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Freehold DM wrote:
Kryzbyn wrote:

100% loved this movie.

The CGI wasn't anywhere near as bad as described up thread.

I'm agreeing with Kryzbyn.

WITH KRYZBYN!

shakes fist

Mostly Agree:
Leia was that bad. Tarkin was fine. Not going to win any Oscars with the FX for photo-real faces in this movie though.
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Maybe it was the limited exposure in the second case, but I found it the other way around.

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John Napier 698 wrote:

I know that it's a couple hours early, but I'm tired.

So I'd like to wish each and every one of you a very Merry Christmas.

Merry Christmas !!!

And HAPPY LIFE DAY!

For those interested the link is to Forbes Magazine's full video of the Star Wars Holiday Special.

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Michael Giacchino - The Imperial Suite (Rogue One)

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For all you gun nuts and vid gamers, the E - 22 is Canon once again.


HAPPY LIFE DAY!!


Freehold DM wrote:
Albatoonoe wrote:
So, Baze and Chirrut were totally low-key homosexual, right? I'm not the only one that thought that?
highly unlikely. But not impossible. I know at least one fan who would be delighted to interpret this in this way. Most just view them as friends.

Relationship Discussed Here

With citation of two official sources (the director and JJ Abrams).

There is also some other interesting topics discussed briefly. Obviously this would be spoilery if you haven't seen the movie.

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baron arem heshvaun wrote:


John Napier 698 wrote:

I know that it's a couple hours early, but I'm tired.

So I'd like to wish each and every one of you a very Merry Christmas.

Merry Christmas !!!

And HAPPY LIFE DAY!

For those interested the link is to Forbes Magazine's full video of the Star Wars Holiday Special.

Oh my lord... horrible...

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Sir Peter Cushing, on big feet, then explains what a 'grand moth' is. I love this man's style. I hope he and best friend Sir Christopher Lee are enjoying a well aged drink together somewhere.

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Quark Blast wrote:
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To be fair each director only said a version of 'its certainly plausible and possible.' Neither confirmed they were lovers.

JJ Abrams was actually quoted that from a much earlier 2016 interview and out of context, the qestion asked was not about these characters in particular but about same sex couples in Star Wars in general.

Fans can take away from it what makes them happiest, as they should. I personally don't see the two characters' relationship in those terms.

I very much like the idea of them as brother in arms who are also dear friends.

That's as strong a bond as any out there.

Looper, the source in your post, has also gotten a few Star Wars facts wrong in the past, particularly in the OT.

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A Jedi reminisces about a Grand Moff. I always liked this story.


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Imperial Advisor Arem Heshvaun wrote:
Rysky wrote:
baron arem heshvaun wrote:

To those about to take office next year, take note: Here is a politician and a patriot who has the conviction to back up his campaign promises.

Just to point out, going under a 1% unemployment rate is usually bad.

So is second guessing The Imperial Ministry of Re-education and Propagana, citizen.

Officials of the ISB are en route to your location, for your safety and well being, please comply to their sanctioned manhandling.

Are they cute?

*police Arrives at ryskys* Cop 1: "uh turns out a succubi lives here we may have made a mistake..." Cop 2: "well at least it will be a fun mistake" Cop 1: "yeah who needs levels anyways"

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Vidmaster7 wrote:
Rysky wrote:
Imperial Advisor Arem Heshvaun wrote:
Rysky wrote:
baron arem heshvaun wrote:

To those about to take office next year, take note: Here is a politician and a patriot who has the conviction to back up his campaign promises.

Just to point out, going under a 1% unemployment rate is usually bad.

So is second guessing The Imperial Ministry of Re-education and Propagana, citizen.

Officials of the ISB are en route to your location, for your safety and well being, please comply to their sanctioned manhandling.

Are they cute?
*police Arrives at ryskys* Cop 1: "uh turns out a succubi lives here we may have made a mistake..." Cop 2: "well at least it will be a fun mistake" Cop 1: "yeah who needs levels anyways"

^w^


Quark Blast wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
Albatoonoe wrote:
So, Baze and Chirrut were totally low-key homosexual, right? I'm not the only one that thought that?
highly unlikely. But not impossible. I know at least one fan who would be delighted to interpret this in this way. Most just view them as friends.

Relationship Discussed Here

With citation of two official sources (the director and JJ Abrams).

