| Kelseus |
Apparently a product page for Pathfinder: Feybound was posted and then quickly deleted overnight.
Enworld has an article on the book description and cover art.
Per the article:
Feybound includes a gazetteer of the First World, a first draft of the Universe fey call home, and expanded details on the godlike beings called the Eldest.
players and GMs can use creatures, items, archetypes and more inspired by fey and fairy tales.
Cast curses, transformations, and memory magic! Be inspired by a trickster muse for bards! Ride a unicorn!
Play fey ancestries—fauns, gremlins, nymphs, and sprites—or choose the fadrim versatile heritage to add a bit of fey magic to any character.
Let the speculation commence!
| Kelseus |
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My guess would be in a format like Howl of the Wild and Rage of Elements. Lots of good ancestries, setting info and feats/archetypes/items. Then some great article and in character pages about the First World.
Nice to see the Sprite get a remaster pass. Also adding fauns seems like a no brainer after the minataur and centaur.
I am interested in memory magic.
Also maybe they can squeeze the shifter in there somewhere?
| exequiel759 |
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exequiel759 wrote:I hope we get a fey ancestry / heritage!Like Sprite and Fey-touched Gnome.
I was talking something along the lines of "generic fey ancestry or heritage that's vague enough but has cool supporting mechanics that when I want to play a generic fey character I can use it without thinking much, much like aasimar or tiefling when I want to play an angel or demon-like character".
| moosher12 |
Finoan wrote:I was talking something along the lines of "generic fey ancestry or heritage that's vague enough but has cool supporting mechanics that when I want to play a generic fey character I can use it without thinking much, much like aasimar or tiefling when I want to play an angel or demon-like character".exequiel759 wrote:I hope we get a fey ancestry / heritage!Like Sprite and Fey-touched Gnome.
Yeah, for example, there is the Old Beldame in Kingmaker, a green-skinned witch who people assumed was a green hag, but in reality, she was just feytouched, possibly fadrim depending on what fadrim ends up being. There was also the Bhopanese who were animal-headed people. Not quite anthromorphs, as they seem by the photo to have furless bodies, but fey-touched nonetheless.
But essentially, ancestries that are not necessarily fey, but another ancestry with fey influence transforming them. There is of course the Fey-Influence feat line, but frankly, a single feat line always felt lackluster compared to the scope of being a nephilim or a geniekin.
I'm hoping that Fadrim is just Sylvan (I know it was switched to fey, but I prefer saying sylvan) for fey-touched.
BotBrain
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My guess would be in a format like Howl of the Wild and Rage of Elements. Lots of good ancestries, setting info and feats/archetypes/items. Then some great article and in character pages about the First World.
Nice to see the Sprite get a remaster pass. Also adding fauns seems like a no brainer after the minataur and centaur.
I am interested in memory magic.
Also maybe they can squeeze the shifter in there somewhere?
I feel like if we were gonna get shifter it'd be playtested. I'd love to hope but I just do not see it.
That aside I really do hope we get that nephalim but for fey vers heritage people have been hankering for. Edit: the listing says we do, oops.
| Karys |
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Sounds like the gremlins are already loose if book listings are going up early then vanishing. I for one welcome our new fey overlords!
Also very excited to see a fey versatile heritage!
| Perpdepog |
I'm not the biggest fey fan overall, they've just never jived with me, but those ancestries and possible archetypes sound really cool. Also looking forward to seeing what we get on the Eldest; those guys don't tend to get a lot of page space to themselves, so having more room to stretch should give us some cool lore!
| TheTownsend |
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Shame we didn't have Faun or Nymph published when Mythspeaker came out!
From the cover (what record of it exists at this point) it looks like at a minimum we can know a few monster stats getting remastered: the Kishi, Baobhan Sith (which is pronounced "bah-vahn shee" for anyone curious), and the Nuglub from bestiaries 1 & 2, along with the Cat Sith (again, "shee", no red lightsabers) from an AP. The little red bird lady in the lower left seems to be a Kikimora, another slavic House Spirit that had stats in 1e Bestiary 5. The only figures on the cover I can't make heads or tails of are the blue-skinned cloud-haired lady who looks like Cloudia from I Hate Fairyland drinking with the satyr, and the ghastly figure in the suit standing behind the Gnome Queen.
