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Trailer is up

I'm still kind of worried and I'm a little wierded out by some of it....but I don't hate it


Those eyes, man. Those eyes! aieeeeeeee

Other than that, looks OK. Been a while since I read the manga so I can't say how close to the source it looks, but it's close enough to be recognizable.


Too bad Christopher Lloyd is too old for Desty Nova


Interesting. I haven't watched that anime in forever. Cautiously optimistic.


I am unsure of how to feel about this.
I take GUNNM very seriously.
This looks to be based off the ova.
If they leave it there, I'll be cool.
But some of these designs look a bit off. They are just plain too NICE and chrome.

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Some Battle Angel Cosplay to hold you over.


I'm okay with this but we'll see if this does any better than some other live action adaptations of manga/anime. So far it's not been great.


I actually really like the blatant 'uncanny valley-ness' of the heroine in the trailer. I feel like it plays into the source material's themes very well. I can only hope that was intentional and not an attempt to do something else that I would probably highly disapprove of.


I'm assuming they'll just keep the whole sex doll stuff on the kibosh.


As for the manga, like the creator I thought the ZOTT went on for far to long but I was very interested in the other contestants(Like the Space Karate gang) Alita actually became insufferable/Mary sue when she showed up and I really don't have any interest in following the Mars Saga

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This is so Rodriguez. Including the weird and somewhat off-putting CGI work. Too bad he is not writing, Rodriguez is good at writing trash that works, despite everything.


I dunno. I think he's a decent director. Besides everyone wants Cameron focused on Avatar.

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Oh, he is a good director, not disputing that. But most of his more recent movies are bit trashy and low-bro, yet they work. Machete especially. It's silly, stupid and trashy, but it also has something to say and it means it too.

I don't think I trust current Camerona as much.


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Well I trust Cameron to be himself which means...I trust him more than I do Michael "I love explosions!" Bay...but not as much as I trust James "I can make a Talking Tree seem awesome!" Gunn.


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Rosgakori wrote:

Oh, he is a good director, not disputing that. But most of his more recent movies are bit trashy and low-bro, yet they work. Machete especially. It's silly, stupid and trashy, but it also has something to say and it means it too.

I don't think I trust current Camerona as much.

A lot of that is really love letters to original grindhouse style movies. Honestly, if he is willing to show a similar level of devotion to the original source material (I have never ever read/seen this), than it should be in good hands

But yeah super uncanny valley there, which makes it hard to judge how good the CGI is actually.


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Though I guess it works if she's supposed to be blatantly inhuman, as opposed to being almost indistinguishable like they usually go for with robot ladies (e.g., Kusanagi).


This looks horrible but I am not surprised.


Dragon,

It's less horrible looking and sounding than the bomb that was Ghost in the Shell...but not.

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Dragon78 wrote:
This looks horrible but I am not surprised.

As a fan of the OVA and manga, I disagree that it looks horrible. Alita/Gally was designed to look like a doll, easy enough because the only organics she had was her brain. In fact, she gets picked on constantly because of the way she looks by other cyborgs that she encounters in the manga, not so much in the OVA. Cameron, being a fan, took this into account with her design.


Well said blayde.

I also want her octopus lips.

Wasnt her face organic?


It still doesn't look anything like the main character and I am not a fan of the director as well.

Ghost in the Shell wasn't that bad, in fact I liked it a lot better then the original movie...though that is not saying much.


This movie looks a bit interesting. I hope they make a graphic novel out of it, because I would like to read it rather than sit in a movie theater.


Terquem wrote:
This movie looks a bit interesting. I hope they make a graphic novel out of it, because I would like to read it rather than sit in a movie theater.

You're taking the piss, right?


I have no idea what you are trying to tell me


It's a movie based on a series of manga/graphic novels.

@ Blayde - if she's supposed to be blatantly inhuman, then alright. The movie makers get points for not wussing out by toning that down, then.


Zhangar wrote:

It's a movie based on a series of manga/graphic novels.

@ Blayde - if she's supposed to be blatantly inhuman, then alright. The movie makers get points for not wussing out by toning that down, then.

I wonder, if in the future, there will be graphic novel adaptations of movies made from OVA that were derived from Manga, which are then imagined as new movies?


Terquem wrote:
I have no idea what you are trying to tell me

BAA is originally a manga, as has been mentioned several times in the thread, so I wondered if you were making a joke.


