long term create water usage is actually just a great way to drown the planet... it's not like it'll evaporate into space.Actually ...
This water disappears after 1 day if not consumed.LINK.
That means if we do use it to power turbines etc all the created water simply disappears back to wherever it came from. And the water we ARE drinking wouldn't be nearly as much as you think. The earth does pick up meteors & things all the time & they don't seem to have much impact on it's mass.
If the World-Wound scenario is a thing, there's probably a lot more excess mass coming through in the form of rampaging demons.
And if we beat back the demons we can just use the world wound as a sewage dump.
got to piss eventually. plants breathe out water.
also... is processing it into hydrogen and oxygen consumption of the water?
Technically, from a strictly "useful" standpoint, create water is superior (infinite "free" power, elimination of death by thirst)...Actually Create Water would be more about stopping the spread of disease. In third world countries diarrhea is a major concern. The best way to treat it is to get rest & drink plenty of water, but if the only source of water contains bacteria that are causing the diarrhea then you're never going to get better & pretty soon you die of dehydration.
Even if only one in a Million people was granted divine casting abilities there would still be over seven thousand people with access to this orison.
Imagine a disaster relief group where one person on staff had the ability to use create water. Even as a level 1 cleric they can create 2 gallons of water per round (6 seconds). That's 20 gallons per minute. That's 1200 gallons in an hour (or 4542 Liters). According to a very brief google search, the average adult needs to drink about half a gallon of water per day. That means one person can create enough drinking water for 2400 people in only an hour (That's seriously way better than I thought it would be ... maybe someone should check my facts/maths).
EDIT: Oh and yes I agree Prestidigitation would be amazing, but I think it would be more personal. Unless everyone can use it cheaply and easily I don't see it having the same far-reaching impact.
In a lot of places, Purify Food and Drink would be better. Stops disease just as well and gets you more per casting.
Doesn't help in the deserts, but if it's just about contaminated water...
Ooh good catch. Didn't think of that one. Doesn't let you bring your own water, but if they have their own water-source 8 gallons per round is better than 2 gallons per round (equals enough drinking water for 9600 people for one day, and it only takes 1 hour).
Also those are the numbers for a level 1 cleric. At level 20...
quoting this one because it has the nubmers
so earth has 365,750,000,000,000,000,000 gallons of water or 365.75 quintillion gallons.
at a rate of 1200 gallons per hour, it would take 304791666666666666.66 man hours to do this, or 34793569254185.69 years. but that's with a single person.
if 7 billion people all did this constantly we could duplicate earths water in 43541666.66 hours or 4970.5 years.
And the water we ARE drinking wouldn't be nearly as much as you think.
so yeah probably.
As far as divine magic serving as evidence of the divine... Don't forget you can be a cleric of a concept or an ideal. A particularly fervent atheistic rationalist could still use divine magic powered by belief in logic and reason.For that matter, how about someone who fervently believes in the ideal of a non existent deity - could their belief still power THEM?
already mentioned this earlier, that communist revolutionary brandishing his hammer and sickle just got sick powers.
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Geez, people really have low opinion of Earth :D Lots of apocalyptic predictions
BTW, I wouldn't consider Gate best example since it IS written by Japanese nationalist from what I remember <_<
Anyway, depends. Everyone who gains spellcasting abilities, do they start at level 1? :p Will messengers for each variety of Christianity come down to say "Okay, seriously, what part of peaceful religion is hard to understand?" (I don't think other religions than Abrahamic ones had holy war or "One true god!" monotheism thing going on, so I don't think they would mind much if all religions are real)
Geez, people really have low opinion of Earth :D Lots of apocalyptic predictions
BTW, I wouldn't consider Gate best example since it IS written by Japanese nationalist from what I remember <_<
Anyway, depends. Everyone who gains spellcasting abilities, do they start at level 1? :p Will messengers for each variety of Christianity come down to say "Okay, seriously, what part of peaceful religion is hard to understand?" (I don't think other religions than Abrahamic ones had holy war or "One true god!" monotheism thing going on, so I don't think they would mind much if all religions are real)
i'm not even being remotely off base when i say GATE was made to be a slow jerk for the national defense force.
