Hitdice wrote:Not to be a dingus, but about half of that real problem is that better has no objective standard.
Agreed, you will have qualify what's better in which respect. For example, I think it's save to say that classes in 4E are objectively better balanced than their PF counterparts. That doesn't make 4E the objectively better system though.
edit: and just not to cause the next edition war: On the other hand, it's also safe to say that PF is better than 4E when it comes down to backwards compatibility. Again, that doesn't make PF the objectively better system though.
Nice try, but one half hour after your post, the first shot in the next edition war was fired. At this point, there had been so many edition wars on so many fronts that Imperial historians started using the term "Nth Edition War." :P