Bjørn Røyrvik wrote:
Terquem wrote:
I have no idea what you are trying to tell me
BAA is originally a manga, as has been mentioned several times in the thread, so I wondered if you were making a joke.

He might be one of the people thinking they are addapting the OVA instead of the Manga, despite them saying they were adapting the first 4 volumes of the manga


What movie was the Manga adapted from?


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And if you say "Third Base" I'll break your arm!


but what's on second
i don't know is on third


Probably the same movie the manga of Nausicaa and Akira were adapted from, I guess. And Appleseed for that matter.

I like the uncanny valley (we haven't seen the other side in the real world yet, it might just be a cliff) mien of Alita a lot. The CGI robot combat seemed to work better with not quite human choreographics.

I know, that's a lot to extrapolate from such a brief trailer, so sue me.


The only movie I like from this director is Sin City. I hope this movie does turn out good. But I still wish Alita looked more like the anime version.


New trailer.


I kind of like the background music...but then I like Linkin Park.


Cautiously optimistic. I think it'll be the human boy that pushes me one way or the other, as Alita herself I'm fine with, same with her father.


I'm not familiar at all with the source material (just never got into manga or anime)...

But the uncanny valley eyes FREAKED ME OUT. Like, nightmare-level. I could not finish watching that trailer.

Hard pass.

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Great trailer.
Can't wait.
Of course, they showed a lot of action scenes.
If they are adapting the first couple of Trade Paperbacks, that is almost all of the fighting.

Haladir, they don't call it Big Eyes, Small Mouth for nothing.


They list some characters for motorball, so they might include more then they have shown.


MOTORBALL

I hope Tiegel is in it.

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Just noticed.
Dr. Ido doesn't have the mark of Tiphare's on his forehead.


Charles Scholz wrote:

Just noticed.

Dr. Ido doesn't have the mark of Tiphare's on his forehead.

well.

Now I'm not going to go see it.


Charles Scholz wrote:
Haladir, they don't call it Big Eyes, Small Mouth for nothing.

It's one thing to see anime-style exaggerated facial features in a cartoon, and quite another entirely to see it in a photo-realisitc format.

I've always seemed to have more revulsion at the Uncanny Valley effect than most, and that trailer was easily the worst I've encountered. Those eyes gave me the willies more than most horror movies.


huh...I like that Alita is actually suppose to be in the uncanny valley. I only get the willies when they are intentionally trying to avoid that valley and land there anyway.


I was so happy with this trailer that this will be the first movie I see on December 21st before even Aquaman.

Doesn't mean Dr Ido didn't used to have the mark or is hiding it.

The initial trailer turned me off but this one she seems less uncanny valley.


Haladir wrote:
Charles Scholz wrote:
Haladir, they don't call it Big Eyes, Small Mouth for nothing.

It's one thing to see anime-style exaggerated facial features in a cartoon, and quite another entirely to see it in a photo-realisitc format.

I've always seemed to have more revulsion at the Uncanny Valley effect than most, and that trailer was easily the worst I've encountered. Those eyes gave me the willies more than most horror movies.

Honestly for me the whole uncanny valley things works.

I mean aside from her brain, she is a machine. One made to look like a doll by an old guy with a bit of a father complex. He gets her delicate limbs etched with flowers, dresses her up and tries to keep her away from the ugly things in the world.

She is literally a precious living doll to him until she steps up and takes her independance with her own hands.

Something about her should feel kind of creepy


If they ever do another movie, than I think it is only appropriate they have a lead-in by a pair of feet approaching one of Alita's fallen opponents and a voice wondering what they shall do with this one.


I never read the manga but have heard of a character who used nano-bots, I think his name was Dr. Nova(or something similar). I wonder how many movies we would have to get to see him.

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Haladir wrote:
Charles Scholz wrote:
Haladir, they don't call it Big Eyes, Small Mouth for nothing.

It's one thing to see anime-style exaggerated facial features in a cartoon, and quite another entirely to see it in a photo-realisitc format.

I've always seemed to have more revulsion at the Uncanny Valley effect than most, and that trailer was easily the worst I've encountered. Those eyes gave me the willies more than most horror movies.

Never heard of the Uncanny Valley effect before, but it doesn't look like I am affected.

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