really good, but not perfect.

I think I read both those comics. ;)


Pan wrote:
Stuff bought doesn't necessarily mean stuff used. I know plenty of folks who have purchased products over the years, but never used them. Do they count as gamers? How was the "AD&D 25 million players" figure constructed?

Head count at GenCon? :P


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It's important to keep in mind that niche doesn't mean dying so much as "not the multimillion dollar industry it was at its peak." I think the comparison to model trains is very apt, mostly because model trains, however niche their market, aren't going anywhere, you know?


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Crusinos wrote:
Quark Blast wrote:
Do you own an EV? Does anyone on this thread own one?
Does a Segway count?

Or a John Deere Gator?


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It feels like that every time it happens Quark, until you realize that what you though was the very foundation was just mere observation.


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It's just a bit weird to me; they've decided to run experiments in space and people are assuming NASA isn't smart enough to eliminate other possibilities before sending the thing up there. This actually is rocket science, and they're the rocket scientists, so I'm going to trust them.

Although, admittedly, I still don't like to drive faster than a horse can go, because I'm afraid the vehicle's high speed motion will create a wind vortex which will suck the air from my lungs and I'll suffocate.


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The EM drive certainly seems a million times more viable than the 1989 cold fusion claims. :)


Aranna wrote:
Hitdice wrote:
I don't understand what you mean Aranna; please explain at greater length. I haven't seen Arise, so I won't feel patronized if you go into detailed explanation of how it relates to what I posted.
To elaborate they have been changing the Major all along; movies, SAC, manga, Arise, and probably the live action all have different characterizations for her. The popular one that most Americans are in love with is the SAC version of her. So I fear people will walk into the theater looking for 'their' version of the Major and they will be disappointed.

This thread has gone all totally Thunderdome, so I won't say any more than thanks for the answer, but honestly, thanks for the answer. :)


I don't understand what you mean Aranna; please explain at greater length. I haven't seen Arise, so I won't feel patronized if you go into detailed explanation of how it relates to what I posted.


Hell, I don't know. Maybe demanding that a character named Major Kusanagi wears an east asian cyborg body in a cyberpunk future is clinging to outmoded memes. My issue is, given that it is a cyborg body, I think the motion capture should by done by a ballet dancer, possibly an olympic gymnast, and the voice over artist should be a completely different person who's olympic level at the voice work.

I mean, if this thing's cyberpunk, let's cyberpunk it to the best degree we can in this day and age, right?

(Full disclosure, I think Scarlett Johansson is a bad choice, but that has more to do with my preexisting ideas about the character than Johansson's acting ability.)


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Crusinos wrote:

What would her policy have been for dealing with Putin?

I'm asking because I know both her and Putin hate each other on just about every level imaginable. And I am not certain the two could speak civilly to each other for very long.

I can only imagine she would continue the transactional relationship she had with Putin during her tenure as Secretary of State. Have I missed a step?


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Zero.


Pan wrote:
The Thing That Should Not Be wrote:


Trump got the vote because half of murrica was tired of being called racist and misogynist for rational disagreements with Obama and Hillary's policies. This is represented by the fact that nearly all the pollsters got it wrong due to people being afraid to voice their true opinions.

Obama and HRC's policies aside, Trump is a misogynist and racist. I believe they were afraid to voice their opinions because they knew they were indefensible. Most, I am willing to wager, voted despite Trump's worst policies and rhetoric because they wanted change and they were not going to get it from Clinton.

The American Republic may have started out with small and/or limited government in mind, but its become ever increasingly bigger. I believe that is quite problematic with a two party system. I don't feel like I have had fair representation from either D or R most of my life. /shrug

It might just be that none of the polling organizations called to ask their opinions, because they weren't "likely voters." Don't ask me.


No insult, but it feels like American exceptionalism is a little bit about one people being superior to another this time around. Not that it hasn't been before and won't be again, and not that we should hold the result against each other, etc.


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Fergie wrote:
Hitdice wrote:
That made sense, right?

As much sense as anything else in the last week or two...

Shares homemade chocolate chip cookies with everyone

Look, if you're gonna insult me, you don't have to be all subtle about it! :P


It's very easy to Monday morning quarterback the entire election, and now that it's all over, many news outlets seem to be acting like a Trump victory was obviously inevitable. It's important to remember that this was a very close election. I'm not looking to start an argument with Fergie, who is right in that the current system is not a reflection of voters will, it's just that having voters is a revolutionary political development in the span of history.

