Well, the tendriculous is from Bestiary 2, so it's kind of a hard fit in Bestiary 1 Box...
I realize that it may sound silly to many posters here, but if I purchase:
(1) The Bestiary Box
(2) The supplemental RotRL Pawn set
I expect to have a complete set of pawns for my campaign, with the exception that of course I'm not expecting 12 goblin pawns or 32 ogre pawns; one or two of each is fine, and I can use counters to represent the rest. I didn't mind at all that the entire Graul family (Mammy excepted) were represented by a single image.
So I'm just saying that finding 3 'missing' pawns in one encounter (the Graul Homestead) was disappointing. It would be nice to have something on the Product page that says, "For the full set, you will need pawns from the Bestiary Box, Bestiary Box 2, and Bestiary Box 3." Which would at least warn me before the morning of my game that I'm missing some figures. (Yeah, sometimes I'm a last-minute sort of guy when it comes to having the figures ready.)
Generally speaking, loving this set! Best way to run RotRL on a budget. A couple small complaints that would prevent me from giving it 5 stars:
1) No Rune Giants? Really? These are iconic Pathfinder mobs, tied to this AP, and with artwork of them strewn all through the different hardcover books. Why are there no Rune Giant cardboard pawns? They are centerpiece villians in several fights in the AP. Please tell me it isn't just to try & get me to buy the $40 Rune Giant plastic mini..... There are a few other glaring omissions (Sheriff Hemlock & some other key Sandpoint people, etc), but nothing that leaves a gaping hole in future fights like the missing Rune Giants.
2) No bases? I was already planning to get the Bestiary Box, but if I wasn't I'd be really torqued at the lack of pieces required to actually use these pawns.
Other than that, fantastic pawn collection. I've just started running RotRL for 2 different groups simultaneously & they are loving it.
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Addressing those in reverse order:
2) No bases? I was already planning to get the Bestiary Box, but if I wasn't I'd be really torqued at the lack of pieces required to actually use these pawns.
Note that even if we *had* included bases, you'd still be missing piles of basic monsters from the Bestiary Box. You applauded us for making this the "best way to run RotRL on a budget," and one thing we did to achieve that goal is leave out redundancies from the Bestiary Box, in terms of both tokens *and* bases. If we'd designed it as a standalone product, it would need many more token sheets, a pile of bases, and a box, and it would have to cost a whole lot more.
1) No Rune Giants? Really?
They're Gargantuan, and we haven't come up with a token solution we like for anything larger than Huge. A 1/16"-thick token looks really anemic on a 4" diameter base. Even if you do a set of interlocking tokens (imagine an "X" shape for the overhead view) to make them 3D-esque, they're still a bit unsatisfying... and two four-inch tokens would also take up most of a token sheet, meaning they'd add a lot of cost to the product.
But even if we *did* have a good solution, adding 4"-round bases to this product (because there aren't any in the Bestiary Box) would necessitate putting *this* product in a box, and again, the price would go sky-high.
Why are they colored diffrently?
Do you mean the numbers on the pawns? It helps clarify which figure is being referenced on the table. Or did you mean something else?
The pawns do have the names on them, but the plastic bases from the Bestiary Box cover up the names.
On the internet I have found 2 different Box Arts for this Set.
http://paizo.com/image/product/catalog/PZO/PZO1003_500.jpeg
and
http://www.fantasywelt.de/images/product_images/popup_images/15643_0.jpgDo you know if there are 2 different versions of the this pawn-collection?
The picture of the second one suggests that the pawns don't have any text on them (if you look closely on the picture in comparison to the other one).
This would be preferable to me since it makes them more versatile and doesn't spoiler names of characters/monsters or anything.
Can someone help me with this?
Please note that you will need the plastic bases to use with this. The intention is to use the bases from the Bestiary Box.
Additionally, this set will not include pawns where they can be found in the Bestiary Box in sufficient quantity. Even then, this will not be a complete coverage of all the NPCs (there is another thread somewhere on that), but it will cover the bulk of the NPCs.
If you are in Europe, the shipping for the Bestiary Box from the USA is expensive. You can find it from Fanasty Welt here.
