Regarding Hidden condiction


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Its a flat check, so just DC 11, against a d20 w/ no modifiers/skill/etc added.


" A creature you're hidden from is flat-footed to you, and it must succeed at a DC 11 flat check when targeting you with an attack"

This dc is 11? or 11+the hidden creature stealth?


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Yes a flat check is just roll a d20 without any modifiers and try to match the DC. same thing for persistent damage flat checks

Liberty's Edge

Stealth helps you gain the Hidden condition. Once you have it, as stated above, the DC is 11.


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How did my answer end up before the question?


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NielsenE wrote:
How did my answer end up before the question?

Chronomancy.


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A flat check is a replacement for a percentile roll from previous editions.

Basically a percentile doesn't really need a 100 option spread. Breaking that into 5% groups is generally good enough. And at that point you can roll it using a d20 instead of a d100 or a 2d10 pair with one of the dice having extra zeros printed on it.

Sczarni

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NielsenE wrote:
How did my answer end up before the question?

Either a Reaction or a Free Action.


Failed the Flat Check

(which is DC 11...)

Liberty's Edge

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NielsenE wrote:
How did my answer end up before the question?

It has been a common bug for months. First time I see it on a thread's creation post though. I would have thought they were immune. I was wrong.

I am now lobbying for a Paizo's Information System Mystery/Curse for Oracles.

Their power is above anything but their ways are beyond mysterious.


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The Raven Black wrote:
NielsenE wrote:
How did my answer end up before the question?

It has been a common bug for months. First time I see it on a thread's creation post though. I would have thought they were immune. I was wrong.

I am now lobbying for a Paizo's Information System Mystery/Curse for Oracles.

Their power is above anything but their ways are beyond mysterious.

It's been doing that and marking threads with a new post marker and you go there and no new post or the reverse, go to thread with no new post marking and see a new post.


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Or sometimes I make a post, submit it, and when the page reloads my post isn't there, can sometimes take a few minutes to show up.

Seems to be some period of volatility right after some posts are made where it only partially exists, which might be causing the phenomena of posts appearing out of order, so the post sort of exists and is sometimes visible but once it... settles down it gets bumped to the end of the line.

Liberty's Edge

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That sounds wonderfully Quantic. The future is now.

Schrodinger forums FTW !!!


Squiggit wrote:

Or sometimes I make a post, submit it, and when the page reloads my post isn't there, can sometimes take a few minutes to show up.

Seems to be some period of volatility right after some posts are made where it only partially exists, which might be causing the phenomena of posts appearing out of order, so the post sort of exists and is sometimes visible but once it... settles down it gets bumped to the end of the line.

Yes. And when that happens, I do still see at the bottom of the page in the recent posting list that the thread has me listed as the latest poster. Usually with a timestamp that is several hours off.

I am suspecting that they changed over to a BASE database engine. It eventually gets the post in there.

Shadow Lodge

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NielsenE wrote:
How did my answer end up before the question?

"People assume that time is a strict progression from cause to effect, but actually from a non-linear, non-subjective viewpoint, it's more like a big ball of wibbly-wobbly, timey-wimey stuff..."

On a minor sidenote, Halflings actually do get a reduced DC on their flat checks versus Concealment / Hidden, so it's not quite as flat of a check for them...

Keen Eyes wrote:
Your eyes are sharp, allowing you to make out small details about concealed or even invisible creatures that others might miss. You gain a +2 circumstance bonus when using the Seek action to find hidden or undetected creatures within 30 feet of you. When you target an opponent that is concealed from you or hidden from you, reduce the DC of the flat check to 3 for a concealed target or 9 for a hidden one.


And that's exactly why Pathfinder 4E is actually just better version of 6E. They learned their lesson with 5E. What a mess that was but then didn't have the decency to put it back together to where 4E was. Can't believe I plugged in my brain chip today to see this awful thread.


The Raven Black wrote:

That sounds wonderfully Quantic. The future is now.

Schrodinger forums FTW !!!

Your response exists and not exist at same time until someone see it and where it will decide if it will stay in order or not.

breithauptclan wrote:
I am suspecting that they changed over to a BASE database engine. It eventually gets the post in there.

Or some kind of cache or cron. But probably is something to help improve the forum speed or diminish the load but that can create some "bugs".

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