. . .

That made sense, right?


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Rysky wrote:
Pan wrote:
I get that folks wanted change, especially an America first economy candidate. Sad thing is, they could have had Ron Paul who would be entirely more qualified than Trump. Instead we settle for the TV star. However, the right will probably consider Trump another God like Regan.
Two diametrically opposed Gods of Walls at that.

Well now all I can picture is some sort of Janus faced god of walls being worshiped 1,000 years from now in the civilization that grows from the ruins of ours.

Intoned in a robotic/gregorian chant by a steampunk/medieval robed figure: "His hair is black at times, and orange at others, and so you may know whether the wall is torn down or is built up. In both ways his hair is false, in color when it is black, and in shape when it is orange."


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Still? Or did you maybe just buy them on Ebay to look cool?

I'm kidding, ever since the lamentable basement flood, I've been buying ton of replacement copies. The good news? I'd beat the hell out of my rulebooks, so I can replace them for far less than mint condition prices.


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James Jacobs wrote:
Hey there, everyone! This post is partially for me (so I can keep track of the last place the thread was at when I last looked at it) and partially a PSA to let folks know that I'm going to be stepping away from this thread for various reasons mostly to do with my own mental health.

You'll be missed. :)


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The Planet of Adventure series is good, too. Of course, Vance was a hell of a writer, so just about anything he wrote is good for D&D awesomeness.


So long as there are no more than three ships, a battlement is three dimensional. :P


The minis argument is always a bit weird. 3e is the first rulebook I remember that offered grid diagram examples in the PHB, but all the movement rates and distances in AD&D were listed inches, and the Gygax wasn't, like, speaking metaphorically.

I guess I'm on the players-not-rules-mandated side with TriOmegaZero.


John Napier 698 wrote:
:) So nice to finally meet another Traveller player. Don't get much in the way of Traveller games here in Pittsburgh.

Too many of us died during chargen. ;)


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His life wasn't wasted, the music's still there. :)


Harlots, Sissyl; random harlots. :)

Back in my day, Dragon Magazine was stapled instead of perfect bound. No, wait, back in my day, Dragon Magazine was printed instead of an e-zine. No, wait again, back in my day dragon my was an e-zine instead of an app.

This thread makes me feel old and tired, like I've had too many days. :(


Sad news :(


bugleyman wrote:
Latest Clinton conspiracy: The Clintons had Janet Reno killed.

Gotta get as many November Surprise assassinations in as you can in the last 72 hours of the election! :P


Like, serial monogamy? 'Cause, just speaking from my anecdotal life experience, that's what most human beings engage in.


Fergie wrote:
CrusaderWolf wrote:
Even going to wake up at 3am so I don't miss anything :)

Honestly, don't bother. This election is close enough that we probably won't know who won for at least a few days, if not weeks.

Florida is not capable of competently holding an election, and they are basically going to decided this thing. Everyone knows what happened in 2000, but FL has been a total mess in other elections as well.

We are in for a long, crappy slog.

EDIT: Based on past and current trends, I'm going to make a prediction that Trump wins Florida.
wipes vomit from corners of mouth
May god have mercy on our souls.

At least this time, with 8 Justices, a split decision will get kicked back to the state. :P


thejeff wrote:
Hitdice wrote:
Irontruth wrote:
Hitdice wrote:
Y'know, given how much 5e takes from every single edition including 4e, "post-new school" is actually one of the best descriptions I've heard yet.

I don't think it really reaches far enough outside the scope of what came before to deserve a separate distinction.

I like the game and really appreciate its nuances, but it really is still the same game. 4E represents a larger departure from D&D-core than 5E does. And if 5E gets a separate moniker, pretty much every edition should be it's own category, which would suggest that the category should probably just be named for the edition for simplicity's sake.

Every edition does have its own separate moniker, that's why I was so confused when you didn't understand exactly what I was talking about like five pages ago when I described Labyrinth Lord as a B/X retro-clone.

If you want to tell me that the OSR has been co-opted by self-publishing indiegamers who don't understand the term retro-clone, I'm fine with that, but that's a self-publishing indiegamer thing, not an OSR thing.

Well, each edition does have it's own "moniker" - There's OD&D, AD&D, Basic*, AD&D2E, 3.0, 3.5, 4E, 5E. But that's not really relevant to grouping them into schools or styles.

Individual games have names, but there is use in splitting them into different approaches as well. Split down to the level of the individual game, it becomes pointless. Lump too much together, it's also pointless.

