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Orf, do you think it's possible to recognize that race is a social construct rather a heritable trait, but still think it's "real?" 'Cause that's sort of where I am at this point.

Edit: That's not what the geneticists are doing, Kaz, and the assignment of certain bone structures to certain races are incorrect.


BigNorseWolf wrote:
thejeff wrote:


I'd actually love to see a kind of cladistic human family tree. I poked around a bit, but didn't come across anything.

Linky?

I was digging through my hazy memories of a PBS show I saw about tracking y chromosome mutations when you linked this; well ninja'd, sir!


I'm Hiding In Your Closet wrote:
Kazuka wrote:


We're discussing racial groups, not language families. The distinction is that a language family is not a racial group.
Isn't it? The latter isn't even a real thing, though - the concept of "race" quickly falls apart as a coherent and accepted concept outside the English-speaking world, and to the extent that it can be considered real, it's almost the same thing as language groups.

I don't mean to put words in your mouth, but this sounds to me like you're equating race with ethnicity.


Sissyl wrote:

In Sweden, both Caucasian and Afro-American get weird. I recently saw in an official document the word "kaukasisk", implying "white", but found that my first thought was actually "from Caucasia". It is not really that far away. Though why we would need specific information about their tolerance for various medical drugs is a bit strange to me.

Afro-American is weird both in that large black populations have no heritage from Africa beyond all our common such, and, interestingly, no connection to America either. And hey, if Afro-American is a term that has no connection to its component words, why is European American a problem?

Sis, I've seen you mention this before, and forgive what may sound like a stupid question: are you say that Swedish nationals of African ancestry are called Afro-American in Sweden? Like, Marcus Samuelsson is described as Afro-American rather than Ethiopian-born/Swedish-raised or whatever?


BigNorseWolf wrote:
Hmmmm.. any chance Littlefinger going over to the nights king if his deal with sansa goes south?

I don't believe negotiation is with the Night King's skill-set, but I would absolutely love to see where Littlefinger ends up for trying. /justdesserts


Like I said three posts above, she wanted Pycell to understand the utter crapiness of his final reward, rather just die instantly in an explosion, you know?


Not to Cersei, though; that's worth an individually specific stabbing right there!


Farewell Horizontal by K.W.Jeter and Vurt by Jeff Noon. Both have a engaging mix of domestic drama and far future science fantasy that I think an RPG setting would benefit from.


Lemmy wrote:
Hitdice wrote:
I totally concur about Jon taking the Stark name. It's important to remember that Bran is the only one who knows the truth, and he'll start ranting about the King of the Night and the Three Eyed Raven way before he even gets to warging into trees.

Well... There's also Howland Reed... Supposedly, he's still alive in the show. Hearing about Jon Snow becoming the King in the North might convince him to finally show up and possibly reveal the truth... I just don't know who he'd reveal it to.

Hitdice wrote:
Though, now that you mention it, I suppose Jon is the legitimate heir to the Iron Throne. Well, illegitimate heir, maybe, but direct inheritor. Hmmm.
If Rhaegar and Lyanna didn't get married, he's not a heir, since bastards don't inherit anything... But I think Rhaegar meant to marry Lyanna (he was expecting to win the war, after all, and considering all the trouble the Blackfire Pretenders caused, I don't think he'd want a bastard).

I thought Jojen (show Jojen) said Howland died at some point before they reached the Wall, but don't quote me on that, I could be wrong.


Lemmy wrote:
archmagi1 wrote:

In the show...

The great houses in the show have 2 left with a presumed living named character make heir: Arryn and Lannister.

Tyrell: degenerates to cousins. The true line extinguished.
Martell: extinguished
Baratheon: extinguished

Hmmm... Now that I think about it, the Martells might actually survive if one of Oberyn's bastards takes the name or gives it to their son. Dorne doesn't require a male heir to rule/inherit the name (Doran, Oberyn and Elia were Martell from their mother's side). And kings/queens can "remove the taint of bastardom", so Daenerys could save the Martell name.

Baratheons are gone, though... Well, their genes do live in a few bastards here and there. ><'
(I suppose it's not impossible for Gendry to be legitimized, but that seems very, very unlikely).

archmagi1 wrote:
Stark: Bran won't ever lay claim and the heir (Rickon) just got an arrow. Sansa Lannister Bolton just lost her claim to a Snow.