There is also some other interesting topics discussed briefly. Obviously this would be spoilery if you haven't seen the movie.

Just a heads up, IF the director actually made them the ONLY Homosexual characters in the movie, as they are Asian, it is actually an old racist and discriminatory slam against the Asian community.

I'm not going to explain it here, because it can get long. However, whenever you see movies that ONLY have Asians as being the homosexual, it is actually NOT promoting LGBT as you may think, but is a direct reference to some pretty terrible things that occurred to Asians and were done to Asians in the 1800s and stereotypes that are still promulgated about East Asians (and specifically in many instances, East Asian men) to this day.

Just be aware, by supporting things like this, you are continuing a discrimination against Asians (a backhand way of saying it) that has been going on for over a century and promulgated currently in Hollywood.

Just so you know, as most people are ignorant of this...but many Asians (especially those who were under colonial rule) are not.

If you support the KKK and racist discrimination, think as you will, but if they really are trying to shove this insult towards Asians into this film...well...they would have done better if they had actually done something to further the LGBT agenda rather than racism.

As I said, if it's Only Asians in a film that are homosexual, that is a racist attack that's a continuation of something that's been going on for over a century. It saw extensive prevalence in WWII in racist attacks against Japanese (and Chinese too) in films and media.

There is a REASON that ONLY the Asians are made homosexual in some films, and it's NOT an LGBT (unless those LGBT are also racist) focus, but rather a reference to something much darker and horrendous in the past. NOW, if there are LGBT individuals of all takes and sorts in a film, that's different, this deals with films that focus on making ONLY Asians Homosexual in them.

If this film is doing that, in addition, it's a double slam against the Buddist religion as well, which would make it two types of discrimination in one go...interestingly enough.


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GreyWolfLord wrote:
Quark Blast wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
Albatoonoe wrote:
So, Baze and Chirrut were totally low-key homosexual, right? I'm not the only one that thought that?
highly unlikely. But not impossible. I know at least one fan who would be delighted to interpret this in this way. Most just view them as friends.

Relationship Discussed Here

With citation of two official sources (the director and JJ Abrams).

There is also some other interesting topics discussed briefly. Obviously this would be spoilery if you haven't seen the movie.

Just a heads up, IF the director actually made them the ONLY Homosexual characters in the movie, as they are Asian, it is actually an old racist and discriminatory slam against the Asian community.

I'm not going to explain it here, because it can get long. However, whenever you see movies that ONLY have Asians as being the homosexual, it is actually NOT promoting LGBT as you may think, but is a direct reference to some pretty terrible things that occurred to Asians and were done to Asians in the 1800s and stereotypes that are still promulgated about East Asians (and specifically in many instances, East Asian men) to this day.

Just be aware, by supporting things like this, you are continuing a discrimination against Asians (a backhand way of saying it) that has been going on for over a century and promulgated currently in Hollywood.

Just so you know, as most people are ignorant of this...but many Asians (especially those who were under colonial rule) are not.

If you support the KKK and racist discrimination, think as you will, but if they really are trying to shove this insult towards Asians into this film...well...they would have done better if they had actually done something to further the LGBT agenda rather than racism.

As I said, if it's Only Asians in a film that are homosexual, that is a racist attack that's a continuation of something that's been going on for...

I remember you sending this to me via pm.

I see where you are coming from, but I think this would be too specific and archaic to be done out of bigotry. I don't think the people who worked on the film are old enough to hold these views. As mentioned in another thread, it would be like someone calling me a moon cricket.


It's actually in full on discrimination mode in some parts of California currently. Hollywood is actually deep in the root of it currently. Hong Kong is basically it's counter (and to be clear, Asians have no problems with homosexuality and probably are far more forward in some of it's portrayals in film, but there's a difference between how Hong Kong is doing it and how Hollywood is doing it).

We could continue it via PM...as I'd like to not bother this thread too much. I would hope it's done out of ignorance and not on purpose in this regard.

I don't think Rogue One is inferring anything like that. If it is, I'll be ignorant unless it's undeniably confirmed. I liked the movie. I would hate to have anything racist or discriminatory mixed into it.

I prefer a Star Wars world where anyone and anything is possible and all sorts of individuals are included, where you can be a woman or a white man and be homosexual, and it isn't just confined to the "minority races" and all of that.