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Heck teleport would be The end of the world by itself practically since the delivery system is a big hangup for nuclear arms. Just teleport the bomb someplace and bad things happen. Hmm I guess a teleport ward would have to be put into play real quick.
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Intercontinental balístitic missiles are a thing too. We can probably hit the arctic worldwound from the United States.funny thing about ICBMs... hitting the poles is hard... not that we couldn't do it, but our current missiles probably wouldn't do a great job.
if you're wondering why? well the earth rotates, so if you lift off from the surface you have a huge amount of lateral speed, we use this to sling the missiles at the target(or burn against the roation a bit and let the target rotate under you). instead to get to a pole, you;d have to do a full burn against the rotation of the earth at some point, this is true even if we have the missile start orbiting earth and make course corrections from there.
missiles don't fly through the atmosphere the whole way... if they did man we would have no problems getting to the moon and back.
The military corrected for this decades ago. Most of the doomsday scenarios involving a first strike nuclear attack involve Russia or the US firing our missiles over the north pole at each other. Modern ballistic missiles achieve low earth orbit and so they don't need to spend fuel constantly flying.
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Anyway, depends. Everyone who gains spellcasting abilities, do they start at level 1? :p Will messengers for each variety of Christianity come down to say "Okay, seriously, what part of peaceful religion is hard to understand?" (I don't think other religions than Abrahamic ones had holy war or "One true god!" monotheism thing going on, so I don't think they would mind much if all religions are real)
I don't think you read the old testament
which reads more as "you're all chosen by me, so be awesome and don't murder each other, but kill the ever loving s%*% out of anyone who tries to mess with you".
which they did for a very long time.
though he was may more chill, like that line "worship none before me" is probably more best translated as, you can worship other people, but you worship me first. he had no problems with you giving offerings to other gods, which was just a fact of life in the middle east.
also, i don't mean to get religious in here, but the stories in the books are kinda awesome in like a weird super hero sense, and sometimes just funny like my favorite passage:
2 Kings 2:23-25
23 Then he went up from there to Bethel; and as he was going up by the way, young lads came out from the city and mocked him and said to him, “Go up, you baldhead; go up, you baldhead!” 24 When he looked behind him and saw them, he cursed them in the name of the LORD. Then two female bears came out of the woods and tore up forty-two lads of their number. 25 And he went from there to Mount Carmel, and from there he returned to Samaria.
so yeah, some guy was called baldy and so he sicked 2 bears to kill a ton of people. bible stories are great.
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FORTY-TWO just seems excessive to me.
I always thought this was one of those roman Zeus/Jupiter hospitality stories (hospitality was serious business) that got assimilated.
The military corrected for this decades ago. Most of the doomsday scenarios involving a first strike nuclear attack involve Russia or the US firing our missiles over the north pole at each other. Modern ballistic missiles achieve low earth orbit and so they don't need to spend fuel constantly flying.Intercontinental balístitic missiles are a thing too. We can probably hit the arctic worldwound from the United States.funny thing about ICBMs... hitting the poles is hard... not that we couldn't do it, but our current missiles probably wouldn't do a great job.
if you're wondering why? well the earth rotates, so if you lift off from the surface you have a huge amount of lateral speed, we use this to sling the missiles at the target(or burn against the roation a bit and let the target rotate under you). instead to get to a pole, you;d have to do a full burn against the rotation of the earth at some point, this is true even if we have the missile start orbiting earth and make course corrections from there.
missiles don't fly through the atmosphere the whole way... if they did man we would have no problems getting to the moon and back.
so, we're still using decade old missiles, and it's still more efficient to NOT fire directly over the poles (which we wouldn't) unless it happened to be the target and launch site happened to have an intersection through the pole after adjusting for travel time of the earth, which is about 7.5 deg. to be clear, when firing in this way to almost never want your latitude to be higher than either the target or launch site as you can use the earth's momentum to save fuel.
regardless, American missiles at least wouldn't be flying to their target and would MIRV and they WOULD have propellant, this is not for course correction however, and simply to make it a harder target.
American missiles DO NOT reach LEO or else they've never come down. They only achieve a Ballistic or sub-orbital trajectory.this means they break atmosphere but never have an orbital trajectory, which requires slightly higher speeds than what they're designed for.
maybe you're thinking of Russian ICBMs which i don't know much about.
