10 x ushabti of the willing spirit 39,000
1 x The Master's Name 25,000
1 x golden carriage of gaspar longfellow 114,000
1 x periapt of health 7,500
1 x chest of keeping 9,000
1 x quarterstaff of entwined serpents 5,050
1 x mantle of immortality 50,000
1 x Sihedron Ring 35,000
1 x Apprentice Cheating Gloves 2,200
1 x lyre of building
1 x +5 intelligence tome
1 x +6 intelligence headband with perform(string), diplomacy, sense motive
That makes a bit of a dent in that mess of money.
Taking Scott's conversion to $500 million to be reasonably accurate. You get the lifestyle of the super rich for about 10 years and then declare bankruptcy.
Look at the cost of a super yacht (with helicopter and in built toy garage) then look at the running costs with crew. Now add on the private jet, crew and running costs - not much change left
Alternatively, live on a 'mere' $20M a year (4% interest) and enjoy 1st class travel and 5 star accommodation all year round.
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Because I'd start off wanting to be a spy but then also being able to go anywhere and be comfortable, while also being able to do good in the world, I'd go with something along the lines of:
Torc of Truespeech - 60,000 gp
Spectacles of Understanding - 3,000 gp
Hat of Infinite Disguises - 25,000 gp
Ring of Invisibility - 20,000 gp
Ring of Regeneration - 90,000 gp
Boots of Teleportation - 49,000 gp
Mantle of Immortality - 50,000 gp
Cloak of Etherealness - 55,000 gp
Headband of Mental Superiority +6 - 144,000 gp (know: engineering, diplomacy, sense motive)
Lyre of Building - 13,000 gp
Belt of Physical Perfection - 144,000 gp (because why not?)
Wings of Flying - 54,000
Eye Piercings (Major) - 32,000 gp
Necklace of Adaptation - 9,000 gp
Pearl of the Sirines - 15,300 gp
Sleeves of Many Garments - 200 gp
Apprentice's Cheating Gloves - 2,200 gp
Periapt of Health - 7,500 gp
Pressure Suit - 4,000 gp
And I'd still have 110,300 left over!
with my luck it would be 8,8000,000 torches...
..and then green-peace would riot for all the cut-down trees.
An infinite amount of quarterstaves (cost —). They could be used as a cheap energy source, as building material or to pull the universe together again, by their gravity.
Well, more seriously, maybe I'd take a lot of potions and gift some, keep some. Fox's cunning might be useful at work sometimes, while other spells would help people fighting desasters (haste, protection from fire, water walk). In medicine, cure spells, neutralize poison, remove blindness/deafness and remove disease would go a long way to assist.
And maybe I'd keep a luck blade for myself. Three wishes to change the fate of the world are good enough, I am not willing to carry the responsibility for everyone, all the time.
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97 × DECANTER OF ENDLESS WATER.
Seriously these would do so much for the world.
First, the number one killer in third world countries is lack of access to clean drinking water. Specifically when diseases are present, if the only source of drinking water is diseased then you die. 97 of these wouldn't be enough to end the problem, but it would let medical aid fix the problem before outbreaks become epidemics, or reduce the impact of epidemics (obviously mostly only helps with water-born diseases, but it's still pretty huge).
The big thing though is that these are perpetual motion machines. There's so much that could be done with that, even in the hands of just a small handful of smart people (smarter than me) this would likely revolutionalise the world.
The only thing I've seen on this list so far that rivals perpetual motion is Bjørn Røyrvik's idea of a Ring of INTERPLANETARY TELEPORT (which he said was 306,000gp, meaning we could get 2 if we wanted to). Having the ability to teleport to other planets - or even Galaxies would ABSOLUTELY change the world. With 2 rings you could have 2 people teleport there, then 1 come back with both rings, meaning we could potentially colonize space. It sounds slow (1 person per day) but it'd be thousands of times faster and millions of times more efficient than anything we currently have.