In any case, the Stark name would be gone next generation, unless she convinces whoever marries her to let her give her last name to their sons.

archmagi1 wrote:
Targaryen: Dany maintains a lady's claim by force of arms. Jon is not legitimate.

Actually... We don't know that. Lyanna was gone for over an year. More than enough time to get married (forcibly or not. We don't know the precise nature of her relationship with Rhaegar). Of course, if that's the case... He's a Targaryen, not a Stark, and therefore the Stark name is gone anyway, unless Bran decides to go back... Or at least have a son and leave him in Winterfel. :P

If the nature of Jon's birth are ever revealed, I predict Jon would rather keep the Stark name and let Daenery's sit in the Iron Throne... They even have a couple commons friend to intermediate the deal. And Jon does have the approval of Jorah's family, if that means anything...

EDIT: While no one who heard it survived to tell the tale, Jon was legitimized as a Stark shortly before the Red Wedding.

I totally concur about Jon taking the Stark name. It's important to remember that Bran is the only one who knows the truth, and he'll start ranting about the King of the Night and the Three Eyed Raven way before he even gets to warging into trees.

Though, now that you mention it, I suppose Jon is the legitimate heir to the Iron Throne. Well, illegitimate heir, maybe, but direct inheritor. Hmmm.


Well, with much better shoulders. :)


Something like that, Ambrosia; I think we're a little too far along in the TV narrative to introduce new artifacts, and something has to happen, lest we get the most anticlimactic ending ever: ". . . And then everyone just stayed inside, safely south of the Wall, until the weather got better on its own."

I imagine the season shortening production costs means we'll never see giant ice spiders either. :(


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BigNorseWolf wrote:
Hitdice wrote:

Not to sound like a dingus, but I'm pretty sure the only place there even is a Dany/Yara plot line is in the beer-fueled, spoilered ramblings of my demented mind. :P

You guys think Dany's going to recognize the legitimacy of Sansa and Tyrion's marriage? 'Cause If I was Sansa I'd be all, "You now how much nicer to me Tyrion was on our wedding night than Ramsey? That's exactly how much more trustworthy he is than Littlefinger." And if I was Dany, I'd be all, "That's the King in the North, under my sovereignty just like the Iron Isles."

Both danny and tyrion are far more pragmatic than that. The north has chosen John Snow, trying to foster the patricidal devil imp that forced Sansa into marying him at crossbow point before her fathers head had finished rolling down the steps of the sept* isn't going to fly. The north is too big to conquer, even with three dragons.

Marying John snow may be a possibility. (even if she's his cousin?- Targaryn's do closer family ties) She already controls house lanister through tyrion, the martels through revenge, the dornish through revenge.. she really could send back for daario, cersei doesn't have anyone left. She may have to turn shame nun into an army of greggorsteins.

*little of this is true, but its close enough to be seen that way

Little of that is true, but then, one of the things I enjoyed about Lady Crane's play was how the popular culture (or maybe just the playwright) had streamlined the actual events. Wait, Tyrion paid Ilyn Payne to behead Ned while Joffery tried to spare him? That's not the way I remember that episode!

I'm probably just being nostalgic for the time when Tyrion and Sansa were (sort of) happily married, but that only lasted maybe an episode and a half, and it was back when Sansa was still innocent enough that she didn't know the vulgar word for dung.


archmagi1 wrote:
Kryzbyn wrote:

So...

** spoiler omitted **
I don't think you're reading enough into it. My guess is that and more. And the real question is, though, how *dead* is frankengregor? Like *dead dead* or Benjen Dead?

I'll say this: I'm completely certain he didn't go in there to read The Seven Pointed Star to/at her.


Not to sound like a dingus, but I'm pretty sure the only place there even is a Dany/Yara plot line is in the beer-fueled, spoilered ramblings of my demented mind. :P

You guys think Dany's going to recognize the legitimacy of Sansa and Tyrion's marriage? 'Cause If I was Sansa I'd be all, "You now how much nicer to me Tyrion was on our wedding night than Ramsey? That's exactly how much more trustworthy he is than Littlefinger." And if I was Dany, I'd be all, "That's the King in the North, under my sovereignty just like the Iron Isles."


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Jeezum Crow everyone, it's not 24, it just doesn't take place in real-time, that's all.


Celestial Healer wrote:
Also, Arya Stark pulling a Titus Andronicus move with Walder Frey? Priceless.

