The Orville - New Sci Fi Comedy from Seth MacFarlane and Director John Favreau


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I agree on the cons.


Even being aware that things like that HAPPEN, the odds of it happening to you are roughly 1 in whatever the population of the planet it. Its fairly safe.

And if you think scientists don't get careless...

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It seems like the Union is oddly reckless, ignorant, and incompetent on many levels. It's almost like they're just backpacking through the galaxy like a bunch of tourists, not exploring as part of an organization, let alone a state-sponsored military expedition.

Even if the crew of the Orville isn't the best of the Union, they're not supposed to be worst, are they? They've been extraordinarily fortunate to survive their hijinks.


They are suppose to be dead already technically.

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SmiloDan wrote:

It seems like the Union is oddly reckless, ignorant, and incompetent on many levels. It's almost like they're just backpacking through the galaxy like a bunch of tourists, not exploring as part of an organization, let alone a state-sponsored military expedition.

Even if the crew of the Orville isn't the best of the Union, they're not supposed to be worst, are they? They've been extraordinarily fortunate to survive their hijinks.

They did have 3000 ships to crew.


Tectorman wrote:

Really enjoyed this episode.

Pros:
The Union lets themselves use cloaking devices. Granted, they might not be effective on anything larger than a shuttle, or against anything more advanced than 21st-century-equivalent technology...
The episode seemed to be shaking the finger at the idea of the power within an uninformed vote more than anything else. It isn’t democracy or the lack of a system of laws above even the power of the popular vote that was causing the bulk of the problem (though those factors did come into play), it was the casual disregard the people had for the power they wielded and the flippancy with which they nevertheless wielded it. “I know zilch-nothing about the issue at hand, but I didn’t like the guy’s choice of tie, so I’ll downvote him anyway.” And the issue isn’t so much the people not being informed (because they all have lives to live and things to do and cannot reasonably be expected to do the legwork of properly researching everything about every issue presented for their vote), it’s their whims being given so much weight in the first place.
The end of the episode showed the best outcome that could reasonably be expected for that world. The Orville can’t just tell them all how wrong they are because that’s something the have to realize on their own or it’ll never take. Nor can our one resident who now knows better be expected to turn an entire world around. She only has the power to affect her own involvement (and when presented with that vote at the end, the one she knows nothing about, she abstains from voting up or down, the most responsible thing she can do).

Cons:
Not happy with the archaelogist team. It seems like the ins and outs of this society’s system of governing and justice would have been readily apparent just by tapping into their broadcasts. They should have picked up on how dangerous and swingy even innocuous things like “letting yourself get caught on camera not giving a pregnant lady your seat” before they studied the society from within. Heck,...

Yeah I think your right. If you can't make an informed decision it might be best to just to put yourself out of it. (or you know research.)


Vidmaster7 wrote:
They are suppose to be dead already technically.

I watched that episode again, and I still dispute that. We have only Pria’s word that they should have died and she’s an established liar. The order of events is:

The Orville is on its original course when it receives Pria’s distress call.

It makes a quantum drive jump to intercept. Note that this same episode established that the quantum drive can hit 10 lightyears per hour, a very good pace. Even a small jump puts them excessively far away from their previous position.

They rescue Pria and continue to their previous destination from the location of that star.

The Orville encounters the dark matter storm at sublight speed and eventually exits also at sublight speed. I.e., there’s no way this storm is big enough to have also been an obstacle had they never diverted for the distress call in the first place.

They only would have died because of Pria’s distress call. They were never supposed to have saved her and therefore never would have encountered the storm. Changing the timeline is 100% on her.


Huh. you've convinced me.


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SmiloDan wrote:


Even if the crew of the Orville isn't the best of the Union, they're not supposed to be worst, are they?

The captain is there because he's the ex husband of the admirals daughter, the admirals daughter is there because she's the admirals daughter, Bortis is there because the ship would allow him to take his husband with him, the robot is there because the union is pretty sure they'd never hand the orville an important mission for him to report back to his people with and the security officer is there because the union fast tracks the few of her species that sign up and she is FAR to inexperienced for the leadership position she has..

