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My grandmother lived on a saltwater estuary here in Rhode Island; learning to swim on a simple stay-afloat-till-help-arrives level was a survival skill, so, yes, I was taught to swim by my parents, back in the hazy days before conscious memory.
Being tossed in the deep end of the pool to see if you sink or swim sounds horrible; everyone who survived that nonsense has my condolences.
The whole thing did really strike me as WotC giving B&N the price and release dates, B&N putting up pre-order information, and WotC screaming "Well, you weren't supposed to tell everyone!"
Knowing the price satisfies my curiosity, but given that WotC themselves have set summer of 2014 as the release date, I've never seen a less informative "leak" in my life.
Having watched the most recent episode, it does appear that there may have been no little subtext to issue of lawn mowing.
I'm very impressed with this series. Is anyone out there a fan of The Killing? I read that Nic Pizzolatto, the creator of True Detective worked as a staff writer on that show. Having watched the american version of The Killing, you can really see the influence. (Like, in a good-if-not-entirely-user-friendly sort of way.)
See, If we're to talk about that specific case, I read it as Sean explaining why sixty (or however many) clicks on the FAQ button didn't make it an issue of immediate importance to Paizo staff. I don't think Viv's inference (which Sean's post was a direct response to, and therefore related to the topic at hand, unless I've forgotten how conversations work) was any less condescending than Sean's rapid-fire job description quiz was.
Also, ninja'd by Havoc.
Has anyone seen Advanced Dungeons & Dragons Third Edition? It's sort of a nostalgia-fueled reskin of the D20 system.
I guess Chris Perkins works for Wizards, but given the amount of old TSR art AD&D Third Ed. uses, anyone who tries to make money off it should expect to get sued till they don't have towels left in their bathroom! :P
Viv, all I can say to the points that you've raised in this thread is, to some of us, Paizo staffers don't appear to be above the most important rule. I'm not asking you get witch hunt-ey, but unless you can explain what beyond the example you linked makes you think there is a larger trend, I just don't see it.
Vod Canockers wrote:
See, you wouldn't have that problem if you were watching Game of Thrones, 'cause in the TV series their ages range from, like 17 to 5. They're younger in the the book series. I've only watched the trailer of Ender's Game, but the first thing I noticed was that the actor playing Ender was, like, obviously post-pubescent, whereas Ender wasn't in the book. Like, at all.
Full disclosure, I enjoyed the book (Ender's Game) the first time I read it, but really haven't felt a need to see the movie. The character development just feels obvious at this point.
The thing is, the Jonestown mass suicide was brought on by a senator touring Jonestown and offering to provide travel back to the US for anyone who wanted it; that's much more user friendly than response and Waco, and a shooting spree at the airport and mass suicide were the result. I'm not saying that Waco was handled appropriately (it really really wasn't), but at a certain point, there's just no good outcome. Given the similarities between Jones and Koresh, and knowing as little about psychology as I do, I sometimes wonder if sexual abuse leading to mass suicide is just part and parcel of a messianic complex.
. . . And how exactly did this come up to begin with?
Ross Byers wrote:
Ross, I don't disagree with any of the points you've made in this thread, but there are a good number of people who think of drug users exactly how you're describing here. In my experience those are also the people who use marijuana recreationally and justify their use by saying, "Yeah, but weed's not a drug," and can't seem to conceive the spectrum of drug use that you talk about in an earlier post. Honestly, at this point I think anyone who isn't willing to consider therapeutic treatment for addiction is just looking to vilify a societally acceptable target.
Sarcasm, can I ask where you're posting from? Here in the U.S. (since the Reagan Administration's "Just Say No" campaign in the mid-80's) "Drug-User" has been much more pertinent as a legal classification than "Addict" has as a medical one.
Edited for clarity.
The thing is, the classification of"addict" removes the possibility of a one time occurrence/accident definitionally, you see? Addiction is a repetition of behavior, which may well be as self destructive as drinking bleach. (Well, that's overstating it, but only because bleach isn't a gateway drug.)
Edit: Not that I think that "Gateway Drug" is a very useful distinction; whatever drug is most accessible to you is is your own personal gateway drug.