I'd also bet this is where the Nymph Sorcerer bloodline will get remastered.
By my question is, if the "Ride a unicorn!" in the listing is implying a Unicorn animal companion… will the rules specify your character has to be a virgin???
| AFigureOfBlue |
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TheTownsend wrote:Shame we didn't have Faun or Nymph published when Mythspeaker came out!Yeah my big Iblydos campaign I have been working on for over a year starts Tuesday. So that's me sighing heavily lol.
Could always use the Satyr and Nymph ancestries that Battlezoo published in the meantime, they're both quite well-designed imo.
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Trickster Bard is very exciting to me. I'm looking forward to seeing what the first couple of feats are for it. Hoping for a nice focus spell in there!
A versatile fey heritage is also appreciated. I know we have the rare fey feats, but having the standard approach available is nice.
Of the ancestries, I think Faun is what I'm most looking forward to.
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BotBrain wrote:Not necessarily, especially if it doesn't have new mechanics, but instead has a remix of old ones.
I feel like if we were gonna get shifter it'd be playtested. I'd love to hope but I just do not see it.
If you're saying as just an archetype, then yeah. But I can confidently say that even if they ever do release a non-playtested class in a non-Gencon book, they would definitely mention it in the book description. It would be a huge waste of sales to hide the biggest selling point.
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Excellent! I do love Paizo's take on the Fey and look forward to the expanded details for the Eldest.
My current character has been heavily implied to have a connection to "The Many", so I'm definitely looking forward to more info on Shyka (even if this will release many months after the campaign's end, which itself is likely two months away at most). Hoping that all of the Eldest get really off-the-wall Boon and Curse entries to really underscore their fickle and esoteric natures!
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I’m wondering how much of this will overlap with 1E’s excellent First World: The Realm of the Fey? That book was mostly massive amounts of lore and I’ve used it extensively in my 2E campaign for information on 1st World locations and the Eldest. I’m hoping we get new information to supplement that, rather than republishing a lot of previous info. The ancestries are a promising addition!
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Here's a Writeup of the Paizo Live event from someone on Reedit for other future goodies: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1AS_d85X_Bbb95BX9GEi3KEghTQcgdIghUX6csxF fDdc/edit?tab=t.0
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Here's a Writeup of the Paizo Live event from someone on Reedit for other future goodies: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1AS_d85X_Bbb95BX9GEi3KEghTQcgdIghUX6csxF fDdc/edit?tab=t.0
The-Magic-Sword does a lot of these write-ups. They're pretty great.
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BotBrain wrote:Not necessarily, especially if it doesn't have new mechanics, but instead has a remix of old ones.
I feel like if we were gonna get shifter it'd be playtested. I'd love to hope but I just do not see it.
If it's an archtype, which I didn't consider. we could see it, I suppose.
BotBrain
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I just hope we can get some funny/tricky stuff.
Like a feat that lets fey characters do some tricky stuff like "May I have your name?" shenanigans.
Perhaps we'll see a reprint of the SOM true name system? Hopefully it gets a bit more to it because I quite like the idea of it, there's just not much there.
LoreMonger13
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The store page for Feybound is up!
I really like the narrative conceit of the book taking place at an all-included Firstworld gala, that feels very apropos and fun ^_^
| ornathopter |
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Oh excellent! I'm excited to see what they do for the nymphs - up until now the main option has been Battlezoo's, and the ridiculous emphasis on how hot you are all the time, how your abilities are half about being hot, 'YOU MIGHT: not realize how hot people think you are! OTHERS MIGHT: get upset that someone so hot is friendzoning them!' was not what I wanted out of playing a cool nature spirit. Fingers crossed they also add a gargoyle ancestry sometime.