I've spent way to much time in kerbal space program to be wrong about this. though thinking about it, they probably would try to use the extra fuel to get over the caps because this means you can't stop the ICBMs with missiles fired from cruisers deigned to take out ICBMs in this way.
you have got to be ex-military bandw2. also in world with magic I don't think we need missiles (see above post)
you have got to be ex-military bandw2. also in world with magic I don't think we need missiles (see above post)
no, just WAY to much time in kerbal space program...
i looked up what worked to make better deigns. though this was mostly the American and Russian space programs, which we still use a lot of the designs for today.
most modern day launch vehicles are Russian designs for instance. I can't make most of them in kerbal though because they have angled exhaust vectors off of most of their solid fuel boosters.
you have got to be ex-military bandw2. also in world with magic I don't think we need missiles (see above post)
teleporting might not end well since you have to
1. teleport there personally
2. it has to be personal because you have to be about 1km in the air for an effective blast radius(NO REASOJN YOU SHOULD NUKE A BUNKER)
3. teleport back and I think there's spell failure chance if you cast while falling. if not, then you better hope you teleport away before it goes off.
anyway, i'm like fairly sure the U.S. would rather carpet bomb the hole, than nuke it..
i wish more information on ICBM tests was public...
long term create water usage is actually just a great way to drown the planet... it's not like it'll evaporate into space.
... aaaaaaaactually it vanish- ah, I was ninja'd. Stupid sleep. Always getting in the way of making a point!
actually... this would be an amazing way to power nations with free energy. This could lead to the post-scarcity society. you create water, then turn it into hydrogen and oxygen, you can then use fission to create any material up to iron on the periodic table.
not to mention gravity fed turbines breaks the law of thermodynamics if possible.
Actually, I was just thinking lots and lots of
FORTY-TWO just seems excessive to me.
I always thought this was one of those roman Zeus/Jupiter hospitality stories (hospitality was serious business) that got assimilated.
... just to be clear it was 42 people, instead of 42 bears - it was only two bears.
Technically, from a strictly "useful" standpoint, create water is superior (infinite "free" power, elimination of death by thirst)...Actually Create Water would be more about stopping the spread of disease. In third world countries diarrhea is a major concern. The best way to treat it is to get rest & drink plenty of water, but if the only source of water contains bacteria that are causing the diarrhea then you're never going to get better & pretty soon you die of dehydration.
Even if only one in a Million people was granted divine casting abilities there would still be over seven thousand people with access to this orison.
Imagine a disaster relief group where one person on staff had the ability to use create water. Even as a level 1 cleric they can create 2 gallons of water per round (6 seconds). That's 20 gallons per minute. That's 1200 gallons in an hour (or 4542 Liters). According to a very brief google search, the average adult needs to drink about half a gallon of water per day. That means one person can create enough drinking water for 2400 people in only an hour (That's seriously way better than I thought it would be ... maybe someone should check my facts/maths).
EDIT: Oh and yes I agree Prestidigitation would be amazing, but I think it would be more personal. Unless everyone can use it cheaply and easily I don't see it having the same far-reaching impact.
Mostly, I'm actually not talking about a cleric: I'm talking about an at-will magic item.
Make it CL 1* with at will or continuous (someone else work the math and practicality specifics) over minor turbines. Literally make it rain (per the spell ability).
This what I mean. Heck, create a magic trap - create water and prestidigitation combined. It's, like, about 1,250 gold for a single item or 500 gold each. That's a lot of money... but not really. Lay some limitations on it for lowered expense, if you like, but, ultimately, that can easily revolutionize an area.
While higher level spells could be more effective for various reasons, they're also going to be more expensive and harder to come by. That's why I focused on the cantrips.
The ability to use traps or other limitless local magic items means that even personal things (like prestidigitation become effectively free to the general public.
And, for the record, I am sincere about the eventual mandate of prestidigitation as required-by-law v. comparing its lack to inhumane treatment. I fully expect that any society that emerges alive will more or less put a tattoo (or embedded ioun stone or something) - at the society's expense** - that grants prestidigitation. The oldest or cheapest models would likely be (1/day) for a 50 gold-cost of creation or so (), while the higher-end stuff will be more rare.
