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I'm thinking of having one of my villains have an ioun stone that grants Combat Reflexes. The intention being that my players will get to keep it later. The villain is a 6th level warpriest, the players will be level 4 when they're expected to defeat her.
Aura moderate ??? (I really don't know what aura it might have); CL 14thSlot none; Price: 12,000 gp; Weight —.
This ioun stone is deep red with the facets revealing a murky blackness as the stone turns.
This stone grants the wearer Combat Reflexes as a bonus feat.
(no cracked/flawed)If slotted in a wayfinder: Once per day, when an opponent provokes an attack of opportunity from the wearer, the wearer may make another attack of opportunity against the opponent. This is an exception for not normally being allowed to make more than one attack for a given opportunity.
The only similar ioun stone is the opalescent white pyramid. It grants a weapon proficiency, CL 12 to make, and costs 10,000. So I just increased those numbers slightly as this one, in my opinion, is better.
I honestly don't expect my players to ever try and slot it into a wayfinder, but if they do I thought this was a cool ability.
Thoughts?
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That's a good idea. I hadn't considered how similar it was to the Fortuitous ability. It could be an "always on Fortuitous" rather than a once per day. Or it could still be just a once per day Fortuitous. I'll have to think about it. I'll probably give it some kind of attunement period so it only works with one of the wearer's weapons.
I considered adding something along the lines of "it doesn't stack with stuff that does something similar" (worded more officially, of course). But I figured since it's not a published item and just an item for my players where I'm the arbiter, I'd just tell them that's how it works if it ever came up.
Once per round, not day.
It probably works well with an Order of he Whip (Villain Codex) Cavalier, too.
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If your ok with it not being an ioun stone a +1 training spiked gauntlet is 8301gp. Otherwise could lower the price a little bit and call it an ioun stone
Edit: Training enchant: +1 cost. Gives the wielder access to a single combat feat decided at time of crafting so long as the wielder otherwise qualifies for the feat
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There are 3 stones that grant a feat, the opalescent pyramid you mentioned; the scarlet and green cabochon, which grants Endurance; and the dark blue rhomboid, which grants Alertness. All cost 10,000. So it seems that the cost of a feat for an ioun stone is 10,000 gp.
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If your ok with it not being an ioun stone a +1 training spiked gauntlet is 8301gp. Otherwise could lower the price a little bit and call it an ioun stone
Edit: Training enchant: +1 cost. Gives the wielder access to a single combat feat decided at time of crafting so long as the wielder otherwise qualifies for the feat
Is this a published item or enchantment? Seems rather strong to me and I cannot locate it.
Is this a published item or enchantment? Seems rather strong to me and I cannot locate it.If your ok with it not being an ioun stone a +1 training spiked gauntlet is 8301gp. Otherwise could lower the price a little bit and call it an ioun stone
Edit: Training enchant: +1 cost. Gives the wielder access to a single combat feat decided at time of crafting so long as the wielder otherwise qualifies for the feat
Inner Sea Intrigue. Limited by that the feats do not qualify as prequisits and they are a flat +bonus to grant a combat feat limiting their use greatly
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Inner Sea Intrigue. Limited by that the feats do not qualify as prequisits and they are a flat +bonus to grant a combat feat limiting their use greatlyIs this a published item or enchantment? Seems rather strong to me and I cannot locate it.If your ok with it not being an ioun stone a +1 training spiked gauntlet is 8301gp. Otherwise could lower the price a little bit and call it an ioun stone
Edit: Training enchant: +1 cost. Gives the wielder access to a single combat feat decided at time of crafting so long as the wielder otherwise qualifies for the feat
Brand new stuff. Interesting. I predict many +1 training spiked gauntlets, cestii, shield spikes and armour spikes in our futures.
Brand new stuff. Interesting. I predict many +1 training spiked gauntlets, cestii, shield spikes and armour spikes in our futures.Inner Sea Intrigue. Limited by that the feats do not qualify as prequisits and they are a flat +bonus to grant a combat feat limiting their use greatlyIs this a published item or enchantment? Seems rather strong to me and I cannot locate it.If your ok with it not being an ioun stone a +1 training spiked gauntlet is 8301gp. Otherwise could lower the price a little bit and call it an ioun stone
Edit: Training enchant: +1 cost. Gives the wielder access to a single combat feat decided at time of crafting so long as the wielder otherwise qualifies for the feat
Note that Training is not PFS legal.
Brand new stuff. Interesting. I predict many +1 training spiked gauntlets, cestii, shield spikes and armour spikes in our futures.Inner Sea Intrigue. Limited by that the feats do not qualify as prequisits and they are a flat +bonus to grant a combat feat limiting their use greatlyIs this a published item or enchantment? Seems rather strong to me and I cannot locate it.If your ok with it not being an ioun stone a +1 training spiked gauntlet is 8301gp. Otherwise could lower the price a little bit and call it an ioun stone
Edit: Training enchant: +1 cost. Gives the wielder access to a single combat feat decided at time of crafting so long as the wielder otherwise qualifies for the feat
Aside from it not being PFS legal, can you have something like +1 training spiked gauntlet(s) equipped and still get the benefit of the ability along with wielding a two handed weapon like a great sword. I read up on the ability in Inner Sea Intrigue and in the description it said a training weapon grants one combat feat to the wielder as long as the weapon is drawn and in hand. So the question is would a spiked gauntlet be considered drawn and in hand when also wielding a two handed weapon like a great sword. And do feats like power attack and combat reflexes qualify as usable feats for this +1 ability.
