Should Aldori Duelist have the feats from the APG Duelist dedication added to it?


Pathfinder Second Edition General Discussion


I'm finding the Aldori Duelist dedication quite lacklustre compared to the duelist from the APG which has almost everything and then some in addition.

You're missing out on 2 feats from Aldori Duelist and something like half a dozen from the APG Duelist.

Could also merge them and add text saying if you're trained in the Aldori Dueling Sword you gain scaling proficiency and access to these additional feats.

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Schreckstoff wrote:

I'm finding the Aldori Duelist dedication quite lacklustre compared to the duelist from the APG which has almost everything and then some in addition.

You're missing out on 2 feats from Aldori Duelist and something like half a dozen from the APG Duelist.

Could also merge them and add text saying if you're trained in the Aldori Dueling Sword you gain scaling proficiency and access to these additional feats.

The APG Duelist certainly takes a lot of the shine off of Aldori Duelist. I don’t necessarily think there isn’t room for both, but because the concept of additional feats for archetypes seems to have post dated the Aldori Duelist, it suffers.

All the pre-APG archetypes could probably benefit from a second look with additional feats in mind.


Luke Styer wrote:
Schreckstoff wrote:

I'm finding the Aldori Duelist dedication quite lacklustre compared to the duelist from the APG which has almost everything and then some in addition.

You're missing out on 2 feats from Aldori Duelist and something like half a dozen from the APG Duelist.

Could also merge them and add text saying if you're trained in the Aldori Dueling Sword you gain scaling proficiency and access to these additional feats.

The APG Duelist certainly takes a lot of the shine off of Aldori Duelist. I don’t necessarily think there isn’t room for both, but because the concept of additional feats for archetypes seems to have post dated the Aldori Duelist, it suffers.

All the pre-APG archetypes could probably benefit from a second look with additional feats in mind.

Doubt we will see anything prior to either a book dedicated to it or at least a revisit to the archetypes in varying books like soft-covers.

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Talonhawke wrote:
Luke Styer wrote:
All the pre-APG archetypes could probably benefit from a second look with additional feats in mind.
Doubt we will see anything prior to either a book dedicated to it or at least a revisit to the archetypes in varying books like soft-covers.

Unfortunately, I doubt it too.


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With the way archetypes work in PF2 I was really hoping we'd see Paizo be willing to expand existing archetypes with updates, but that doesn't appear to be the plan on their end.


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Squiggit wrote:
With the way archetypes work in PF2 I was really hoping we'd see Paizo be willing to expand existing archetypes with updates, but that doesn't appear to be the plan on their end.

Are we sure that we won't see that but more in the Lost Omens line? Legends expanded a bit already on some of the existing archetypes.


Hopefully it will happen until then I might houserule a combination or spice up the Aldori Duelist a little.


The Aldori Duelist needs more feats. I imagine this is going to happen when we visit Brevoy in an AP or a splat, and there's an honest to goodness Swordlord archetype with the same relationship to the Duelist as the Hellknight has to the Hellknight Armiger.


PossibleCabbage wrote:
The Aldori Duelist needs more feats. I imagine this is going to happen when we visit Brevoy in an AP or a splat, and there's an honest to goodness Swordlord archetype with the same relationship to the Duelist as the Hellknight has to the Hellknight Armiger.

True i would rather see new support for archetypes than see new ones. For now they are focusing on adding a lot of options but i hope later they focus only on making the existing options better.


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Red Mantis Assassin got more feats in the Lost Omens: Legends, so more feats for Aldori Duelist in a LO book related to the region or a famous person is very likely.


Honestly after a while juggling with them I see those "organisation" archetypes as fitting game rewards more than character options. Your character did something to earn the trust of the organisation? Here's a free Dedication, what you do with it is up to you.

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