But eventually... it's going to be mandatory that all people have it at-will. It does too many minor quality-of-life things to refuse it.
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Now, the question is...
Is this magic 'wibbley wobbley magic stuff' or is it an energy source with clear definitions ?
Would 'magic rules lawyering' become a profession?
Would thaumaturges be referred to as 'arcane engineers'?
Would colleges carry courses on 'Xenobiology?'
Would the legacy coders (the people who *write* the game system) have admin privileges?
What happens with Wish? Who's the GM that adjudicates it?
Someone up-thread mentioned Open Source and summoning certain Great Old Ones -- that's actually the premise of a series of books and a game called 'The Laundry'.
There are a lot of questions about translation from PF to real world, that's for sure!
Sort of unrelated: I wonder if sentient creatures will generally be called "Sophonts" from now on?
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Can you change the worldstate by hacking the PRD?
Alternatively, is it an 'evolving' world?
That is: Every time a fluff, crunch, or other book comes out does it get *added*? Is it a 'one-time' sort of deal, a 'snapshot' at the given time this sort of thing went into place?
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There are a lot of questions about translation from PF to real world, that's for sure!
Sort of unrelated: I wonder if sentient creatures will generally be called "Sophonts" from now on?
I like to use 'sophonts' as a general term for thinking beings in any setting where there is enough diversity of thinkypeeps.
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also... is processing it into hydrogen and oxygen consumption of the water?
I dunno, also thinking about it, why would "consuming" the water change what happens to it? Weird.
And the water we ARE drinking wouldn't be nearly as much as you think.so yeah probably.
Yeah people are a lot smaller than you think. The Russians built a giant drill to see what would happen if they drilled through the earth's crust ... so far all they've done is broken an "unbreakable" drill.
Heck teleport would be The end of the world by itself practically since the delivery system is a big hangup for nuclear arms.
Teleport has a range of 100 miles per caster level. Even with a 20th level caster that's only 2000 miles. I'm pretty sure we can do better than that already.
According to THIS RANDOM WEBSITE I CLICKED ON the earth is 7,926 miles wide at the equator (7,898 miles pole to pole), more than enough that we can't travel through it. It's 24,874 miles around at the equator (24,860 pole to pole). You could probably be a bit more efficient because you could go through a mountain rather than over it (or through Europe rather than over it for example) but I doubt that'd net you more than about a 10% bonus in distance traveled.
STUFF ABOUT CREATE WATERMostly, I'm actually not talking about a cleric: I'm talking about an at-will magic item.
You mean like a DECANTER OF ENDLESS WATER?
Remember the first rule of making custom magic items is to look for something similar & price accordingly. That means it'll probably be a bit more expensive than you think.
Having said that, it's a perpetual motion machine - Sooooo... yeah they'd probably be up and running in a matter of weeks in every first world country (and within a couple of years in even the least developed places in the world). Also this one would be more of a problem for the world because the water doesn't disappear, and since it's not powered by a person it can be running 24 hours a day. It would probably take a long time (like, 1000 years) for this to have any noticeable effect, but it would be the new Global Warming (Global Watering?).
Seriously if people really want to see what would happen, take a look at WONDEROUS ITEMS:
HANDY HAVERSACK (Let's be honest, we all want one for realz)
AN ACTUAL USE FOR AN ARTS DEGREE
And many more ...
Then there's cursed items:
Girdle of Opposite Gender would probably be in high demand...
Actually, I know all about the decanter' - I'm not talking about that at all.
I'm just talking about a CL 1st at-will create water: that's a very different thing from what the decanter' does - the latter has a higher caster level, three different settings, and direct combat application (including requiring strength checks and dealing damage), and creates both fresh and salt water, both of which have no "it vanishes later" clause.
I'm just talking about filling a big tub and letting gravity pull water down from there, and letting it vanish at the end of a day. Very inexpensive, lots of energy, and extremely "clean" - to the point of violating thermodynamics because the stuff doing the pull-down effect kind of doesn't exist.