Indeed; I was a bit disappointed that season 2 missed Hot Weasel Soup, but all is forgiven.


I'm not saying that Paizo isn't continuously refining the PF ruleset through the material they publish, it just seems like working up a new ruleset and product line is more trouble than it's worth when they could introduce new mechanics in any of their several existing product lines.

I believe in Starfinder. :P


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It's not Pathfinder, they can't just buy a huge two-handed weapon just because Jon's WBL is high enough. :P


That's a pity, Bookrat. I haven't had the chance to play it yet at the table, but it looks good.


shadram wrote:
Yeah, it was to avoid confusion between Asha/Osha.

What's weird is, they chose a name that sounds very similar to Arya, when they could have picked, I don't know, "Prunella, She-Devil of the Seas!" or whatever. (Yes, with the exclamation point; if you don't say it with the exclamation point, you'll learn how she earned the name.)


Lemmy wrote:
Hitdice wrote:
** spoiler omitted **

Admitedly, that's more skillful than nearly everything she did in the series so far...

I think the only exception is "tricking" Joffrey into sparing the life of Sir Dontos.

She revealed her identity to Ser Royce and the other Lord and Lady of the Vale (back at the end of season four, I want to say?) and totally leapfrogged Littlefinger's plan for total world domination. That was pretty good.


Lemmy wrote:
Hitdice wrote:
** spoiler omitted **
** spoiler omitted **

Spoiler:
Not very bright? She remembered how long it had been since Ramsey fed his dogs!

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Lemmy wrote:
Hitdice wrote:
stuff
** spoiler omitted **

Spoiler:
I don't disagree that it looked like LF went to Sansa while the Knights of the Vale charged the phalanx, I just think they waited to attack until Ramsey had dropped his guard because the battle was over except for the mopping up, rather than riding all night to get there in the nick of time.

To be honest, I think Sansa has had already made the "selfish idiot" set of decisions about Rickon before the battle started. Throughout the series, everyone's always complained about how passive Sansa is and her lack of agency, but she's not that character anymore. That doesn't mean she's necessarily, like, a nice person. I'll be completely unsurprised if she murders Littlefinger in the season finale.

. . . And then Dany and Yara will show up at Winterfell riding Drogon, and Yara will be all like "Dayum, you're hot girl, how 'bout a three-way?" and Sansa will go, "This is HBO, not television, so I'm into it, but I just regained my throne, gimme a minute, okay?" and Dany be all, "Your throne? That's such a turn on! Hey, Yara, while we're waiting for Sansa to finish up work, why don't we fly down to King's Landing and pick up Cersei, make it a four-way? Our families are blood enemies, but she's smoking hot with the new haircut, amiright?" and then Sansa will be like, "Actually I was held in bondage (not the cool kind) by her for years, and I'm pretty sure she likes to keep it in the family, and just with guys on top of that, so . . ." and Yara will go, "By the Downed God, what a waste!"

Okay, look, I've had enough beer that it seemed entertaining to write that, so I'm gonna stop posting now; thank god for spoiler tags!


Spoiler:
It didn't look to me like they did arrive in the nick of time. At no point did we see LIttlefinger ride up all out of breath and say "We made it, we made it!" We saw Littlefinger and Sansa sitting on a hill like this had been their plan all along.

Reading between the lines, I think Sansa's been coordinating with Littlefinger since she and Jon were gathering their forces, and decided not to tell Jon on the eve of the battle because he just wasn't being realistic about Rickon's chances of survival, and was severely underestimating Ramsey. If the Knights of the Vale to begin with, Ramsey would have said, "Hey, they've got more people than we thought, let's just stay inside till the winter kills them."

I guess I'm saying Sansa tricked you just like she did Ramsey. :P

Edits: Oops, that was to Lemmy 19 mins ago.


Spoiler:
I don't exactly disagree that Littlefinger showing up with the Knights of the Vale was predictable, but it's predictable ever since Littlefinger and Robyn Arryn decided to help her back in episode whichever when they didn't throw Ser Royce out the moon door. At a certain point, it's less predictability than just the way the story is plotted.

What I liked very, very much was the way Sansa was the only one who kept her head and actually out thought Ramsey. Jon lost his head and went running in to save Rickon, and it didn't work; Davos got antsy and went running in to save Jon and the Wildlings, and it didn't work; Sansa waited until Ramsey had overextended his soldiers, and decimated them with her cavalry.