Ross Byers wrote:
Also, if someone comes in to the hospital with a new gunshot wound once a week for four weeks in a row, odds are they'll get an interview with social workers and mental health professional, and the police, just figure what the hell is going on in that person's life. No reason addicts shouldn't receive that robust a set of follow up interviews, just to figure out the same thing.
Kirth Gersen wrote:
Quoting Roger Ebert, as best as I can remember:
"I saw a world famous actress in the Self-Help section of the bookstore. Doesn't she know that people read those books to get where she is? Maybe there should be a section the bookstore called Uninstall."
Kirth Gersen wrote:
Joe Pesci is all of those things, and just look at him. :P
Shouting Off Mountain wrote:
I trimmed some, just for the sake of space.
Here's the thing: I can't possibly answer that question, because the innovations I'm talking about haven't happened yet. "Reprogram the brain" is an entirely hypothetical statement at this point. That's why I think you're over reacting in the first place.
Shouting Off Mountain wrote:
Look, back when millions of people actually were kidnapped and enslaved, reprogramming them be so willingly (well, except by beating them into submission) wasn't an issue. Like, at all, and that's how society at large functioned. I hope I don't sound uncivil either, but I really think you're just over reacting to the idea of medical innovation.
Shouting Off Mountain wrote:
Instantaneous? Have you ever watched someone reprogram a computer? Speaking seriously, I think you're over reacting to the idea of human beings understanding the function of our brains.
If, on the other hand, you actually are in a position to allow or not allow such innovation, I promise not to invent such a system form a one-time, lump sum payment of one billion dollars. :P
@Sarcasm: Sure, but if medical treatment is more effective than slapping a Mr. Yuck sticker on the bottle, why shouldn't it be treated medically?
Does it destroy any notion of personhood though, anymore than treating the body as a repairable meat-machine? When I quit smoking, I think I did something very close to hacking my own programming, and I'm satisfied with the results.
Edit: The flippant answer is, the very powerful people already know how to do it, that's how they got to be very powerful.
Speaking only from my own experience, it wasn't until I conceived of my own smoking as something I could treat with medicine (a generic, behind-the-counter nicotine patch program) rather than some sort of spiritual or moral failing that required some sort of bizarre self-hazing as a part of the quitting process, that I actually managed to quit smoking.
As Irontruth and others have pointed out, if medical consultation and treatment are more effective than legal punishment, why shouldn't addiction be classified and treated as a medical condition? That said, I agree with Ross that addiction exists in some grey area between disease, illness, and something I'm not sure we have a word for in English.
Scourge of the Sword Coast doesn't have stats for any system but Next, from what I've seen. The previous two Sundering adventures were systemless, with encounters in bolded text, so you knew what to look up when you downloaded the packet for your system of choice, whereas the most recent is sold with DDN stats right there in the book (well, pdf). I don't mean to quibble with you, I just think the first two were an effort to hook players of all three systems on the Sundering's story before switching to DDN only stats (D&D: Switcheroo)
I kind of doubt that WotC is going to produce three (or more) sets of of the same encounters for every adventure they publish; it just seems inefficient from a cost/profit perspective. On the other hand, I would absolutely love to live in a world where any D&D system could get published in Dungeon (D&D: Whichever), and think WotC could make beaucoup monies from a pdf that allowed conversion between the various additions (D&D: Rosetta).
Don Juan de Doodlebug wrote:
I think of that scene every single time there's discussion of socially acceptable minority labels. I also think that if you're telling a person why your term for them is acceptable, rather than using the one they prefer, you're doing it wrong.
My grandmother used the n-word as a matter of course, without intending any insult, but that just means her entire mindset was offensive, instead of just her vocabulary.
So instead of teaching the kids that drugs are bad, we should be teaching them that pot and booze aren't that bad in moderation, but don't touch cigarettes or meth or its back behind the woodshed for you.
I can't say I've ever tried meth, but given my own experience with quitting smoking, that's exactly what I'd tell my (hypothetical) children.
Personally, having been addicted nicotine, and having managed to quit it, I don't think people who haven't been addicted to one substance or another have the experience to form a relevant point of view on it. Just my two cents.