The -2 is for all Fear effects, not just yours.Watch Your Back doesn't work with Demoralize or Coerce which makes me think both of those actions should have the fear tag. This action would only help Rogues with the You're Next reaction or the new Disturbing Knowledge Occultism skill feat, up until Scare to Death at 15.
A creature immune to fear effects shouldn't be able to be Demoralized and gain the Frightened condition. Seems weird.
I know. Obviously you can get it to work with spells like Fear (whether yours or another party member's) but I think it's weird that a penalty to saves against fear effects has no effect on Demoralize.
As it stands if you're planning to do an intimidation build you're probably better off taking the level 1 skill feat Bon Mot than a level 6 class feat (supposedly) built for intimidation that has a downside, which seems pretty off.
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Page 104, Temporary Potions feat
During your daily preparations, you can create a batch of two
temporary oils or potions using a formula you know. These
items follow the normal rules to Craft them, except for the time
they take, with some additional restrictions. They must both
be the same type of oil or potion, and their level must be 6 or
more levels lower than your level. Any items you create this
way become inert bottles of liquid the next time you make your
daily preparations, and any remaining effects of the temporary
items end. A temporary oil or potion has no value.
If you have master proficiency in your tradition’s spell DCs,
you can create a batch of three temporary oils or potions
during your daily preparations, and if you have legendary
proficiency, you can create a batch of four.
Despite the overall design intent for the Witch to be pretty bad, I assume the intent here was for this to mirror the Wizard's similar temporary scroll feat. Unfortunately, the bolded language makes this so that you have to provide the full cost of the potions to make them, and the rest of it means you can't sell them and they evaporate the next day.
Suggest rewriting this to work like the Wizard ability and not cost anything for the potions.
Page 104, Temporary Potions feat
During your daily preparations, you can create a batch of two
temporary oils or potions using a formula you know. These
items follow the normal rules to Craft them, except for the time
they take, with some additional restrictions. They must both
be the same type of oil or potion, and their level must be 6 or
more levels lower than your level. Any items you create this
way become inert bottles of liquid the next time you make your
daily preparations, and any remaining effects of the temporary
items end. A temporary oil or potion has no value.
If you have master proficiency in your tradition’s spell DCs,
you can create a batch of three temporary oils or potions
during your daily preparations, and if you have legendary
proficiency, you can create a batch of four.Despite the overall design intent for the Witch to be pretty bad, I assume the intent here was for this to mirror the Wizard's similar temporary scroll feat. Unfortunately, the bolded language makes this so that you have to provide the full cost of the potions to make them, and the rest of it means you can't sell them and they evaporate the next day.
Suggest rewriting this to work like the Wizard ability and not cost anything for the potions.
It has been suggested that since they have no "value" they also have no "price" and the Crafting activity says you must provide the "price" of the item, but also describes reducing the "value" of the remaining materials if you only want to pay half.
So perhaps by having no "value" they don't require any materials to craft under the crafting rules.
The Oracle feat Divine Access doesn't allow you to cast the gained spells as divine spells, unlike the Cleric ability from their Deity. As far as I can tell, this oversight would make you use the spell DC and spell attack roll of a tradition the gained spell is associated with, which will usually be untrained.
Another feat that gives access to a spell outside of your usual tradition is Crossblooded Evolution for the Sorcerer. It also specifies that you cast the gained spell as a spell of your tradition, so I don't believe this is a case of casters just inherently using their tradition's proficiency when casting spells with their class's spellslots.
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Page 248
Daikyu: This asymmetrical bow, made of laminated
bamboo, wood, and leather, stands 6 feet or more in
height. Using a daikyu while mounted limits its firing
range to your left side.
Since there's no facing in Pathfinder this is meaningless and impossible to enforce. It should be deleted.
Poisoner Archetype have Improved Poison Weapon twice, one at lvl 8 and another at lvl 12.
I believe that the lvl 12 feat is actually Potent Poisoner from Alchemist.