And the doctor flat out said she goes where she's needed most and holy BLEEP is the crew of the orville going to need to be duct taped back together repeatedly.

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I just finished

Stranger Things:
and I hope the Orville also has a montage of building or fixing things using duct tape. It's like the A-Team + MacGyver!!!!


SmiloDan wrote:

I just finished ** spoiler omitted **

I really hope that team up has Kwai Chang Caine from kung fu and Lou ferigno's hulk involved as well.

(Oh and kato from green hornet but I don't imagine bruce and david Carriden would be on good terms. )

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Vidmaster7, I have no idea what you're talking about!!! Hahahaha!!!

Anyways, I'm a big fan of montages. I was once watching Rocky 3 on TV, they were doing training montages with Rocky in snow and mountains, Russian He-Man working out in a Russian lab. They cut to a commercial, and went right back to the montages. Amazing!


They put a commercial mid monstage? what kind of evil !@##$% is that?

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It was a really long montage. Also, I think it was on a non-premium channel, possibly Canadian broadcast via antenna...


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And they have to stop body-shaming Alara Kitan. Maybe the next away mission will be on a planet where everyone looks like Xelayans, so the humans have to wear weird hats and scarfs. Or use the holo-disguise thingamajig.

They are in no way shape or form body shaming Alara imo. On a planet with humans a alien with ear that clearly stand out as well as forehead ridges and nose ridges needs to be disguised. Or Alara stands out like a nun in a brothel. Now if the planet was full of both humans aliens including other Xelayans than maybe one could say body shaming. Even Spock in Star Trek 4 had to disguise himself and he looked more human than Alara.


We also saw this with Worf, Geordi, Data, Kira, Dax, Tuvok, Torres, T'Pol, etc.


GreenDragon1133 wrote:
We also saw this with Worf, Geordi, Data, Kira, Dax, Tuvok, Torres, T'Pol, etc.

Don't forget that episode where Captain Kirk went back in time with Spock and said that his friend was obviously Chinese, his ears just looked so weird because his head was caught in an automated rice-picker.

I'm not being racist, Leonard Nimoy was from Boston. Harlan Ellison? Never heard of him, but the name sounds jewish.


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http://deadline.com/2017/11/the-orville-renewed-for-season-2-fox-seth-macfa rlane-1202200369/

To quote a former FOX series: Good news everybody! Season 2 confirmed. They never planned on a back 9, and say the early renewal is to their advantage. (Like the fact most of the cast isn't likely to jump ship and leave for paying jobs.)

And this could mean Adrienne will be free to show up with Nick (Hunter) on SHIELD.


Green,

Are we sure about that? I mean if they renewed it already, wouldn't that mean Andrienne would be committed to the show?


Yes. But if they don't start filming until say - May - she is free for the next 6 months.


But where would Agents find the time to include her?


We know Hunter is back as a regular.


So I was totally down for Isaac disintegrating the kids. I think Isaac is my favorite character. I think we also need more of the blob.


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Last two episodes have been amazing.

The YouTube Planet was like an episode of TOS done with modern themes. Also the guy doing stupid jokes finally got repercussions for acting stupid...I just wish that had happened to the pilot.
My niece pointed out she thought it was strange that they used only text and video, no text+image memes like in the real world. Even she was like "Just hack the feed!" until they (logically) did it.

Also, it's good to know the Union isn't the UFP and doesn't get extreme about a Prime Directive--and that if you screw up and do something dumb on an alien planet you'd best be prepared to deal with the consequences.

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Isaac is best Space Dad. While I was kind of surprised at the low-key stereotyping (the one black lady is a single mom? Really?), the episode had heart.

The Doctor was already my fav side character and Isaac tied for fav bridge crew, so getting them together was great.

Both the writer and actor of Isaac's character did a great job, and the latter did exceptionally well at making something with no face very emotive. It was good to see the character progression, and even better that it sort of made them into a little family unit. Again, Isaac is best Space Dad... his literal mind makes him great at Dad Jokes too!