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We've sold out of the first print run of this set. Orders are now being fulfilled with the second print run, which is in stock now.
The pawns themselves have not changed, though the cover wrapper now has the Pathfinder Pawns logo instead of the Pathfinder RPG logo. It also has a new ISBN, product code, and price.
I'm upset that the pawns aren't as extensive as the paper minis. I spent over $500 on minis and bought the pawns to fill in gaps where and encounter didn't have a mini. It was an excellent solution. But shortly down the road I realized that the pawn set too has gaps. Now I find myself deciding if I should spend even more money on a set cheap paper minis because I need a bunyip and a tentamort
I think because she is tiny and the Pawns only cover sizes small -> huge.
Is her name on the list of pawns in the box on the back?
Man I wished I had checked the discussion before purchasing - no bases make it almost unusable for my first session (arrived day-of).
Browsing through, and I don't know if this has been addressed, but there seems to be some significant names mising- Tangletooth, the Bunyip... Elyrium??? Elyrium could have taken the place of one goblin easily...
Man I wished I had checked the discussion before purchasing - no bases make it almost unusable for my first session (arrived day-of).
Browsing through, and I don't know if this has been addressed, but there seems to be some significant names mising- Tangletooth, the Bunyip... Elyrium??? Elyrium could have taken the place of one goblin easily...
This set is meant as an addition to the Bestiary Box, although Bestiary Boxes might more accurate. (I.e. the Bunyip is listed in Bestiary 2, and is correspondingly in the Bestiary 2 Box.) You should take a look at this thread.
I am wondering about one of the pawn selections why create all the Ratswarms and not Erylium a main villain of the first book and she has cool art but no pawn. Why is this?
Ratswams are the common filler small pawn on all sets.
Like succubi, i have about 15 of each.
Does anyone know if these will ever be coming back into stock?
I can't seem to find anyone who stocks them that will ship to Australia for a reasonable price
Hey DanSixx, unfortunately, there are no current plans for reprinting the Rise of the Runelords Pawn Collection.
This set is still available on the secondary market. Try to snap it up before the price skyrockets.
The price has most definitely skyrocketed. These things definitely need a reprint! I have friends who are just starting Pathfinder, and I tell them to get into Rise of the Runelords, and then BOOM: no Rise pawns and no Bestiary 1 pawns!
The pawn sets for the various adventure paths are just investment into the game's future! I never want to think that I might not be able to play an AP because the pawns are sold out. In fact, I think you need to go back and make pawn sets for the earlier APs that didn't have them - especially important ones like Jade Regent.
Can't you just get set up with a print on demand model for something like this? We pay 50% more, but never have to worry about not having the pawns we need?
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I would not expect any AP pawns to be reprinted, just like APs themselves aren't reprinted. When they're gone they're gone. Paizo's model considers the APs "disposable" in that regard, not something to perpetually keep in print, which makes sense when you consider that their entire company was set up on the back of selling *new* APs. If people start just being happy with the APs that already exist, that hampers sales for new product. There will always be new and fresh APs that will have all books and pawns in print, so if you really *need* to have pawns and can't play an AP that doesn't have them available, you should probably start looking at some of the in-print APs.
Bestiaries, though, I fully expect them to be reprinted in perpetuity, both the rulebook and the pawns.
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I would not expect any AP pawns to be reprinted, just like APs themselves aren't reprinted. When they're gone they're gone. Paizo's model considers the APs "disposable" in that regard, not something to perpetually keep in print, which makes sense when you consider that their entire company was set up on the back of selling *new* APs. If people start just being happy with the APs that already exist, that hampers sales for new product. There will always be new and fresh APs that will have all books and pawns in print, so if you really *need* to have pawns and can't play an AP that doesn't have them available, you should probably start looking at some of the in-print APs.
Bestiaries, though, I fully expect them to be reprinted in perpetuity, both the rulebook and the pawns.
I think Rise might be an exception.
It's got a hardcover anthology, and it's the iconic adventure path.
The percentage of people who choose, or are recommended, RotRL as their first AP is probably far beyond Giantslayer or Iron Gods.