EDIT: for further clarification
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So we can transport relatively heavy items 2,000 miles instantaneously? That's news to me.
Anyway, since people might not remember, Greater Teleport is unlimited range.
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Is the error chance on teleport worth the speed when we have so many other ways of getting things somewhere?
It'd probably be used like transporters were used *initially* in Star Trek ie, *EMERGENCIES ONLY*.
STUFF ABOUT CREATE WATER
Mostly, I'm actually not talking about a cleric: I'm talking about an at-will magic item.
You mean like a DECANTER OF ENDLESS WATER?
Remember the first rule of making custom magic items is to look for something similar & price accordingly. That means it'll probably be a bit more expensive than you think.
Having said that, it's a perpetual motion machine - Sooooo... yeah they'd probably be up and running in a matter of weeks in every first world country (and within a couple of years in even the least developed places in the world). Also this one would be more of a problem for the world because the water doesn't disappear, and since it's not powered by a person it can be running 24 hours a day. It would probably take a long time (like, 1000 years) for this to have any noticeable effect, but it would be the new Global Warming (Global Watering?).
It's not a perfect solution, but greater teleport could be used as a kind of global "time-extender" if the decanter' effect was used. Simply put it on some sort of incredibly strong construct (possibly with some sort of strength-augmentation device <choose one> and a really big tub. Have one caster who's gone to Mars that can teleport back to earth.
Then, when needed, Venus. Then eventually places like Jupiter or Saturn or whatever. (Space platforms and constructs can be used to make this work.)
That one gets mad bank for saving the world.
Of course, maybe you could do something to make some sort of magical Dyson Swarm from the excess water...
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Divine classes would have to actually adhere to religious tenets to get spells and... whoops! we have several religions that follow the same god but only one of those is actually going to get spells (Sorry Christians, turns out the Jews were right...)
And here I thought you were referring to Welcome to Hell.
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And here I thought you were referring to Welcome to Hell.
Divine classes would have to actually adhere to religious tenets to get spells and... whoops! we have several religions that follow the same god but only one of those is actually going to get spells (Sorry Christians, turns out the Jews were right...)
honestly? the exact reference was to Rowan Atkinson.
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Yeah i knew it was 42 people Just saying killing 42 people is a bit excessive for one person calling you bald. wasn't bears one of the forms that Zeus took too? I remember bulls and geese and showers made of gold...
Hmm when clerics who can talk directly to divine beings come about imagine the drastic change to the religious landscape. Especially if all deities get a say. A lot of people will be freaking out except maybe the Hindus who will be like see told you so.
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Earlier, in Leviticus 26, the law notes that sending wild beasts against them is one of the things that might happen for disobedience. It is an especially bad idea to mess with a genuine Prophet.
So basically, there's a whole lot more to it then revenge for an insult of baldness. XD Stuff from the Bible is often like that. However! I don't want to get TOO deep into that here, since I'm sure the mods would prefer we stay on-topic.
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Meanwhile, for having monsters and such here in the real world... honestly, I'd take modern weaponry over most monsters in the bestiary any day. XD
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^That one! ;D
(Though, actually, I don't think modern weapons would definitively fail before a few creatures, but given that the Bestiary exists as a book, quite a number of people watching the news will quickly realize what's happening and contact the government with that information. It would then be an easy matter to demonstrate parallels, and start working on engaging the fail-safes the internet has mastered.)
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^That one! ;D
(Though, actually, I don't think modern weapons would definitively fail before a few creatures, but given that the Bestiary exists as a book, quite a number of people watching the news will quickly realize what's happening and contact the government with that information. It would then be an easy matter to demonstrate parallels, and start working on engaging the fail-safes the internet has mastered.)
pathfinder sells would skyrocket
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Minmaxers would be favored Government employees.
"So you're saying we can use ANY diamond for this as long as we sell it for 25,000 golden coins first? And if we just 'buy' a bunch of them by moving the money back in forth in quick succession..."
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Devils secretly running things seems like it would be less widespread than rakshasas secretly running things. The former need to be called up with spells, while the latter are native outsiders. Throw on a combination of at-will mind-reading, at-will shapeshifting, being bulletproof to non-blessed weapons to prevent simple assassinations (DR 15 sounds pretty near bulletproof), and a sizable number of enchantments per day, and I think they've got a solid lead. On the other hand, I suppose devils have more drive, and if mages are common enough, bargains for power will provide more inroads.