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Arturius Fischer wrote:

Also, it's good to know the Union isn't the UFP and doesn't get extreme about a Prime Directive--and that if you screw up and do something dumb on an alien planet you'd best be prepared to deal with the consequences.

Speaking of the Prime Directive:

Quote:
No one would ever be so twisted as to think it made sense to let a whole species die in order to avoid harming them.

- Commander-in-Chief Jonathan Archer defending his proposed directive against Adm. Shran. (Patterns of Interference by Christopher L Bennett)

Not directly related, but I've been wanting to share that for a while.

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Rob Lowe as the guest star. I am dying.


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"not yet...."

I hurt a rib laughing. So. worth it..


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SO blue Mojo aliens.

Also When I said I wanted to see more of the blob that was not what I meant.

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Not all of us get what they want


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"The worst thing that's gonna happen is everyone has great sex" - Rob Lowe Alien.


Hama wrote:
Not all of us get what they want

The only thing worse than not getting what you want is getting it.


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The union seriously needs to start issuing a bestiary about its own members and making it mandatory reading...

Then again knowing this crew they probably have and they probably didn't...


captain yesterday wrote:
"The worst thing that's gonna happen is everyone has great sex" - Rob Lowe Alien.

Yeah, that was pretty creepy.


thejeff wrote:
captain yesterday wrote:
"The worst thing that's gonna happen is everyone has great sex" - Rob Lowe Alien.
Yeah, that was pretty creepy.

Its a different species without the same view of sex as our species/culture.

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I'll have to tell all my archaeology buddies about forensic archaeology. The genetic kind. Not the kind they do nowadays IRL.


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I'm enjoying it so far. They seemed to have toned back the puerile humour a notch or two in later episodes, and I can overlook the dick jokes that still occur from time to time (and episode #3 will probably go down as The Orville's "Code of Honor")

It's pretty telling that with all that, it still feels more like Star Trek than Star Trek: Discovery.

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not that much of a spoiler:
So, do they need an Inception-like safeguard for the Holodeck? Or whatever Trademark/Copyright/whatever legal alternate name they use?

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It's not just for the holodeck.


SmiloDan wrote:

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Agreed!

Spoiler:
Alara looked pretty beaten up after she got out of it in Episode 10! My wife and I were watching it, and she commented that their holodeck needs some safety interlocks

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This is my favorite show on TV right now. Followed by Star Trek Discovery...

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Daronil wrote:
SmiloDan wrote:

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Agreed!

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spoiler:
I think there are ways to change the safety categories. At least there should be. Right?

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That was an excellent episode.

Some possible light spoilers ahead

Me: Ha Ha hes afraid of clowns
Also me: AAHHH SPIDERS! AAHH GIANT SPIDER!

Also the doctor did an amazing job with the whole evil darkness thing.

lastly I have absolutely no fear of clowns but that one scene where he pops up behind her with the fangs for a second their I could relate to people that do.


Oh and bortus was on it this episode... the actor deserves some kind of award for straight faced: Their was an alligator in the cargo hold I crushed it with a chair... anyways its crushed now...

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But no word on if he ate the alligator! Or the chair!

Bortus needs to eat more kinds of things!


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That was the most frightening spider I've ever seen, and I watched Return of the King and all 19 Hobbit movies.


Oh I agree dragon. Also the part where it landed on dudes face and almost bit his eye completely freaked me out.


Enjoyed this weeks episode. I'm little confused about why they broadcast what was obviously the Halloween episode a week before Thanksgiving, but okay.

Spoiler:
Given the way they've written Alara's character thus far, there's no doubt in my mind that she'd demand that the not-holodeck was set to save or die.

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Is it just me or are the special effects top-notch for this show? I was expecting way less for this show, but I keep being impressed shot after shot...


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It is even the fake fire looked better then typical fake fire I see.


Is it me or is Issac getting way too much psychological info on how to destroy the organics?

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