So my money would be:
2 × Ring of Interplanetary Teleport (612,000gp)
29 × Decanter of Endless Water (261,000gp)
Leaving me 7,000gp for myself. Not sure what I'd do with that, but I'm sure I can find something fun - bag of tricks maybe?
97 × DECANTER OF ENDLESS WATER.
Seriously these would do so much for the world.
Yeah, like flood it. It would be a very very slow process, but all that water you create is going into a closed system without things like magic or portals to other planes to reestablish equilibrium.
I'm not 100% convinced an at-will Interplanetary teleport item would be that cheap. Remember if there's a similar item you have to check that price first, and I feel like there are way-gates or something that would count for that.
However bringing 5 people along would make them waaay better, so it doesn't even matter if it is 1/day it's still the best thing ever.
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Yeah, like flood it. It would be a very very slow process, but all that water you create is going into a closed system without things like magic or portals to other planes to reestablish equilibrium.97 × DECANTER OF ENDLESS WATER.
Seriously these would do so much for the world.
The earth actually picks up over 100 metric tonnes of space dust, meteors, etc per day (~40,000 tonnes per year). I don't think the Decanters will have much impact.
The earth is really big guys ... really really big.
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30 gallons/6 sec is about 19 litres/sec. 97 of them is less than 2 cubic metres per second. I mean that's a lot of water on a personal scale but it's nothing on a worldwide scale, either to solve problems or create them. The Earth is big, far bigger than those D&D worlds where a month's walk will cross a continent's largest dimension.
Even one would be fascinating for a spacecraft though.
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A single Decanter of Endless Water can put out 30 gallons per round, which comes to ... 1,038,822,985.06 litres per year (average factoring in leap years). If we assume 1 Litre is 1kg (which is close enough) that's ~1 million tonnes per year.
That's WAAY more than I thought!!
I guess I stand corrected. 97 million tonnes of water could kill us all.
Time for More Math!!
For reference:
The Earth is: ~5,973,600,000,000,000,000,000 Tonnes (almost 6 sextillion).
97 Decanters would add about: 100,000,000 Tonnes per year (100 million).
Also there are approx: 13,000,000,000,000 Tonnes of water on the earth already (13 Trillion).
For perspective, it would take around 1,000 times longer than the age of the universe to add 1% to the earth's mass, so the earth would be fine.
So I don't know how much effect it'll have on the earth - it's huge - but it might have an effect on us. It would take ~1,000 years to add ~1% to to mass of water on the earth, so flooding wouldn't really be the problem (unless you weren't careful with where that water ends up), but I don't know what effect that much water would have on the climate.
Hmmm... I did a quick google search and apparently the melting ice caps are adding ~680,388,555,000 (680 billion) tonnes of water to the oceans every year already.
An extra 100 million tonnes per year certainly wouldn't make that better, but it's only adding ~0.016% more than the current amount, so it's not likely to be a game-changer.
OK I take it all back again . Final verdict, I don't think it would have much impact.
Haha all good =)
Yeah I think 97 decanters (or even just 29 if we spend money on some Interplanetary Teleport rings) would have some significant impacts on certain releaf aids. It wouldn't be a catch-all (we'd need way more) but with targeted efforts it could make a huge difference.
A single Decanter and a dynamo is also a literally endless source of energy. This would also be a huge HUGE thing. Give a few to the right scientists and see if they can replicate them and we've solved the world's energy problems.
Finally the negatives. It took me over an hour (and 4 posts) but I don't think the negatives of the extra water on the earth would have any meaningful impact on the world. The Earth is just way bigger than we realise.
(Also, I'm Australian and I don't know Ziggy ... so I guess it's a NZ thing? Either that or I'm out of touch =P )
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No. Bad maths.
One decanter does about 19 litres/sec as I said (5 gallons/sec x 3.8 litres/gallon). There are 60*60*24*365.2425 or about 31 million seconds per year. That's about 600 000 000 litres/year or 600 000 tonnes of water/year. It sounds like a lot, but it'd irrigate maybe 16 square kilometres (4x4, not 16x16) of warm desert (~1 cm/day required) in the absence of rain.