The need for spells to get Devils here is a temporary problem -- the Rakshasas might get a head start, but the Devils know better how to make deals, and it wouldn't be too long before the Devils get a silent equivalent of the Worldwound open, or more likely probably a lot of silent and invisible little Worldwounds spread over a large region, likely concealed within various institutions (think of Cheliax, but more advanced). Also remember that if you nuke Devils, they're probably fine as long as they don't take a hit that is so close that the blast itself kills them purely from the force and flying debris -- Rakshasas don't have that advantage.
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With respect to religions, you would probably get each saying that all the others are going to Hell (except for whoever they can't say that about due to political expedience of the moment), and each eager and able to send the others there. I've got this vision of Angels and/or their allied divine spellcasters equipped with a spell to reveal the Angels of other religions as Demons . . . the thing is that it is possible for both groups of enemy Angels in a conflict to succeed with this spell . . . .
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Angels V Angels that has got to suck. I mean even the movie they made based on that sucked.
Angels V Angels that has got to suck. I mean even the movie they made based on that sucked.
You're saying The Prophecy sucked? Just want to check what you're saying there, as I think it was one of Stoltz, Walken AND Mortensen's best performances.
I've been thinking a lot about the Tippyverse aspects - Shadows with exponential proliferation, the very good point about LOS teleport (letting them move 47km/min, or 2820 km/hr) and the various rorts of conjurations and at will powers.
If we assume Pathfinder represents reality X in the same way modern roleplaying games with similar granularity represent our reality, then there'd be long term implications they don't bother to stat out as they are irrelevant for a combat.
Shadows can walk around in daylight. In theory any shadow in Golarion can cause the shadowpocalypse at noon. On the other hand they are pretty much always portrayed as avoiding bright light - especially sunlight. This might be pyschological - in which case, no rules, but likely still a limiting factor. This would make the fact most modern rooms are at a bright illumination most of the time a serious impediment.
If demons truly could teleport continuously, why would so many of them have alternate means of movement? On the other hand they are taking a momentary shortcut through the astral, and there are predators there. Might be a case of too much activity calls in the predators, and eventually you jump out but not jump in.
Similarly the 'infinfite loop' spells might not be violating Entropy - which is a sentient creature in Golarion - but instead moving things around. Drawing matter from the sun to create water, for instance. For all practical purposes this would be infinite, but when that infinity was truly put to the test (Decanter of endless water-fuelled interstellar rockets, for instance) could fail in interesting ways.
I think the movie being referred to was Legion. Featuring Paul Bettany at his wooden best as an archangel come to earth to defend humanity from being purged by angels possessing human bodies.
A terrible movie.
yeah scythia knows what i'm talking about. definitely legion.
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Anyway, depends. Everyone who gains spellcasting abilities, do they start at level 1? :p Will messengers for each variety of Christianity come down to say "Okay, seriously, what part of peaceful religion is hard to understand?" (I don't think other religions than Abrahamic ones had holy war or "One true god!" monotheism thing going on, so I don't think they would mind much if all religions are real)I don't think you read the old testament
which reads more as "you're all chosen by me, so be awesome and don't murder each other, but kill the ever loving s##$ out of anyone who tries to mess with you".
And I think you've forgotten the part where Christians consider New Testament to be more up to date part of the bible that they are supposed to follow :P
Then again, most Christians don't know their own religion, at least considering how many seem to literally want to kill in name of Jesus.
I have so many ideas for fanfiction that I can't get started on any of them.
Gangs of Cardiff takes place right after Torchwood is blown up. The riftstorm becomes a permanent weather feature. It's become a cautionary example of what horrors await when government betrays the people too many times.
A gang of teanagers start posing as Torchwood, loot the tunnels, and claim the waterfront.
Silurians led by the rift phantom(he seems human but semi insubstantial) have come through a rift and setup their own rift manipulator. They have turned the mall into a sort of terrarium for their comfort, but business continues and has become inter planetary.
Renegade Unit death squads have appeared in in other areas, trying to eradicate all aliens.
