Paizo Blog: Tales of Lost Omens: Questioning Nature


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Primal Magic is not Divine Magic I have always preferred that distinction.

Love the dynamic with these to and the conversations.

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I know this is short story written to illustrate the green faith and laws of mortality, but I could really see book written about these two characters huh xD


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CorvusMask wrote:
I know this is short story written to illustrate the green faith and laws of mortality, but I could really see book written about these two characters huh xD

Agreed!!!!


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Well done!


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Great job in making these characters so interesting with so little.

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This brings up something I hadn't really pondered until now - primal casters are more welcome in Rhahadoum than divine casters, meaning druids get a pass that clerics don't. I don't anticipate that being a distinction every Pure Legionnaire to make, but it's a distinction that didn't exist before 2E.

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It did exist, in the sense that druids have always been present in Rahadoum, as were spellcasting rangers, but the difference between divine, arcane, primal, and occult magic is one invented by us in the real world rather than necessarily codified within the world of Golarion itself. Certainly not to someone who isn't schooled in magic. And really not someone who was raised and employed to keep their nation safe from the influence of deities and who is likely always on the lookout or paranoid about something slipping past their watch.

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That spit-lizard on the rocks or those flowers by the pool?

Do not taunt the smol lizard shaped deity.


Misroi wrote:
This brings up something I hadn't really pondered until now - primal casters are more welcome in Rhahadoum than divine casters, meaning druids get a pass that clerics don't. I don't anticipate that being a distinction every Pure Legionnaire to make, but it's a distinction that didn't exist before 2E.

Looks like Druids get a very uneasy pass, which is actually not too far off from what I expected.


I’d not read up on the Pure Legion before this. Now they are one of my favourite things in Pathfinder. I hope they make it in some form to Starfinder too, although that may make them a bit slow with the inability to use the Drift ideologically.

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Them showing up in Starfinder wouldn't make as much sense to be honest. They are very much tied to Rahadoum. Plus religious freedom is kind of modern ideology so group of people seeking to restrict it wouldn't be as good fit in Starfinder outside of tyrannical governments. So you wouldn't have Pure Legion in Starfinder without Rahadoum, at most you'd have planets with similar governments.


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I guess there could be a human colony planet in the Vast called "New Rahadoum", but even that would imply that Rahadoum survives until Golarion's space age, which would be information that I don't think Paizo would want to commit themselves to as being canonical.

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I guess there could be a human colony planet in the Vast called "New Rahadoum", but even that would imply that Rahadoum survives until Golarion's space age, which would be information that I don't think Paizo would want to commit themselves to as being canonical.

Not necessarily, perhaps Rahadomi wizards decided they wanted an entire world where there simply wasn't any clerics to worry about, they use interplanetary teleport magics to leave Golarion and go 'elsewhere'. Their new planet, which they build entirely based upon the laws of man, far, far away from Golarion, advances technologically just like everyone else does and eventually they become a star faring people and find that much to their dismay... there are gods everywhere out there.


As a big Rahadoum fan this was lovely. More content, even fiction, in this country is always welcome! Btw, I've read the Salim Gadafar novels and LOVE THEM. And I had a Pure Legionnaire as my first PFS PC.

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This was beautifully written. I wonder what Salim would think of the Green Faith and Primal Magic...


When did Rahadoum become Rhahadoum?

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Gisher wrote:
When did Rahadoum become Rhahadoum?

2555 AR


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CorvusMask wrote:
I know this is short story written to illustrate the green faith and laws of mortality, but I could really see book written about these two characters huh xD

I fully agree.

I was truly enjoying the conversation between them, and just want to learn more of these two individuals, then poof the text came to an end. I really like Patrick's style of writing of this blog post, quite similar to James L. Sutter, which I enjoy reading.

I so hoping Patrick will take up the challenge to write a novel about this two individuals, so i can feast on the world his painting for us, and the tough balancing of political perceptions.

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Will the Legionnaire multiclass in Druid?

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Them showing up in Starfinder wouldn't make as much sense to be honest. They are very much tied to Rahadoum. Plus religious freedom is kind of modern ideology so group of people seeking to restrict it wouldn't be as good fit in Starfinder outside of tyrannical governments. So you wouldn't have Pure Legion in Starfinder without Rahadoum, at most you'd have planets with similar governments.