There's a map here including current river flow measurements for NZ. 97 decanters comes to about 1/10 the current flow of the Hutt River at Taita Gorge. No, I don't expect you have any idea what that is, it's not one of the world's great rivers.
No. Bad maths.
One decanter does about 19 litres/sec as I said (5 gallons/sec x 3.8 litres/gallon). There are 60*60*24*365.2425 or about 31 million seconds per year. That's about 600 000 000 litres/year or 600 000 tonnes of water/year. It sounds like a lot, but it'd irrigate maybe 16 square kilometres (4x4, not 16x16) of warm desert (~1 cm/day required) in the absence of rain.
There's a map here including current river flow measurements for NZ. 97 decanters comes to about 1/10 the current flow of the Hutt River at Taita Gorge. No, I don't expect you have any idea what that is, it's not one of the world's great rivers.
My maths went like this:
30 gallons per round, 10 rounds per minute, 60 minutes per hour, 24 hours per day, 365.25 days per year.
30 × 10 × 60 × 24 × 365.25 = 157,788,000 galons per year.
According to google that's 597292554.574 Litres, or ~597,292 tonnes (assuming 1 Litre = 1 KG).
Hmmm... don't know where I went wrong before, but you're right (it's always good for someone to check your maths).
So the benefits of the Decanters would he about half what we thought (which is sad), but the risk of flooding and/or climate change etc is only half what I thought, and it was already pretty negligable.
The "100 million tonnes" number was assuming 97 Decanters, and was rounding up to 100. I guess it's more like 60 million.
EDIT: Also no, I don't know that river at all =P
I'm not 100% convinced an at-will Interplanetary teleport item would be that cheap. Remember if there's a similar item you have to check that price first, and I feel like there are way-gates or something that would count for that.
Boots of Teleportation cost 49000 for Teleport 3/day, and the calculation gave me 48 600 ((spell level x caster level x 1800) x 3/5) for a command word activated item. I'm not sure where the last 400 gp came from, but I'd argue that it's close enough.
At will Interplanetary Teleport should be 9 x 17 x (1800 or 2000) making it 275 400 for a Command Word activated or 306 000 for for Use-activated or Continuous. I chose the latter initially because there may be situations where you can't speak a command word and still want to get somewhere.
The first rule of magic item crafting is to find a similar item. Boots of Teleportation are a good start, the only other item I could find with anything useful is the WAYFINDER OF THE STARS. It's a 1/day Interplanetary Teleport, but is keyed to 13 planets, so not as useful for galactic exploration.
It's midnight here now and my google-fu is failing me so I'm gonna go to bed, but how does that compare as a 1/day interplanetary teleport item vs your at-will item?
So uh, since you guys are doing the math, how long would it take the 97 Decanters of Endless Water to fill up the Grand Canyon in the US, or, if there is a bigger hole somewhere on Earth, that hole instead?
Grand Canyon: 1 Decanter could do it in around 7 million years, 97 Decanters could do it in a mere ~72,000 years
Well the Wayfinder of the Stars is a slotless item, and also functions as a Wayfinder, so it would throw things off a bit anyway.
After reading it back I think I'm overvaluing Interplanetary Teleport a bit - or undervaluing gold. While 300,000gp doesn't seem like much for an item that allows a civilization eto colonize the stars, it's still ~1/3 of the wealth of an almost-deific being.
So you're probably right about it's cost, or close enough that it doesn't matter.
I mean, we couldn't take any heavy machinery, but considering we could transport ~20 people per minute (assuming it's still at-will) we could get construction crews there and build it all pretty quickly. Oh ~40/minute with 2 rings, my bad.
I guess we could also skip a few Decanters and tske some Bags of Holding instesd too ... are there other items that are more efficient than bags of holding?
Rough calculation: The average depth of the ocean is 12,100 feet. Adding 1% thus raises the sea level by about 121 feet (not counting the effects of flooding land). Thus 1.4 inches/year--about 10x as fast as what global warming is doing to us. About 25,000 years to Waterworld.
