Feats for a Bonded Object?


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Are there any feats available that pertain to a bonded object from a wizard's arcane bond class ability?

I have a character (a bonded witch, actually) who has a bonded object, and it makes in-game sense to focus on this item. I'm wondering if there are any feats that do that. I don't have anything in particular in mind; I just want to see what the options are, if any. Thanks.


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there is a trait that allow you to pick a compass for an arcane bound. (and later on make it into a magical pathfinder.)

remember you can make your bonded object into a magical item as if you have the needed magic item crafting feats as long as you have the feat's spell caster level.

some special option to craft an item into are (im excluding ones that require an arcane school, as i don't think a witch get that):
Amulet of Spell Cunning (talk about a wizard getting the effect from his bounded item, i believe it will work for the witch as her witch level count as a wizard for the item).

Amulet of Spell Mastery.

you can always craft into other magic item of the same kind as the bounded item, the above just work only if made from a bounded object.

for example my tiefling wizards go-to is a darksire amulet, that and the Unscathed trait net me 12 resistance to fire\acid\electricity.


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Searching for "bonded object" on Nethys returns no feats. Once you have enchanted your object you could look at Item Mastery feats that would apply, add some versatility to its functions.


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zza ni wrote:
remember you can make your bonded object into a magical item as if you have the needed magic item crafting feats as long as you have the feat's spell caster level.

Yes, very true, but I have the option to do that independently of any feats I take. I'm asking about options to spend my feat slot on. Thanks.

Java Man wrote:
Searching for "bonded object" on Nethys returns no feats.

Yeah, I did that, too, but I just searched on "bond," and reviewed those results. No luck.

Java Man wrote:
Once you have enchanted your object you could look at Item Mastery feats that would apply, add some versatility to its functions.

I've never looked at the Item Mastery feats before, so that's pretty helpful! Thanks!


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Feats are usually fairly specific, where a bonded object is fairly general. You are not going to find feats focusing on bonded object directly but can boost it indirectly. Look for feats that boost the type of object you choose. This is going to mean you need to choose what object your bonded item is and stick with it. For example, if your bonded object is a wand Staff-like Wand fits. That would require you to pick up craft staff and be 11th level, but it is something to work towards.


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Andostre wrote:
zza ni wrote:
remember you can make your bonded object into a magical item as if you have the needed magic item crafting feats as long as you have the feat's spell caster level.

Yes, very true, but I have the option to do that independently of any feats I take. I'm asking about options to spend my feat slot on. Thanks.

Java Man wrote:
Searching for "bonded object" on Nethys returns no feats.

Yeah, I did that, too, but I just searched on "bond," and reviewed those results. No luck.

Java Man wrote:
Once you have enchanted your object you could look at Item Mastery feats that would apply, add some versatility to its functions.
I've never looked at the Item Mastery feats before, so that's pretty helpful! Thanks!

Item Mastery Feats can be pretty handy, though oddly a lot of them are tied to Fort Save. I'm Currently playing a Fighter who can use his weapon to cast Dimension Door. been remarkably helpful


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Yeah, a Fighter with Advanced Weapon Training can grab Teleportation Mastery... 1/day @ 8, 2 @ 14, 3 @ 20...

Add in Flickering Step at 9, that's immediately 2/day more uses, another rank in Know:Planes at 10 gets you 3/day... 4/day @ 15, 5 @ 20... assuming max ranks in Know:Planes.

Big dumb Fighter using Dimensional Maneuvers 8/day. Lol.


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Greylurker wrote:
Item Mastery Feats can be pretty handy, though oddly a lot of them are tied to Fort Save. I'm Currently playing a Fighter who can use his weapon to cast Dimension Door. been remarkably helpful

For a Fighter, sure. For a Witch, who has most of the spells castable with Item Mastery feats on her spell list, and gets both later access and fewer daily uses due to the lower fort save, the feats are rather underwhelming.


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Derklord wrote:
Greylurker wrote:
Item Mastery Feats can be pretty handy, though oddly a lot of them are tied to Fort Save. I'm Currently playing a Fighter who can use his weapon to cast Dimension Door. been remarkably helpful
For a Fighter, sure. For a Witch, who has most of the spells castable with Item Mastery feats on her spell list, and gets both later access and fewer daily uses due to the lower fort save, the feats are rather underwhelming.

The main appeal of the feats to a full caster isn’t to get a spell they couldn’t otherwise cast, but rather to free up a spell slot for a different spell.


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Yeah, the Item Mastery feats, while cool, weren't that helpful for my guy.

The bonded item is a bow (don't talk to me about optimization), and I ended up giving it the Training weapon quality, using the feat Focused Shot.