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Technically the witch is not trained in spell casting as the initial proficiencies section states:
"Trained in spell attack rolls of your spellcasting tradition, determined by your first lesson.
Trained in spell DCs of your spellcasting tradition, determined by your first lesson."
Lessons do not give you your spellcasting tradition, your patron theme does. I am very sure this is just the wording changing at some time during development without changing the wording in the initial proficiencies section, as they were lessons, not themes in the playtest.
I noticed that the Rat Magic ancestry feat is missing the Ratfolk trait icon (page 23)...
I am not sure if this is intentional or not, but this does seem to be a Rat thing!! lol
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The Patrons Theme of Night grants the spell Sleep and the Lesson of Dreams also grants the spell Sleep.
Is this a mix up?
The playtest Lesson of Dreams granted the Nightmare spell.
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Stumbling feint should have flurry of blows as a prerequisite.
And should not be part of martial artist (who does not get flurry of blows).
I can't tell if this is intended or not, but the Blessed Spell feat for the Blessed One archetype has the following text:
"When you focus your magic on an ally, you can remove harmful conditions. If your next action is to Cast a Spell from a spell slot, and that spell targets only a single ally, you can also attempt to remove a harmful condition from that ally. The condition must be one that could be removed by your Mercy feat, including those granted by later feats such as Greater Mercy. Attempt a counteract check based on the spell's DC and level. This effect is in addition to the normal effects of your spell."
It says to attempt a counteract check based on the spell's DC and level, but the counteract rule's only mention of a DC is the DC of the effect you're counteracting. This implies that you're rolling a counteract check against your own spell DC, which is quite strange. In most circumstances this is the equivalent to rolling a DC10 flat check for the counteract check.
It is interesting in that it makes any counteract check with the feat have a consistent 5% crit success, 50% success, 40% fail, 5% crit fail chance. This means that you can't reliably use a 1st level spell like Thoughtful Gift to counteract a 4th level effect even when your counteract bonus would be likely to critically succeed against the effect's normal DC.
It says to attempt a counteract check based on the spell's DC and level, but the counteract rule's only mention of a DC is the DC of the effect you're counteracting.
That's not true.
Counteracting
Critical Success: Counteract the target if its counteract level is no
more than 3 levels higher than your effect’s counteract level.
Success: Counteract the target if its counteract level is no
more than 1 level higher than your effect’s counteract level.
Failure: Counteract the target if its counteract level is lower
than your effect’s counteract level.
Critical: Failure You fail to counteract the target.
See bolded part.
That's what Blessed Spell is referring to. When you cast a spell, you do that spell's normal effects, and then treat the same spell as if you were performing a counteract with that spell. It is simply reminding you that your spell's level and your spellcasting modifier are based on the spell you just cast:Counteracting
When attempting a counteract check, add the relevant
skill modifier or other appropriate modifier to your check
against the target’s DC.
This DC is the effect you are attempting to remove, calculated as normal:
Counteracting
When attempting a counteract check, add the relevant
skill modifier or other appropriate modifier to your check
against the target’s DC. If you’re counteracting an affliction,
the DC is in the affliction’s stat block. If it’s a spell, use the
caster’s DC.etc. etc.
This implies that you're rolling a counteract check against your own spell DC, which is quite strange
I read it as doing a counteract against the "harmful condition".
And what Draco said. Level is required for counter act checks.
The Returned (rare) background says:
You died and miraculously returned with knowledge of the realms beyond death and a stronger link to life. Some dead and undead souls might feel a strange, instinctual kinship with you.
Choose two ability boosts. One must be to Constitution or Wisdom, and one is a free ability boost.
You gain the Diehard feat and the Additional Lore feat for Boneyard Lore
Instead of granting the Additional Lore feat to grant Boneyard Lore, why not just give the Boneyard Lore directly?
Background DO (usually) grant a Lore skill...!!
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The Returned (rare) background says:
You died and miraculously returned with knowledge of the realms beyond death and a stronger link to life. Some dead and undead souls might feel a strange, instinctual kinship with you.
