Alignment for Pornography


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This subject came up on another thread, and i thought it should be posted here as it should make its way into future versions of the rules. What alignment is porn?

Good aligned porn shows consenting adults enjoying sex.

Evil aligned porn is exploitative, cruel or involves children.

Lawful porn conforms to one sexual taste.

Chaotic porn is more eclectic.

Which means good and neutral porn would be PFS legal!

Grand Lodge

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It depends highly on what is considered pornographic.

This varies from culture to culture.

Sczarni

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This discussion would probably be better had over in the Gamer Life forum...

Scarab Sages

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Nefreet wrote:
This discussion would probably be better had over in the Gamer Life forum...

Absolutely not! I need to clarify whether Ron Jeremy gets a bonus to his Perform (Porn) check from his Charisma, or a penalty! It's CONFUSING!!!

Also, do two creatures have to share the same square to do it? What about 3 people? What about 7? Do penalties from squeezing apply to F@&& checks?


Would you be able to get circumstance bonus to your Perform check if you succeed on an acrobatics check?

Remember that charisma is not beauty! Ron has a huge, umm, charisma even though he is small and ugly (IMHO).

This book may offer some answers to your questions Joynt. Also check out this!

I don't think it is necessary to share squares, multiple creatures can take part in a grapple and they do not have to share squares.


Why would porn have an alignment at all?


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yes, no, no, yes, no idea. (not necessarily in that order)


Hythlodeus wrote:
yes, no, no, yes, no idea. (not necessarily in that order)

Ha ha. I am so gonna use that one:)


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*Mutters something about F.A.T.A.L.*

OK, I guess it depends on the game world agreed to by your DM and group.

Because, in the real world, shocked Victorian archaeologists would routinely find all sorts of porn, in the form of sculptures, mosaics, frescoes, decorations on pottery, and more in temples, churches, markets, government buildings, and so on. It seems that at times in human history, "Lawful Normal" porn was an every-day thing for some cultures, and included gay porn, porn involving satyrs and fauns and other mythological beings, porn involving animals, and even the occasional naughty tentacles porn (no, really), and any of the endless varieties of more "vanilla" stuff you can think of. Certainly, it's taken for granted now that prostitution in various forms was a normal part of some ancient religions, and perhaps the paintings and mosaics were advertisements for what visitors to these cities could expect to find at the local temples.

It's probably not an area I'd have ever considered exploring in any of my games, and really not one I'm interested in exploring now, but, if that's where your group's going, then I guess your imagination is the limit, and you need not be bound by today's mores and taboos.

Just please: respect each others' boundaries, keep it legal, and don't do anything that will end up on national news and in Jack Chick comics as yet another example of the creepy things role players get up to....


Joynt Jezebel wrote:


This subject came up on another thread, and i thought it should be posted here as it should make its way into future versions of the rules. What alignment is porn?

I´d treat it as a specific subset of art - sculpture, painting, etc. It may occasionally be an indicator of the alignment of the artist, especially due to its function (as it tends to glorify or espouce values or situations, rather than warn against them).

Now, if you want to check what skills bards can emulate with perform (sexual), then I´d really discuss that with the DM first :) .

Scarab Sages

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The Shaman wrote:

Now, if you want to check what skills bards can emulate with perform (sexual), then I´d really discuss that with the DM first :) .

Acrobatics? Handle Animal? Knowledge (Local)? Use Magic Device?

OOH, I KNOW! Disable Device! "I stick it in there, and it breaks!"


I'm Hiding In Your Closet wrote:
The Shaman wrote:

Now, if you want to check what skills bards can emulate with perform (sexual), then I´d really discuss that with the DM first :) .

Acrobatics? Handle Animal? Knowledge (Local)? Use Magic Device?

OOH, I KNOW! Disable Device! "I stick it in there, and it breaks!"

Which "it" breaks depends on whether you succeed on your roll?


Joynt Jezebel wrote:


What alignment is porn?

The same alignment as all forms of art. Without being magic and/or intelligent books are usually neutral, swords are neutral, paintings are neutral. The same holds true for porn.

Porn doesn't hurt people, people hurt people.


yronimos wrote:
Just please: respect each others' boundaries, keep it legal, and don't do anything that will end up on national news and in Jack Chick comics as yet another example of the creepy things role players get up to....

This is a mouthful! After 16 years of table tops, I've never dared to step foot into a convention EVER, and have never been LARPing. However, I get questions almost constantly about those 2 things. Like all groups, we get stereotyped by the more eccentric of our kind.

(not saying that either LARPing or Cons are bad, just saying I'd rather play 4th edition then go to either :p~~~~~~ )


Porn itself is neutral by deafult, as Just a Guess said. If you violate local community standards regarding content, you add the [Chaotic] descriptor; by strictly adhering to local standards for content you can add the [Lawful] descriptor. If you involve children, you add the [Evil] descriptor.

I don't think you can add the [Good] descriptor to porn. (You can have good porn, but not Good porn, if you see what I mean.)


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That would be gender-sensitive, environmental-friendly, politically-aware porn, wouldn't it? With plot...


yronimos wrote:
and even the occasional naughty tentacles porn (no, really)

That is called Hentai and is sufficiently neutral evil to radiate a strong aura.

And I,m Hiding in Your Closet you are a depraved pervert. I like you.

Perhaps we can get some stats for Ron Jeremy in Bestiary 5.


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The hairy meatball was good in Orgazmo.


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I'm just interested in how my twink build can get some additional modifiers...Circum-Size bonus, anyone?

Sczarni

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More like a penalty.


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What alignment is chopping wood? What alignment is making soup? What alignment is putting your left shoe on before your right shoe.

There are some acts, such as murder, which are universally (excepting by sociopaths) accepted as wrong. Like wood-chopping, porn is not one of them.

I believe the best answer to your question is: mu.


What kind of Question is this!


Sissyl wrote:
That would be gender-sensitive, environmental-friendly, politically-aware porn, wouldn't it? With plot...

ah, the one were you fast forward to the good stuff


Damon Griffin wrote:
I don't think you can add the [Good] descriptor to porn. (You can have good porn, but not Good porn, if you see what I mean.)

Eh, I disagree. Sexual intimacy as a catalyst to love, redemption etc or even as a therapeutic measure is not that strange a concept.


The real question is, are these sorts of threads Evil or Good?

Spoiler:
You're wrong.


Naturally, it depends on Position.

Missionary Style would be Lawful Good. Anything Anal is probably going to be at least Chaotic. And then there's the really weird stuff that is obviously Evil.

You can do the math from there.


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Kobold Cleaver wrote:
The real question is, are these sorts of threads Evil or Good?

Chaotic Neutral of course.

Kaouse wrote:

Naturally, it depends on Position.

Missionary Style would be Lawful Good. Anything Anal is probably going to be at least Chaotic. And then there's the really weird stuff that is obviously Evil.

You can do the math from there.

Cowgirl and Reverse Cowgirl for neutral good?

... I kind of want to see this chart now.

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