The Rahadoumi section of Absalom Station is rather unwelcoming to Drift pilots and engineers.


I always held the thought the encroachment of the desert was the result of not the gods' vengeance, but the gods removing their protections to respect the will of the ruling class of Rahadoum, but now the thought occurs to me that if there is an imbalance if it is Rahadoum's doing? Either accidentally or more likely another one of their false flag operations.

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I always held the thought the encroachment of the desert was the result of not the gods' vengeance, but the gods removing their protections to respect the will of the ruling class of Rahadoum, but now the thought occurs to me that if there is an imbalance if it is Rahadoum's doing? Either accidentally or more likely another one of their false flag operations.

Ooooor... That dangerous Eternal Oasis is actually sucking the life out of the surrounding environment... :O

Maybe a powerful spellcasting creature in there doing this.


Elfteiroh wrote:

Ooooor... That dangerous Eternal Oasis is actually sucking the life out of the surrounding environment... :O

Maybe a powerful spellcasting creature in there doing this.

Those are interesting thoughts and just as probable as other suggestions.


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It did exist, in the sense that druids have always been present in Rahadoum, as were spellcasting rangers, but the difference between divine, arcane, primal, and occult magic is one invented by us in the real world rather than necessarily codified within the world of Golarion itself. Certainly not to someone who isn't schooled in magic. And really not someone who was raised and employed to keep their nation safe from the influence of deities and who is likely always on the lookout or paranoid about something slipping past their watch.

"He who names miracle magic, insults churches and gods, and he who attributes unto a spell divinity, insults its caster. Confusing magick and religion is both offensive and blasphemous." -- Genin, On Magick.


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Gisher wrote:
When did Rahadoum become Rhahadoum?
2555 AR

I'm confused. You're saying that it was always spelled "Rhahadoum?" The new World Guide spells it "Rahadoum."


If you go to Rahadoum, you will die.


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Y'know, while I've always thought the druid class was cool, I've struggled to integrate and utilize them in my campaigns in a meaningful way without my early D&D days imposing ideas about Celtic inspiration, pro-wilderness/anti-civilization, eco-friendly/eco-warrior, monolithic hierarchy, etc. This didn't really change with 3e & PF1 when druids could be any neutral alignment. How do you square the circle for good-aligned druids and evil-aligned druids, especially if part of the same organization/faith? Etc.

I'm sure this falls into the "well, of course, duh" category for most/many but until reading this Tale and coupling it with PF2's primal-focused instead of divine-focused druids, it never really clicked for me...

...but druids can basically be treated as Pathfinder's answer to Force users. Drawing their power from life itself (almost like an energy field, wink, wink) and applying it to their desired ends... And unlike a deity, this lifeforce/energy doesn't explicitly spell out what it wants and how to obtain it, so philosophical & dogmatic differences can arise easily.

I know it's not a perfect analogy but it's a much more interesting one to me than eco-hippy traveling with the murder-hobos that I usually see in adventuring groups. It definitely gives me a lot of inspiration on creating different druidic factions for may campaigns.

Kudos to Patrick Hurley! I love these Tales of the Lost Omens blogs!


Is this official canon, im hoping to run a home campaign in Rahadoum and i'm looking for as much lore as possible to work off of (i'm ignoring the whole slavery thing, getting a bit sick of it after running hells venegance want to focus on the divine bad stuff)


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I think James Jacobs said somewhere on the boards here, that slavery in Rahadoum is something they'd want to get rid of.

Can't be lawful nuetral and allow legal slavery, because slavery is so completely evil, etc.

So I think you're pretty on base cutting slavery, and focusing on the other challenging aspects of Rahadoum.


Failedlegend The Eternal Gish wrote:
Is this official canon, im hoping to run a home campaign in Rahadoum and i'm looking for as much lore as possible to work off of (i'm ignoring the whole slavery thing, getting a bit sick of it after running hells venegance want to focus on the divine bad stuff)

Safe to assume any fiction posted on their official website by staff is canon, yes.

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