Choose two ability boosts. One must be to Constitution or Wisdom, and one is a free ability boost.
You gain the Diehard feat and the Additional Lore feat for Boneyard Lore
Instead of granting the Additional Lore feat to grant Boneyard Lore, why not just give the Boneyard Lore directly?
Background DO (usually) grant a Lore skill...!!
They seem to making those backgrounds deliberately stronger.
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The additional lore feat grants a lore that autoscales with your level. Background lores don't usually do that.
The additional lore feat grants a lore that autoscales with your level. Background lores don't usually do that.
Can you please clarify what you mean by that?
Thanks!
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The additional lore feat:
Your knowledge has expanded to encompass a new field. Choose an additional Lore skill subcategory. You become trained in it. At 3rd, 7th, and 15th levels, you gain an additional skill increase you can apply only to the chosen Lore subcategory.
So the Returned background grants you trained proficiency in Boneyard Lore, which becomes expert proficiency at level 3, master proficiency at level 7, and legendary proficiency at level 15.
Normally the lore you get from your background just stays at trained unless you invest skill increases in it (generally a poor use of resources.)
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The additional lore feat:
So the Returned background grants you trained proficiency in Boneyard Lore, which becomes expert proficiency at level 3, master proficiency at level 7, and legendary proficiency at level 15.
Normally the lore you get from your background just stays at trained unless you invest skill increases in it (generally a poor use of resources.)
Oh you're right!! I had not considered the leveling effects - thanks for the clarification!!!
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It says to attempt a counteract check based on the spell's DC and level, but the counteract rule's only mention of a DC is the DC of the effect you're counteracting.That's not true.
How is that not true? The counteract rule's only mention of a DC is that of the effect you're counteracting, ctrl+f 'DC' in the counteract rules. The level of your counteract effect and the level of the effect you're trying to counteract are entirely separate from the DC.
Counteracting
Critical Success: Counteract the target if its counteract level is no
more than 3 levels higher than your effect’s counteract level.
Success: Counteract the target if its counteract level is no
more than 1 level higher than your effect’s counteract level.
Failure: Counteract the target if its counteract level is lower
than your effect’s counteract level.
Critical: Failure You fail to counteract the target.
See bolded part.
That's what Blessed Spell is referring to. When you cast a spell, you do that spell's normal effects, and then treat the same spell as if you were performing a counteract with that spell. It is simply reminding you that your spell's level and your spellcasting modifier are based on the spell you just cast:
Why would it mention your spell's DC, which is the same for all of your levels of spells, if it was simply reminding what level your spell is? If the intent is to remind you what tradition's proficiency you should use then surely there are more clear ways to say that, such as
"Attempt a counteract check based on the spell's tradition and level" or"Attempt a counteract check based on the spell's attack modifier and level" (similarly nonsensical to the DC being used, but at least it is the actual modifier you'll apply to the counteract check) or
"Attempt a counteract check based on the spell's proficiency and level."
I don't believe that DC and proficiency is used interchangeably anywhere else in the rules either, it certainly isn't in the counteract rules.
I'm pretty sure this is a mistake or oversight with the wording of the feat. If it simply made no mention of the spell's DC (which is immaterial to the counteract check, assuming it worked as a normal counteract check should) then it would work like almost every other counteract effect in the game.
It should simply say "Attempt a counteract check based on the spell's level."
Sorry if this big post makes it seem as though I think this is an important issue, it is incredibly minor. Just trying to clarify my point of view.
Dragon Disciple's Breath of the Dragon feat gives the Dragon Breath Focus Spell, but no proficiency for non-Sorcerers (there's no tradition trait for the spell) nor spellcasting ability for non-casters.
Personally I'd like it to run off class or spellcasting DC, whichever's greater, for the sake of Dragon Instinct Barbarians.
