Extendable Staff?


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Is there any enchantment that can cause a weapon to switch between having reach and not having reach? I've got a player who wants a custom enchantment to his quarterstaff to basically turn it into the Ruyi Jingu Bang, and I'm not sure if there's a precedent for such a weapon in the books or not.


I came here thinking Goku's Power Pole (from Dragon Ball) and I turned out to be right! (Sun Wukong was a huge inspiration for Goku and the Saiyan race.)

I believe there is something that does this, but I can't think of the name off the top of my head. I will look around see if I can find it.


Not an enchantment, but Spear Dancing Style let's you use a polearm as either a reach weapon or a double weapon.

That would pretty much accomplish what he wants.


This is the first thing I found which at least sets a precedent.

So, a boarding pike normally has reach (and brace properties) and the special magical quality doubles its reach, but prevents it from threatening anything except at the 20ft range (meaning can't make AoO against but could still attack normally, I think). You could do the same basic thing with a quarterstaff. Normally no reach, action to add reach (10ft) and doesn't threaten at 5ft range (which would be normal for a reach weapon, unlike the boarding pike of repelling which loses a little extra threat range).

bigrig107 wrote:

Not an enchantment, but Spear Dancing Style let's you use a polearm as either a reach weapon or a double weapon.

That would pretty much accomplish what he wants.

I don't think that feats thematically because the idea is for it to be an innate property of the item.

However, for the ultimate build it isn't a bad idea to have an extendable quarterstaff and take Spear Dancing style to have extra extra reach.

If the player decides to take Spear Dancing Style, Spiral, and Reach I would let them activate the reach part of their feat and the reach effect of their weapon together as a single swift action, since they are using a normally weaker weapon (quartstaff) and putting a bunch of feats and effort into it.


Now I want to make Vanara fighter with a reflavored boarding pike of repelling and the Spear Dancing style line of feats. But only if I can find something to reflavor to be the Flying Nimbus (magic carpet?).


Archpaladin Zousha wrote:
Is there any enchantment that can cause a weapon to switch between having reach and not having reach? I've got a player who wants a custom enchantment to his quarterstaff to basically turn it into the Ruyi Jingu Bang, and I'm not sure if there's a precedent for such a weapon in the books or not.

There is the Fighter's Fork.


So two items that establish using a swift action to extend reach, I think that's plenty of precedent.


Archpaladin Zousha wrote:
Is there any enchantment that can cause a weapon to switch between having reach and not having reach? I've got a player who wants a custom enchantment to his quarterstaff to basically turn it into the Ruyi Jingu Bang, and I'm not sure if there's a precedent for such a weapon in the books or not.

Well... If this is for a home game, you could use these amazing house-rules to make one such weapon. Just build a staff and give it the "extendable" modification!

While you're at it, make it a Monk weapon too! :)


The Transformative weapon property can mimic it. 'Oh, I need reach ... well, my trusty greatsword is now a bardiche. Yay!' (Basically, for about 10,000 gold, your weapon can become another of the same size -- light, one-handed, or two-handed, and size counts too if you really want. Greatswords become longspears to lend to a friend in trouble. Or that fauchard becomes an earthbreaker for when bludgeoning is key.)


Check out the weapon masters handbook. Not only does it have rules for building weapons with a reach/no-reach swift action ability, it even sample builds one for you.

Search for gnome flick mace


Lemmy Homebrew Corp wrote:
Archpaladin Zousha wrote:
Is there any enchantment that can cause a weapon to switch between having reach and not having reach? I've got a player who wants a custom enchantment to his quarterstaff to basically turn it into the Ruyi Jingu Bang, and I'm not sure if there's a precedent for such a weapon in the books or not.

Well... If this is for a home game, you could use these amazing house-rules to make one such weapon. Just build a staff and give it the "extendable" modification!

While you're at it, make it a Monk weapon too! :)

Awesome

For Lemmy:
Can't seem to direct message you wanted to ask permission before I posted this link to a bleach D20 system board I am on as a great way to do alternate form Zanpaktou.


Qaianna wrote:
The Transformative weapon property can mimic it. 'Oh, I need reach ... well, my trusty greatsword is now a bardiche. Yay!' (Basically, for about 10,000 gold, your weapon can become another of the same size -- light, one-handed, or two-handed, and size counts too if you really want. Greatswords become longspears to lend to a friend in trouble. Or that fauchard becomes an earthbreaker for when bludgeoning is key.)

I think the Greater Transformative property is worth the extra 5,000 gp. Being able to turn your dagger into any weapon, even a greatsword or a bow, is cool. Alternatively the Bladed Belt can turn into any slashing or piercing weapon regardless of size.

But all three of those options require a standard action to change, and I think the OP was looking for something quicker.


Talonhawke wrote:
Can't seem to direct message you wanted to ask permission before I posted this link to a bleach D20 system board I am on as a great way to do alternate form Zanpaktou.

Go ahead! Have a blast! :)

If possible, share your experience, thoughts and criticism about it on the feedback threads as well.


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From here :)

My Self wrote:
If you push the right button, it might extend!

/cevah


Cevah wrote:

From here :)

My Self wrote:
If you push the right button, it might extend!
/cevah

Funny and also useful. I forgot that the spear option of a Rod of Lordly might could be shortened for a shortspear and lengthened to be a longspear or even a lance.

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