I'm excited to see what the curses are too. And archetypes and items! There's so many weird fairy tales to be inspired by.
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Oh excellent! I'm excited to see what they do for the nymphs - up until now the main option has been Battlezoo's, and the ridiculous emphasis on how hot you are all the time, how your abilities are half about being hot, 'YOU MIGHT: not realize how hot people think you are! OTHERS MIGHT: get upset that someone so hot is friendzoning them!' was not what I wanted out of playing a cool nature spirit. Fingers crossed they also add a gargoyle ancestry sometime.
I'm excited to see what the curses are too. And archetypes and items! There's so many weird fairy tales to be inspired by.
While there might be some of the OG "stunning beauty" stuff, I imagine Paizo will make Nymphs much more interesting, considering they're now a whole group that includes Dryads, Hesperids, Hora, Lampads, Naiads, and potentially new ones in this very book. (Winter/boreal theme, please!)
In fact I'd imagine each of those being Heritages, or their niches being represented through heritages (woodland, water, caverns, light, etc)
| kaid |
Oh excellent! I'm excited to see what they do for the nymphs - up until now the main option has been Battlezoo's, and the ridiculous emphasis on how hot you are all the time, how your abilities are half about being hot, 'YOU MIGHT: not realize how hot people think you are! OTHERS MIGHT: get upset that someone so hot is friendzoning them!' was not what I wanted out of playing a cool nature spirit. Fingers crossed they also add a gargoyle ancestry sometime.
I'm excited to see what the curses are too. And archetypes and items! There's so many weird fairy tales to be inspired by.
I assume there will be some of that simply because nymphs are by their nature alluring but hopefully it is a bit less of their focus and more focus on their nature background and muse like encouragement of bards and the art.
| TheTownsend |
I've just noticed there's a crow holding a dagger on the cover. Is this an awakened animal? Could we get more awakened animal options? (Please I need that armoured heritage to play an armadillo)
Makes a certain amount of sense, how else are you to play the Mock Turtle?
(I kind of assumed that was a Vilderavn playing it cool, though. Which, checking now isn't actually within their change shape wheelhouse but I'm willing to excuse some artistic liberty)
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BotBrain wrote:I've just noticed there's a crow holding a dagger on the cover. Is this an awakened animal? Could we get more awakened animal options? (Please I need that armoured heritage to play an armadillo)Makes a certain amount of sense, how else are you to play the Mock Turtle?
(I kind of assumed that was a Vilderavn playing it cool, though. Which, checking now isn't actually within their change shape wheelhouse but I'm willing to excuse some artistic liberty)
Maybe it's a Littlravn? =P
| Crystal Caves Mystic |
I'm so excited for this book! My favorite characters for druids/primal sorcerers has been the gnome but only a couple "fit" without going elemental versatile heritage. I use the Pixie for the primal witch subclasses. Since it's small instead of Tiny it usually gets green-lit by the GM. I hope the Fey ancestries are small/medium. I don't want to be told no when I want to play them LOL.
| TheTownsend |
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I'm so excited for this book! My favorite characters for druids/primal sorcerers has been the gnome but only a couple "fit" without going elemental versatile heritage. I use the Pixie for the primal witch subclasses. Since it's small instead of Tiny it usually gets green-lit by the GM. I hope the Fey ancestries are small/medium. I don't want to be told no when I want to play them LOL.
I think it's safe to assume Faun and Nymph will be medium. Gremlin I'm betting will match the Sprite pattern of being tiny with a couple small heritages.
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The store page for Feybound is up!
I really like the narrative conceit of the book taking place at an all-included Firstworld gala, that feels very apropos and fun ^_^
The narrative frameworks and emphasis on the narrators' authorial voice are probably my favorite changes we've seen out of PF2E books, and I love that they're getting more emphasized as we go along.
I hope our narrator for this book is super catty, dishing out dirt to the reader on the various characters they spotlight.
| TheTownsend |
LoreMonger13 wrote:The store page for Feybound is up!