The description of the Familiar Master archetype mentions homunculus familiars, and the poison reservoir familiar ability only works with homunculus familiars. It seems odd that there isn't an option to get a homunculus familiar. I don't know if something was accidentally left out or if those parts were accidentally included.
Using the entry in the Bestiary we could approximate a homunculus just like we do with animal Familiars.
This brings up another error.
Alchemists don't have direct access to Enhanced Familiar.
To approximate the Homunculus,which has(at a minimum) Darkvision, Flier,and Poison Reservoir, an Alchemist would need to take a dedication.
Homunculus should be a specific familiar and Alchemists should have direct access the feats they need to get it.
I'm sure this will be fixed in the the errata.
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pg 32: I'm going to guess that Dhampir have elongated canines, rather than incisors, unless for some reason Dhampir are generally buck-toothed
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pg 32: I'm going to guess that Dhampir have elongated canines, rather than incisors, unless for some reason Dhampir are generally buck-toothed
I mean, they could be referring to the lateral incisors, which would not qualify as bucktoothed and might actually make more sense than elongated canines for a creature that feeds by sucking blood but doesn't necessarily want to kill its victims.
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The witch MC dedication needs to specify if you get a normal familiar (respawn in one week or one day) and whether you get the extra witch familiar abilities (obviously not, but hard to separate from the daily replacement without explicitly stating it).
The witch MC dedication needs to specify if you get a normal familiar (respawn in one week or one day) and whether you get the extra witch familiar abilities (obviously not, but hard to separate from the daily replacement without explicitly stating it).
without the witch one, you would not be able to prepare/cast spells.
And that includes the extra abilities (-1).But yea, still should be clarified.
The witch MC dedication needs to specify if you get a normal familiar (respawn in one week or one day) and whether you get the extra witch familiar abilities (obviously not, but hard to separate from the daily replacement without explicitly stating it).without the witch one, you would not be able to prepare/cast spells.
And that includes the extra abilities (-1).But yea, still should be clarified.
I think the intent is that it’s a normal one you that you use to prep spells. There’s zero chance they intend the extra familiar abilities, which amount to two extra feats (or one wizard thesis class feature) as you level. I’m not sure about whether they want to give a daily respawn, which can be abused pretty easily.
I think the intent is that it’s a normal one you that you use to prep spells. There’s zero chance they intend the extra familiar abilities, which amount to two extra feats (or one wizard thesis class feature) as you level. I’m not sure about whether they want to give a daily respawn, which can be abused pretty easily.The witch MC dedication needs to specify if you get a normal familiar (respawn in one week or one day) and whether you get the extra witch familiar abilities (obviously not, but hard to separate from the daily replacement without explicitly stating it).without the witch one, you would not be able to prepare/cast spells.
And that includes the extra abilities (-1).But yea, still should be clarified.
normal ones do not let you prepare spells (beyond the 1 cantrip the dedication feat mentions).
And if it dies, a normal replacement will not know the spells. Plus you cannot cast for a week. That is even worse than an "extra" feat.
So it has to be the witch one.
That said, "But does not gain extra abilities" would be fine.
Talisman Dabbler
Really seems like this should have Crafting training as a prerequisite.
Otherwise "You can craft talismans..." does not explain how to do that.
Talisman Dabbler
Really seems like this should have Crafting training as a prerequisite.
Otherwise "You can craft talismans..." does not explain how to do that.
after looking at alchemists dedication...
I am changing my suggestion to say "you gain training in crafting".
Was this mentioned?
Form Retention says Animal Form, but Wizards dont have access to that spell. Also Form Retention currently has no effect at the level its gained.
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Swashbuclker Fencer, Exemplary Finisher
"The foe is flat-footed until your next turn."
Is that beginning of, or end of?
I presume end of, since you can't attack after a finisher.
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Is that beginning of, or end of?
I presume end of, since you can't attack after a finisher.
Yeah, but you aren't the only one to gain a benefit from flat footed. Personally I would rule start of as it is the most literal reading, but it does need an errata.
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Nudge Fate should not have a saving throw.