So, any guesses as to whether we'll see the Stark sigil back on Winterfell in the lead in next week, or have to wait till next season?


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I didn't shove everything but hard SF into a specific genre, I said The Martian and Interstellar both have really good spaceships.


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Drahliana Moonrunner wrote:
Tacticslion wrote:
UnArcaneElection wrote:

You forgot Babylon 5 -- heresy!!

My Dude, Babylon 5 has:

- telepaths, empaths, and similar
- immortal god-angel aliens that can fly
- immortal demon aliens that can phase out of reality and back in

... I love that daggum series so daggum much, but it, too, falls into sci-fantasy...

#fromacertainpointofview

There's not that much in science fiction that ISN"T science-fantasy :)

Best example I can think of such, is "MOON".

If we're talking movies, The Martian and Interstellar both have really good spaceships. Speaking only for myself, I think the difference between science fiction and science fantasy is how your futuristic setting handles the artificial gravity proposition: grav plates or centrifugal force?

Not that I have any sort of problem with science fantasy. I'm totally cool with a setting where the difference between Klingons and Hobgoblins is whether they wield laser guns or melee weapons. Just don't ask me about the Bat'leth, it's a futuristic Klingon melee weapon, it's ceremonial, mmkay?


SmiloDan wrote:

No updates. We're scheduled to play again next Sunday, but the DM is the only one to not confirm.

Dan, I don't mean to say you should gloat or anything, but if one guy who disagrees with your play style sits out a campaign you're going to run for your regular play group, that not a bad thing is it? Given everything you've said here, it sounds like you're going to do a great job.

Forget that guy!! :P


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ThePuppyTurtle wrote:
JoelF847 wrote:

Off the top of my head, advanced tech civilizations could have slaves for things that robots aren't good for, pleasure slaves, artist slaves, and bloodsport slaves for example.

They might also be wary (rationally or irrationally) of robots taking over, a la Terminator or Cylons, and not want to have excessive amounts of them around. Maybe they are at war with or were recently at war with a robot civilization for example.

Kuthites would want slaves to torture and inflict pain on just 'cause, even when they make it to the stars.

Robots can do all of those things.

I'm not looking to argue with you Puppy, but everything you've mentioned so far is your idea of robots in your idea of a futuristic rpg setting. I'm not saying there have to be slaves instead of robots, just that the presence of either (or both) can be justified in a science fiction setting.


Molten Dragon wrote:
I thought the writers said that LSH would not make an appearance or did they change their minds?

That's exactly what they said about Jon Snow.


Okay, so Arya was just Arya, and when she told Jaqen (ahem, "No one,") that she was Arya Stark of Winterfell, who will return to Westeros, he was just sorta totally fine with that. Alright, that's fine, like I said, we've diverged from the book here.

I liked the interplay between Brienne and Jaime, but, once again, we've diverged from the book here.

As I remember the plot of the books, Dani showing up is just dove-tailing the narrative, but that's not even a real verb.

I was very gratified to see that the Hound was totally cock-blocked on his mission of vengeance by the Brotherhood without Banners. Think there's a chance of LSH showing up?


On the one hand, I like the idea of being able to visually identify a spaceship's culture of origin. On the other, depending how closely form follows function, a spaceship might just look like a spaceship because that's what a spaceship has to look like to work as a spaceship.

I'd love a setting where the longer lived races (elven lifespan in PF) haven't bothered to invent FTL drives because solar sails can get you to 0.5c, and that's not an unreasonable amount of travel time to someone with a lifespan of 354 to 750 of your earth years. Of course, PF space elves would probably all just wear slippers of spider climb instead of inventing artificial gravity; I suppose they'd need velcro, though.

I guess I'm saying I'd whole heartedly approve if each race/culture/whatever-futuristic-distinction had unique designs when they first reached space, but got assimilated into the Absolom Station galactic standard before too long.


I'm not saying firing a bow in zero-G would be easy, but it would much, much less destabilizing than firing an explosive projectile. I feel like this conversation would benefit from the inclusion of atlatls and slingshots in space.


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Robert Little wrote:
bluesman95 wrote:

TSR did star frontiers in 1982 i dont think it really caught on.

