Anyone who gets both Flame Blade and Fireball?


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Are there any classes who have access to both Flame Blade and Fireball and can use both effectively?

Druids with the Fire domain get both, but only get Fireball in the very limited domain spell slot.
Theologian archetype Clerics who worship Sarenrae and take the Fire domain get both, but now Flame Blade is competing for the same 3rd level spell slots that Fireball uses.
Magaambyan Initiate archetype Arcanists can get both without competing spell levels, but their BAB is awful, so using Flame Blade pretty tough.
Enlightened Bloodragers can get both and have great BAB, but extremely limited spells per day.

Nature Bonded Magus can get both, at the correct levels, with decent BAB, but the archetype gives up Arcane Pool and Spell Recall for stuff that totally isn't worth that loss.

Is there any way to get both spells on the other 6th-level casters?


Halcyon Druids can choose Arcane spells every even level to add to their spell list.
the catch is that they can only choose fireball once they have access to level 4 spells.


Reliquarian Occultist with the Lightning Subdomain. The Reliquarian adds their domain spells to their spell list and spells known, so you'd get it as a 2nd-level spell. Although it deals lightning damage by default, that's nothing a Lesser Elemental Metamagic Rod can't fix.

Bonus:
1. Can apply a scaling enhancement bonus and weapon abilities such as Bane to your Flame Blade through the Legacy Weapon base focus power. (effects that affect weapons work on [Flame Blade])
2. Trappings of the Warrior for full BAB. (prob at lv 10 since you want the Evocation school for fireballs)
3. You're playing an Occultist, but won't get hosed whenever you get intimidated. Woo!

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Magus, one level dip in wizard (e.g. diviner is a pretty good deal), Magambyan Arcanist prestige class.

That gives you Flame Blade and Arcane Pool, which probably makes you the best FB user out there.


Preferred Spell lets you get an unlimited number of castings of one domain spell of your choice.


Shaman has flame blade and could gain fireball with the arcane enlightenment hex.


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A Samsaran oracle of flame with the alternative racial trait Mystic Past Life can get Flame Blade as a second level spell. Fire Mystery give Fireball as a 3rd level spell.

Oracle is a full caster not a level 6 caster, but it does meet your criteria other than that.


I think he was just wanting a good BAB. Cleric was mentioned so I don’t think full casters were necessarily excluded.

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A Flame Spirit Shaman gets both (Fireball is a 3rd lvl Spirit Spell, and Flame Blade is a 2nd lvl Shaman spell).


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A Flame Spirit Shaman gets both (Fireball is a 3rd lvl Spirit Spell, and Flame Blade is a 2nd lvl Shaman spell).

The issue there is OP wants to be able to fire it off more than once. If you get the Waves hex that lets you use spirit magic spells in your normal slots as a Wandering Hex (or you're an Unsworn Shaman) this will work.

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A Naga Aspirant Druid can add Fireball to their spell list.


A Gathlain Bard with the Flame Dancer archetype can get both as Bard spells. Fireball is obtained from the archetype at level 8 and flame blade can be obtained from the Gathlain favored class bonus starting at level 7.

Incidently, I also found the Flame Blade Dervish Combat feat while looking up the other stuff. It adds 10ft to base speed while flame blade is active and adds your charisma modifier to its damage.

Links:
Gathlain
Flame Dancer
Flame Blade Dervish Combat


Druid 6/Pathfinder savant 2 can pick up fireball and add it as a 4th-level spell. Kinda hurts bumping it up a spell level, though.

Mystic theurge can do it if you don't mind relegating the non-casty druid class features to the sidelines.

Pearls of power make the one-off options like domains and spirits more palatable--if you can afford 9,000 a pop. Might be better off with a staff at that point. (Edit: I can't believe I just typed that.)

There are a number of abilities that let you read scrolls at your own caster level, so that's a thing as well if you need repeatability.

Spell research is a thing.

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With the Unique Spell Preperation options from Sarenrae, you can prep Flame Blade as a small variety of casters.


You can sort of do this with an Oracle with the Flame mystery.

They get fireball as their 3rd level bonus spell, and one of their mysteries:

Touch of Flame (Su): As a standard action, you can perform a melee touch attack that deals 1d6 points of fire damage +1 point for every two oracle levels you possess. You can use this ability a number of times per day equal to 3 + your Charisma modifier. At 11th level, any weapon that you wield is treated as a flaming weapon.

If you're goal is to be "fiery", this is also a good route to explore.


I wonder if there is any other way to get Flameblade on an aoccultist. Other than relaquarian with Domain.
I'd adore if a Talisman Crafter could get it, honestly that would be a pretty awesome combo. I love handing out those spells.
Samsaran race does ad spells. from one class of the same casting type.
(which doesn't help occultist in specific as i don't think any psychics get flame blade?)
but could potentially help any class that gets other stuff


If you're ok with only being able to cast them each twice per day as a spell like ability. Then anyone can have both by selecting Nataka with the appropriate obedience feat. On the plus side you actually get a maximized fireball. Unfortunately, since it's the 3rd tier boon it isn't something you'll see until high levels.

There are others that give one or the other but none of them grant both at the same time. But if you can get your hands on one of the spells, then it's easier to get the other

The following Grant Fireball as a spell like ability:

Asmodeus
Moloch
Flauros
Szuriel
Eiseth
Sarenrae
Urgathoa
Dahak
Urxehl
Zurapadyn
Furcas

The following Grant Flame Blade as a spell like ability but in place of fireball not in addition to:

Eiseth
Moloch

I know there are ways to recharge spell like abilities (eg. Innate Arcana). But I don't know if any of those would actually work with SP gained via the obediance feats. So, this may not help unless you have some way to replenish your uses per day.

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