Aside from it not being PFS legal, can you have something like +1 training spiked gauntlet(s) equipped and still get the benefit of the ability along with wielding a two handed weapon like a great sword. I read up on the ability in Inner Sea Intrigue and in the description it said a training weapon grants one combat feat to the wielder as long as the weapon is drawn and in hand. So the question is would a spiked gauntlet be considered drawn and in hand when also wielding a two handed weapon like a great sword. And do feats like power attack and combat reflexes qualify as usable feats for this +1 ability.Brand new stuff. Interesting. I predict many +1 training spiked gauntlets, cestii, shield spikes and armour spikes in our futures.Inner Sea Intrigue. Limited by that the feats do not qualify as prequisits and they are a flat +bonus to grant a combat feat limiting their use greatlyIs this a published item or enchantment? Seems rather strong to me and I cannot locate it.If your ok with it not being an ioun stone a +1 training spiked gauntlet is 8301gp. Otherwise could lower the price a little bit and call it an ioun stone
Edit: Training enchant: +1 cost. Gives the wielder access to a single combat feat decided at time of crafting so long as the wielder otherwise qualifies for the feat
Debatable.... I've seen arguements from the defending/guardian enchant and there is no RAW definition of wielded. In other words ask a DM or if you want a rules debate start a thread on the rules section
Debatable.... I've seen arguements from the defending/guardian enchant and there is no RAW definition of wielded. In other words ask a DM or if you want a rules debate start a thread on the rules sectionAside from it not being PFS legal, can you have something like +1 training spiked gauntlet(s) equipped and still get the benefit of the ability along with wielding a two handed weapon like a great sword. I read up on the ability in Inner Sea Intrigue and in the description it said a training weapon grants one combat feat to the wielder as long as the weapon is drawn and in hand. So the question is would a spiked gauntlet be considered drawn and in hand when also wielding a two handed weapon like a great sword. And do feats like power attack and combat reflexes qualify as usable feats for this +1 ability.Brand new stuff. Interesting. I predict many +1 training spiked gauntlets, cestii, shield spikes and armour spikes in our futures.Inner Sea Intrigue. Limited by that the feats do not qualify as prequisits and they are a flat +bonus to grant a combat feat limiting their use greatlyIs this a published item or enchantment? Seems rather strong to me and I cannot locate it.If your ok with it not being an ioun stone a +1 training spiked gauntlet is 8301gp. Otherwise could lower the price a little bit and call it an ioun stone
Edit: Training enchant: +1 cost. Gives the wielder access to a single combat feat decided at time of crafting so long as the wielder otherwise qualifies for the feat
OK, I came to the same conclusion just wanted to make sure, but can power attack and combat reflexes qualify as feats to be chosen for the training ability. One of your comments earlier made me want to make sure I was reading the description of the ability right.
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There is one in one of the high level PFS scenarios that can grant any one feat .
Its resonant power is to make Knowledge (arcana) a class skill.The scenario has it priced at 30000, with a CL of 12.
Take from that what you will.
That is a very special item acquired in a special way. For calculating cost, being able to choose any feat is a big advantage.
I'm also unclear with that stone if you can pick a different feat every time you activate it. But there are... reasons you wouldn't activate it more than once.
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Debatable.... I've seen arguements from the defending/guardian enchant and there is no RAW definition of wielded. In other words ask a DM or if you want a rules debate start a thread on the rules section
Except Training has nothing to do with 'wielded'. Rather, the requirement is "drawn and in hand". That seems unambiguous for shield/armor spikes... they would not (normally) be "in hand" and thus would not provide the benefit. Gauntlets and cestii, being worn 'on' the hands, are likely to see more debate though.
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Specifically so it doesn't massively increase the power of Combat Reflexes.How would making it once per day at full bab instead of once a round at bab -5 massively increase the power of Combat Reflexes?
If someone could answer this question instead of other stuff not related to the topic that'd be very helpful.
If someone could answer this question instead of other stuff not related to the topic that'd be very helpful.Specifically so it doesn't massively increase the power of Combat Reflexes.How would making it once per day at full bab instead of once a round at bab -5 massively increase the power of Combat Reflexes?
I can't explain what Ozy's meant, but I can tell you that 12,000 for Combat Reflexes is high enough. I'd even settle for 10,000 as that seems to be the price of a non-slotted feat.
The resonant powers from wayfinders do not have an extra cost, probably because you're already paying extra for the unslotted Ioun Stones. So as long as your resonant power isn't completely off the charts it shouldn't raise the market price of the Ioun Stone.
An once per day extra attack on one AoO isn't gamebreaking, so I'd just let it stay on 10,000 and call it a day.
Back in 3.X, a slotless feat was priced at 10,000 + 5,000 for each prereq included. All Ioun Stones are CL12 and slotless.
You can use the "random" power under Resonant Powers Method 2.
The Fortuitous enchant is once per round, and I will be looking into it for my AoO build reach cleric.
/cevah