I loved the setting for Star Frontiers and it actually had a pretty good ship/vehicle/power armor crafting system (if you included the articles from Dragon magazine). It had decent support and right before it died, they published what was supposed to be the first in a series of new rules updates (Zebulon's Guide). Unfortunately, I think it got killed when Lorraine Williams took charge of TSR and switched the sci-fi focus to Buck Rogers.

One landshark to another, I believe that is the case. At least, I was super-psyched when I saw the little "Volume 1" at the bottom of the cover copy, and gradually became super-disillusioned over the course months (if not years) when no Volume 2 was forthcoming.


I'm looking for PC Gnolls myself, but no harm, no foul if they aren't in there. Southlands Heroes has done as well as any official version up till now. ;)


Umbral Reaver wrote:
Now fire a bow in a rotating frame of reference such as a space station ring.

You'd have to worry about the Coriolis Effect if you were firing an arrow or throwing an object parallel to the axis of rotation, but that would probably only be a concern in a really big environment like an O'Neill Cylinder. Which is the whole point of inventing laser arrows in the first place! Anyhow, given that Starfinder is described as science fantasy, I'm expecting a lot more grave plates than centrifugal force.


i thought that was something they did to her; I can even remember the differences between the books and the show half time any more. :P


BigNorseWolf wrote:

I don't think arya can use the masks. She's definitely arya at this point, not no one.

I think she used one when she killed Meryn Trant. On the TV show, obviously; Arya's Braavos experience has now completely diverged from the books.

Regardless, the show hasn't gone into a whole lot of explanation about how it actually works. Sure, we saw maybe-Jaqen removing someone's face, but the first time Jaqen Jaqen changed faces back at the end of season two he didn't put one on, he just sorta did it in the time it took him to start to walk away and then look back over his shoulder.


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Freehold DM wrote:
Hitdice wrote:
Why's everyone talking like Steel was never made into a movie? No, seriously.
I don't know what you're talking about.

You're one of the lucky ones, Freehold.


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Why's everyone talking like Steel was never made into a movie? No, seriously.


Dustin Ashe wrote:
Grey Lensman wrote:
The funny thing is you can already learn a new tool without losing an old one in the system already (or a new language), it just takes 250 days and 250 gp unless you have some kind of boon to speed things up (like learning from a true master of the craft, an optional reward in the DMG). The PHB doesn't give a method to learn new things for normal proficiencies though, just tools and languages.

Wow, that's a long time. Sure, it's realistic. But the campaign I'm in has taken the PCs up five levels in only 5 -in-setting days.

We'll never make it to 250 days.

By the way, do you have a page number for that rule? DMG?

The downtime activities, including training rules are on page 187 of the PHB, with additional options on pages 127-131 of the DMG


Norman Osborne wrote:
archmagi1 wrote:

Posting this someone posted on the io9 recap:

** spoiler omitted **

For this theory to be true, Arya needs to have had her face sliced off.

We saw her face on Jaqen's (well, someone's, that is, no one's) dead body in the season 5 finale, though.


James Sutter wrote:

You will totally be able to use bows in Starfinder. That said, most people probably choose laser guns or assault rifles instead, for the same reasons most people would do so in real life. :P

It should be noted that all the weapon/armor/item math is getting tweaked for Starfinder, so things will likely look different than what you're used to, even in the tech guide.

So, laser arrows fired by regular bows might be a viable option? Chewbacca will hear my mighty roar!!!11!


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Here in the U.S. we call that "Smokey Flavor." :P


Picnic on Paradise, which I have mentioned several times before on this very thread, has maybe the single strongest female hero ever. Not so much with the vampires though, more like interplanetary tourists and a bronze-age tour guide who ends up working the job because the Trans-Temporal Agency can't figure out what else to do with her.


I think they also showed it in the first few episodes of season 2, before Dani, Jorah etal reached Qarth.


Dammit Jim, I'm a doctor, not a magician!!


Given that diplomacy works against other cultures and non-human races perfectly well, I wouldn't worry about it; it just means the character making the check can explain themselves to a robot as diplomatically as they can to an elf or an orc.


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Drahliana Moonrunner wrote:
Set wrote:

I should clarify that while I want an Enterprise with all the toys, I would lock the doors to the holodeck, since that thing flips out and tries to kill anyone who uses it at least once a season...

With a Holodeck, why subject yourselves to the dangers of space travel in the first place?

It's safer, that's why! :P

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