The once normal sewers have become the domain of Weevils and other aliens. Also the slum proper has been fortified against other gangs.
The same thing can happen with magic if the veil is shredded in one city.
Another idea I had was The Magic Returns. Various artifacts and creatures start showing up and training humans in magical character classes. A spell book found buried in Salem(the metal lock clasp set off a metal detector). A Copper dragon snuck through a gate in a volcano and recruited some youngsters to help widen the gate. Some kid's grandmother returns as a newly minted angel to teach them clerical magic. Some misguided terrorist goofs a ritual and instead of destroying Washington DC, opens a rift to Golarion as well as heaven, hell, and the first world. If one of the presidents children comes out of the broom closet as an actual witch, suppression becomes just plain wrong.
Anyway, depends. Everyone who gains spellcasting abilities, do they start at level 1? :p Will messengers for each variety of Christianity come down to say "Okay, seriously, what part of peaceful religion is hard to understand?" (I don't think other religions than Abrahamic ones had holy war or "One true god!" monotheism thing going on, so I don't think they would mind much if all religions are real)I don't think you read the old testament
which reads more as "you're all chosen by me, so be awesome and don't murder each other, but kill the ever loving s##$ out of anyone who tries to mess with you".
And I think you've forgotten the part where Christians consider New Testament to be more up to date part of the bible that they are supposed to follow :P
Then again, most Christians don't know their own religion, at least considering how many seem to literally want to kill in name of Jesus.
Thoes clerics have fallen and their loss of power and suddenly detecting as evil will be their undoing. Unfortunately, this is in the game you propose, not IRL.
Intercontinental balístitic missiles are a thing too. We can probably hit the arctic worldwound from the United States.funny thing about ICBMs... hitting the poles is hard... not that we couldn't do it, but our current missiles probably wouldn't do a great job.
if you're wondering why? well the earth rotates, so if you lift off from the surface you have a huge amount of lateral speed, we use this to sling the missiles at the target(or burn against the roation a bit and let the target rotate under you). instead to get to a pole, you;d have to do a full burn against the rotation of the earth at some point, this is true even if we have the missile start orbiting earth and make course corrections from there.
missiles don't fly through the atmosphere the whole way... if they did man we would have no problems getting to the moon and back.
Even if they are at the equator when launched that's only 1000 mph--the missile has a lot more delta-v than that.
Note, furthermore, that in a all-out nuclear exchange with Russia everyone's missiles basically go over the north pole. If they simply were fired short they would hit it, no special problems. The problem is that our land-based ICBMs simply don't have the range to hit the South Pole, although perhaps a quick dismounting of two of the warheads on a Minuteman could give it the needed range.
A boomer certainly could head south and launch at about the equator with one warhead on a Trident.
so... launching at the equator would require not only the delta v to get into a ballistic trajectory height, they need to spend ~7000 km/h getting into suborbital speeds, then they would need to make a burn at the normal of their orbit (flying missiles sideways is really hard to do correctly, requiring fuel or electricity if you're using reaction wheels or torque systems, which generally want solar panels since batteries are heavy, which means more fuel) and to burn ~1500 km/h in delta v if you did this step in the gravity turn.
while they have the delta V i'm just saying it's hard, it's not like just smacking stuff near the equator.
in a nuclear exchange with Russia, we shoot over the poles because this denies cruisers from shooting them down before they reach their target, even then we wrap around near the pole not right over.
looked up a minuteman 3, it's delta v appears to be probably around 30 or so thousand as it eventually reaches a top speed of 24100 km/h before impact. It appears the rocket actually boosts into the ground before mirving.
edit: wait i got my km/s and km/h mixed up in there.
minutemen have just about 5/6 orbital velocity(which is ~28000km/h), they definitely don't have fuel to make course corrections, which is almost required to hit a pole from the equator(you have to shoot backwards and then when you breach significant atmosphere burn north/south, while anywhere else you can just aim right at it basically).
this is why geosynchronous orbits are the most expensive.
White Wolf's Old World of Darkness had a lot of good ideas for this thread, but unfortunately some pointy-haired boss decided to terminate and reboot everything for the 3rd Edition of their stuff.