I still have to select a feat. I have all the of "required" feats for my build that I qualify for, so I was looking for something a little unique or colorful that pertained to another unique aspect of my PC. I'll figure it out. Thanks all.

The Exchange

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Andostre wrote:
The bonded item is a bow (don't talk to me about optimization),

Don't worry, I won't

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and I ended up giving it the Training weapon quality,

Well, maybe we will talk about optimization...

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using the feat Focused Shot.

OK, never mind.


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Well, with a bonded weapon you might look at arcane strike maybe follow jt up with riving strike.

The Exchange

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I'm trying to think if there's a lower-level (and obviously weaker) version of the With This Sword alternate capstone

Chronicle of Legends wrote:
At 20th level, the character’s blade has become as well-known as the character herself. The character selects one item she has—preferably something iconic and significant, such as a weapon or arcane bond. The item becomes a minor artifact and gains 100,000 gp worth of new powers. The player and the GM should work together to select the new powers, with an eye towards making something memorable yet campaign-appropriate. Characters of any class can select this ability.


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Andostre wrote:
The bonded item is a bow (don't talk to me about optimization)

*eyelid twitches*


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Belafon wrote:
I'm trying to think if there's a lower-level (and obviously weaker) version of the With This Sword alternate capstone

Closest thing is probably the built-in option to turn a magic item into your new bonded one:

CRB, page 78 wrote:
A wizard can designate an existing magic item as his bonded item. This functions in the same way as replacing a lost or destroyed item except that the new magic item retains its abilities while gaining the benefits and drawbacks of becoming a bonded item.

So you could use the item and tweak it further by crafting, even without the crafting feat.

Scarab Sages

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Chell Raighn wrote:
Derklord wrote:
Greylurker wrote:
Item Mastery Feats can be pretty handy, though oddly a lot of them are tied to Fort Save. I'm Currently playing a Fighter who can use his weapon to cast Dimension Door. been remarkably helpful
For a Fighter, sure. For a Witch, who has most of the spells castable with Item Mastery feats on her spell list, and gets both later access and fewer daily uses due to the lower fort save, the feats are rather underwhelming.
The main appeal of the feats to a full caster isn’t to get a spell they couldn’t otherwise cast, but rather to free up a spell slot for a different spell.

Still seems an iffy use of a feat given the other options but I'm sure there are players who have more spare feats for their casters than I tend to have.


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Senko wrote:
Chell Raighn wrote:
Derklord wrote:
Greylurker wrote:
Item Mastery Feats can be pretty handy, though oddly a lot of them are tied to Fort Save. I'm Currently playing a Fighter who can use his weapon to cast Dimension Door. been remarkably helpful
For a Fighter, sure. For a Witch, who has most of the spells castable with Item Mastery feats on her spell list, and gets both later access and fewer daily uses due to the lower fort save, the feats are rather underwhelming.
The main appeal of the feats to a full caster isn’t to get a spell they couldn’t otherwise cast, but rather to free up a spell slot for a different spell.
Still seems an iffy use of a feat given the other options but I'm sure there are players who have more spare feats for their casters than I tend to have.

Never said it was a good use of a feat… just that that is the appeal of them for full casters… if you happen to be a full caster with an extra feat and nothing to spend it on, then an item mastery feat could be a decent option to free up a spell slot… but generally full casters do have much better things to spend their feats on.


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I think there is a feat that lets you use an Ioun Stone as your Arcane Bond object. not sure if that would interest you


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Greylurker wrote:
I think there is a feat that lets you use an Ioun Stone as your Arcane Bond object. not sure if that would interest you

That's a wizard "Arcane Discovery," not a feat. But thanks!


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Honestly since you took a weapon as your bonded object, you should just invest in feats to improve your effectiveness with it… for a bow building into the Empty Quiver Style feat chain could be a wise idea.


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Since its a witch with a bow, you can go for the Blood Hex feats. Those have some interesting effects like the Blunt Blade hex, which negates critical hits and prevent the target from using precision damage or sneak attack. Or things like Bull's Eye, which makes it so character that were hit cannot benefit from regular cover, and you stop suffering range penalties.

P.S. Conduit feats are really interesting even if they only have a few uses a day. Those effects are also incredibly rare so they can easily be worth a feat for the right character.


Usually, stuff like that tend to be either a class or an archetype sorta thing... one such example for Wizards is the Poleiheira Adherent.

Not sure if there's anything in 3pp feats that can help with bonded objects but one might look to the various psicrystal feats [if you and the GM don't mind doing a bit of homebrewin'] for Psionics as published 3pp Dreamscarred Press for inspiration- one such example that comes to mind, the Superior Psicrystal feat. ;)

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