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The price has most definitely skyrocketed. These things definitely need a reprint! I have friends who are just starting Pathfinder, and I tell them to get into Rise of the Runelords, and then BOOM: no Rise pawns and no Bestiary 1 pawns!
The pawn sets for the various adventure paths are just investment into the game's future! I never want to think that I might not be able to play an AP because the pawns are sold out. In fact, I think you need to go back and make pawn sets for the earlier APs that didn't have them - especially important ones like Jade Regent.
Can't you just get set up with a print on demand model for something like this? We pay 50% more, but never have to worry about not having the pawns we need?
Most of the stuff in Runelords is basic. The Bestiary Pawn Box is constantly reprinted, so there's no reason not to pick up one when it's available. GMs can fill in some of the NPCs with miniatures from the various Pathfinder Battles lines, so it's not impossible to run it without the bells and whistles.
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The price has most definitely skyrocketed. These things definitely need a reprint! I have friends who are just starting Pathfinder, and I tell them to get into Rise of the Runelords, and then BOOM: no Rise pawns and no Bestiary 1 pawns!...
The Bestiary Box reprint is due to arrive in the next couple of weeks.
Can't you just get set up with a print on demand model for something like this?
If you know of a place that can do high-quality printing on thick board with die-cuts for a reasonable price, we'd consider it.
Here's another vote for a reprint. I was considering purchase of the bound complete adventure path but held off once I saw the pawn set was no longer available. Given that this path ties in to the Beginner Box and is easily one of the most popular paths, I hope you can find a way to justify reprint of this set!
And another vote. I'm currently running a RotRL game using Fantasy Grounds, but would like to be able to run it tabletop style.
Giantslayer is the same genre.
With the Return of the Runelords AP announced. Will this pawn set get another printing? I want to run all three Ap's. The Ap pawns make life so much easier.
I'm so happy I managed to grab these a few months back. even then it was hard to find for a reasonable price.
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Also curious, with this AP getting a new hardcover release - will pawns be getting a third run? (they got a second run).
Just discovered the pawns. Working on a full collection. Loving them, just 2-3 sets are hard to find.
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These pawns were produced in conjunction with the Hardcover release 6 years ago.
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I am another that would like to see a reprint on these. Second hand on amazon people are trying to pawn(pun intended) these off for $700+.
I just personally got into running modules as I have always been a homebrew guy. But I got a set of the RotRL ogl from a friend for free and want to buy the hardcover anniversary book but without the pawns I feel like it is a waste.
The minis are still available. Just pick up what specifics you need and fill in the rest from the Bestiary and NPC Codex Box respectively.
With the second edition coming out, I wouldn't be surprised to see the hardback of Rise of the Runelords updated for the new edition. A reprint of the pawn set would most likely accompany it. The pawns and face cards for this adventure have been sold out for some time, so a reprint for the new edition would make sense.
I am another that would like to see a reprint on these. Second hand on amazon people are trying to pawn(pun intended) these off for $700+.
I just personally got into running modules as I have always been a homebrew guy. But I got a set of the RotRL ogl from a friend for free and want to buy the hardcover anniversary book but without the pawns I feel like it is a waste.
You can find the Ameiko miniature on the secondary market quite easily. Aside from Tsuto (who is also easy to find) this adventure mostly uses basic creatures.
So grab what you need for the first couple of books and get going. The Bestiary Box will have most of the basic monsters you need anyway.
Then that's why you'll never run the game, rather than making it happen.
I wouldn't phrase it so aggressively, but I would say that if the AP sounds like something you'd love to run, don't let missing out on a few AP-specific pawns dampen your enthusiasm. Honestly, many of the unique NPC pawns are only used for a single encounter. Although they're cool, they're probably not going to substantially increase or decrease you and your players' enjoyment of the game.
I wouldn't phrase it so aggressively, but I would say that if the AP sounds like something you'd love to run, don't let missing out on a few AP-specific pawns dampen your enthusiasm. Honestly, many of the unique NPC pawns are only used for a single encounter. Although they're cool, they're probably not going to substantially increase or decrease you and your players' enjoyment of the game.
Agreed, I'm one of the lucky ones that managed to nab one of the last ones. And many times I just end up using whatever.
It won't change your player's fun.