*Not all the versions of Basic really have clear monikers, often being referred to by author - Holmes/Moldvay/Mentzer or as BECMI for the later version.

Not to sound like a dingus, but isn't it pretty obvious to you that that everything previous to 3.0 is old school, and everything after 3.0 is new school? Is that a complicated distinction for players who went from WoD/Vampire to 3.0 without playing the earlier editions in sequence? That's not snarky, I'm really asking.


Old news is good news, it's completely safe to have an opinion on. :P


Irontruth wrote:
Hitdice wrote:
Y'know, given how much 5e takes from every single edition including 4e, "post-new school" is actually one of the best descriptions I've heard yet.

I don't think it really reaches far enough outside the scope of what came before to deserve a separate distinction.

I like the game and really appreciate its nuances, but it really is still the same game. 4E represents a larger departure from D&D-core than 5E does. And if 5E gets a separate moniker, pretty much every edition should be it's own category, which would suggest that the category should probably just be named for the edition for simplicity's sake.

Every edition does have its own separate moniker, that's why I was so confused when you didn't understand exactly what I was talking about like five pages ago when I described Labyrinth Lord as a B/X retro-clone.

If you want to tell me that the OSR has been co-opted by self-publishing indiegamers who don't understand the term retro-clone, I'm fine with that, but that's a self-publishing indiegamer thing, not an OSR thing.


Y'know, given how much 5e takes from every single edition including 4e, "post-new school" is actually one of the best descriptions I've heard yet.


4 Out of 10 Doctors wrote:

It's not catnip, that's for sure.

We don't understand what cats see in it, we're not buzzed at all!

I used to think that, but then I realized I was making tea with cat-sized portions, so one afternoon I sat down and ate three pounds of it. It's a pretty fun high, but there's no reason to do it unless you want tell people you've been high on catnip, you know?


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thejeff wrote:
Drahliana Moonrunner wrote:
Drahliana Moonrunner wrote:
Ajaxis wrote:
Hitdice wrote:
Would have? I'm pulling for my Lady, but it's not like it's safe to speak in the past tense yet! ;)
Even given today's October surprise that based on new eviidence the FBI has reopened its criminal investigation of Secretary Clinton, I think she is going to win.
MogIA indicated otherwise even before this latest news.
I personally think that Clinton is going to win the popular vote, but lose the Electoral race.

Yeah, but you've been predicting doom at every step of the way. Every debate, every drop of scandal, each was going to be the turning point.

It's possible. Anything is possible in politics, but she's still in better shape than the winner of any election I remember.

DON'T JINX IT, OKAY?!


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thejeff wrote:
Orfamay Quest wrote:


If you want to see "funny," look at the performance of any Democratic presidential candidate between 1968 and 1988. The United States has been a center-right country for a long time.

The conclusion is a step too far for me. That change was almost entirely about race, the result of the switch of the Solid South from D to R.

For most of that period, we still liked traditional liberal economics, we just didn't want to apply them to black people.

Reagan started to shift that, largely by making the dog whistles subtler and implying it was only them benefiting from the government.

Welfare queens showing up to cash their checks in limousines is subtler? (I'm not saying you're wrong, but YEESH.)


Would have? I'm pulling for my Lady, but it's not like it's safe to speak in the past tense yet! ;)


Steve Geddes wrote:
Irontruth wrote:

Well, something that came out in 2006 might call itself "old school", but I wouldn't consider it definitive on the subject, being roughly 30 years later.

AD&D Player's Handbook has "reaction adjustment" listing on the Charisma score table. The DMG then has a reaction table (p 63) and all sorts of things scattered throughout the book that provide adjustments to that table. Read through them, they're diplomacy rules.

Now, most DM's I played with never bothered to use that table, but that wasn't how the game was written or intended to be played. (And also why most people dumped Charisma, because the bonus never applied) But the table is part of the game and in the rules, so the same concept applies that if you're going to modify those rules, you'd want to tell people that you aren't using them.

As I said: "I think it's in the culture of how each system is played and interpreted."

You may put store in some concept of RAW, but I personally consider the concept a myth. For me, the old school new school distinction is about how the game is generally played, not how the game is written.

do you think being written in 2006 is relevant to whether something is old school? If you do it undercuts your view that it's a D&D centric term, don't you think?

I think I was the one who said it was a completely D&D-centric term. I mean, I stand by it, I'm just not sure if Irontruth agrees or disagrees.

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