I really like the narrative conceit of the book taking place at an all-included Firstworld gala, that feels very apropos and fun ^_^
The narrative frameworks and emphasis on the narrators' authorial voice are probably my favorite changes we've seen out of PF2E books, and I love that they're getting more emphasized as we go along.
I hope our narrator for this book is super catty, dishing out dirt to the reader on the various characters they spotlight.
That cloud-haried woman on the cover looks like she has some gossip ready to go!
| JiCi |
Sprites were not remastered yet, so...
Nymphs are kinda easy to predict:
- dryad (wood)
- hesperid (light)
- lampad (earth)
- naiad (water)
- oceanid (water)
- hora (fire, cold, void or vitality, chosen with a feat)
- sylph (air, new one)
Fauns and gremlins can be fun.
Where on Golarion are Gathlains???
| Crystal Caves Mystic |
I hope Polymorph gets a clarification/boost, maybe with a Shifter archetype too.
It does seem like the book to have something like this! I personally never use Untamed Druid like they were "intended" but more for spying/infiltrating. I typically just order explorer the untamed order into my other druids. Druids are spellcasters first and polymorph takes that away from them. Would be nice to have a shifter class or archetype that was martial. Something different than the Animal Instinct Barbarian that's limited to one animal.
| TheTownsend |
Nymphs are kinda easy to predict:
- dryad (wood)
- hesperid (light)
- lampad (earth)
- naiad (water)
- oceanid (water)
- hora (fire, cold, void or vitality, chosen with a feat)
- sylph (air, new one)
"Sylph" is already taken by the Air Geniekin, I'm afraid, as is "Oread" which would normally be mountain nymphs (the Geniekin are half named after Paracelsus' categorization of elementals, but "Gnome" and "Salamander" were taken by other things). "Aurae" would probably be the name for air nymphs, though the singular "Aura" would be a little tricky to differentiate from rules terminology.
"Nereids," (sea nymphs) at least premaster, were for some reason identified as seperate non-nymph fae, I'd be happy to see those rolled into the category, though I'll there's some redundancy for character creation's sake with two amphibious Heritages. "Thriae" were also a thing in 1e, divine servants of Calistria, though the mythological ones aren't really distinct from other Naiads except they kept bees. And then Oceanids are weird because, though 1e associated them (understandaby) with Oceans, they were mythologically tied to "The Ocean" which was a river that encircled the world.
Look, if you're coming to Mythology hoping for clear cladistics, you're going to be disappointed.
There are also some more specific ones that aren't as easy to roll into better-known categories, like Epimelides, which protect herds of animals and interestingly seem to be male presenting; Hyades, which bring rain; and the Pleiades, which didn't have a specific environmental association but were part of the hunting party of Artemis and nursed Dionysus until they got turned into a cluster of stars.
So for Heritages, I'd guess: Aurad, Dryad, Hesperid, Hora (with seasonal deliniatons), Lampad, Naiad and/or Neried/Oceanid (definitely Naiad, it's just whether the other two rolled into it or rendered seperately), and Orestiad as a Mountain Nymph with a name other than Oread.
| JiCi |
"Sylph" is already taken by the Air Geniekin, I'm afraid, as is "Oread" which would normally be mountain nymphs (the Geniekin are half named after Paracelsus' categorization of elementals, but "Gnome" and "Salamander" were taken by other things). "Aurae" would probably be the name for air nymphs, though the singular "Aura" would be a little tricky to differentiate from rules terminology.
Don't we already have an air nymph? I could have sworn we did.
You're right about the name though ^^;
So for Heritages, I'd guess: Aurad, Dryad, Hesperid, Hora (with seasonal deliniatons), Lampad, Naiad and/or Neried/Oceanid (definitely Naiad, it's just whether the other two rolled into it or rendered seperately), and Orestiad as a Mountain Nymph with a name other than Oread.
Lampad and Orestiad could be folded, one for underground and the other for mountain. Hora could grant basic seasonal abilities, and a lineage feat could make you specialized in one season.
Point is that we should get all Nymph variations as heritages, including wind.