However, I don't think it's an issue. They haven't flooded the worlds they're already on, thus I think they must function by drawing upon the world's oceans, not bringing water in from outside.
I don't think that part of Mr Charisma's maths is right either. The surface area of the Earth is 510 million square km of which 71% is water. One cm of water over that area is 510 000 000 x 0.71 x 10 000 = 3.6 trillion tonnes. At 600 000 tonnes/year that's 6 million years of output from 97 decanters. You're not getting a noticeable amount of sea level rise in less time than it took for us to evolve from rats in the shadow of the dinosaurs.
Edit: found the mistake in his post. There are about 10 to the 18th power tonnes of water on Earth, not mere trillions.
For things like the existing water on earth and the mass of the earth I just googled them, so I don't really know how accurate they are.
The one I just googled says: 1.35 x 10^18 = 1,350,000,000,000,000,000 = ~1.3 Quintillion, so yeah if this one's correct I was off by a factor of about 100 thousand.
So instead of 25,000 years to Waterworld it's more like 2,500,000,000 (2.5 Billion) years to Waterworld. I'm ok with that.
And yeah it might be worth checking some of those numbers. Avr already found some mistakes in my calculations (tired brain can't count) and my sources weren't exactly reliable (1st answer on google).
I think we're at the point where we can assume the difference doesn't matter all that much though. If we flood the earth in 2 million years instead of 2 billion then we've still got time. Those calculations were for 97 decanters, with ~29 of them it's more like 6 million years. 6 million years ago is about when we decided we wanted to break up with the chimpanzees, so ... we could evolve webbed feat and floaties by then and won't mind Waterworld.
First off, thanks to everyone who disproved my flooding claim with the numbers to back it up.
I guess we could also skip a few Decanters and tske some Bags of Holding instesd too ... are there other items that are more efficient than bags of holding?
Portable holes are a 6' diameter (3' radius) x 10' deep cylinder, or ~282.74 cubic feet with no weight limit and have no notable weight for the item itself. A bag of holding type IV has 250 cubic feet of space but a weight limit of 1500lbs and weighs 60lbs. Running the numbers, anything with a density of 6lbs/ft^3 (96.11 kg/m^3) will hit the weight limit before the volume limit. This is over 10 times less dense than water, so there are very few materials that would be more efficiently transported with a BoH than a PH.
EDIT: Even taking in to account that you can have 2 type IV bags for the price of a single portable hole, the latter is still a more efficient transportation device.
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From most to least efficient,
Bag of holding (giant) VI: 4000 lb./15 000 gp, but it weighs 150 lb.
Floating sail (smallest): 800 lb./5000 gp, but you have to tow it or something.
Handy haversack: 120 lb./2000 gp, but the volume limits are strict. Easy to get things out tho'.
Minor bag of holding: 50 lb./1000 gp
Bag of holding IV: 250 lb./10 000 gp, but it weighs 60 lb.
And these which are hard to place.
Captain's locker: 250 lb./30 000 gp, weighs 150 lb. and also increases cargo capacity of the hold it's placed in by 50%
Portable hole: 20 000 gp, carries a few tonnes of water, more of gold, less of pillows.
Well of the welcome respite: access to your home, 122 000 gp
But really you're going to be a member of the 0.01% here, you can just pay someone to carry your bags if you're not going to Mars or something.
We could also get a few HEAVYLOAD BELTS and just hire some buff guys to do some transporting.
The portable hole is great for really heavy materials, but all the interdimensional carry-space items have space restrictions as well as weight. A few strong men and women with magic belts could lift a car as they're being teleported and then you have a car.
Honestly a mix of all these options is probably a good idea.
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I always liked that movie, and that idea. Does anyone else thing it would be cool to go swimming through a whole undersea city, or just one really big flooded mega mall?
I feel like I've played that in a computer game of some sort ... maaybe I'm just thinking of Assassins Creed Black Flag (it had underwater sections that kinda felt like that) but I have a vague memory of swimming through a mall in a game.
Anyway yeah I loved that movie. Teaches kids the dangers of smoking - almost as well as Constantine.