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Honestly for once im glad their wasnt any obvious love story involved to muck up the story. If there is some subtle nod to LGBT i didnt get it and it doesnt bother me if its there. Double for the Asian slam if present. I know JJ didnt direct this but hes been pretty nonchalant in the past about offensive things in his films so who knows. /shrug


I thought Lucas was worse. <-- Not my opinion but by reputation claiming incidental racism in his films. The Trade Federation being a prime example supposedly.

I'm also in favor of the non-love story for once.

As a side note, there was a review of Moana that praised it for the same thing. Saying essentially, "Finally, a Disney Princess that doesn't need a man." Which I took to be unintentional humor as the character of Moana is like 12 years old. Not that 12 yo can't have crushes but romance really isn't a thing at that age.

Scarab Sages

Sad news: Princess Leia died today. 2016, I am ready to see you pass away :-(


M..........r...


I am very sad. :(


The threads announcing her death are proliferating, and I just keep getting sadder and sadder. :(

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Quark Blast wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
Kryzbyn wrote:

100% loved this movie.

The CGI wasn't anywhere near as bad as described up thread.

I'm agreeing with Kryzbyn.

WITH KRYZBYN!

shakes fist

** spoiler omitted **

Saw R1 again over the Holiday. This time I saw it in IMAX 3D instead of 2D. The CGI of Tarkin was less noticeable this time. I could tell it was CGI in 2D, but it looked natural in 3D.

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Princess Leia's Theme (link)

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I always tell my younger friends that no matter how I go, I want it reported that I drowned in moonlight, strangled by my own bra.

- Carrie Fisher

Please give our warm regards to Sir Peter and Sir Christopher, dear Princess.


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baron arem heshvaun wrote:


Please give our warm regards to Sir Peter and Sir Christopher, dear Princess.

... and Sir Alec!!

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Rest in peace Princess!

(2016... stop... already!)

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"baron arem heshvaun wrote:
... Charming to the last.

The Day I Met a Princess: A fan's Carrie story.

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Ok. This got me.


baron arem heshvaun wrote:
Ok. This got me.

Such a sweet tribute. :-)


I really liked it... it had a very different feel to it than all the prequels and TFA..... 7.5/10...

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Sad to hear about Carrie Fisher. 2016 is really not a good year for actors and actresses.


*sniff*

That's FOUR Star Wars cast members who've passed in the past year.

Attempting to change the subject to a less sad tone...

What would constitute enough time to pass for the Spoiler tags to be unnecessary? 2 weeks, 3 weeks, a month?

I really want to speculate more about R1 without the possibility of forgetting the Spoiler tag.

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A month is usually best for spoilers.

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The 501st Legion (Vader's Fist) vs some Alien Scum

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It's been reported that George Lucas did really like this movie. Unlike The Force Awakens which he was less enthusiastic about.

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baron arem heshvaun wrote:
It's been reported that George Lucas did really like this movie. Unlike The Force Awakens which he was less enthusiastic about.

I heard Lucas was pissy because they tossed his new trilogy idea in the trash.


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Pan wrote:
baron arem heshvaun wrote:
It's been reported that George Lucas did really like this movie. Unlike The Force Awakens which he was less enthusiastic about.
I heard Lucas was pissy because they tossed his new trilogy idea in the trash.

I shudder to think what it might have been.


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Scythia wrote:
Pan wrote:
baron arem heshvaun wrote:
It's been reported that George Lucas did really like this movie. Unlike The Force Awakens which he was less enthusiastic about.
I heard Lucas was pissy because they tossed his new trilogy idea in the trash.
I shudder to think what it might have been.

His ideas were generally good. His writing, not so much.

I, as well as a great many others, were saddened when Disney scrapped the entire EU. However, they DID bring back Thrawn, as well as some ideas. I for one wish they would bring back Mara Jade in some fashion.


baron arem heshvaun wrote:

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The 501st Legion (Vader's Fist) vs some Alien Scum

Damn! Now that's Hardcore.


With the way the Star Wars anthology movies seem to be going; I might enjoy those more than the later trilogy. Rogue One was a fantastic military science fiction film. I always felt the other Star Wars film were solid in the science fantasy/space opera genres. Rogue One felt like it really attempted to bring the military realities of the Rebellion home to the viewer. In 2018 we are going to get a young Han Solo movie, and I know there is rumors of a Bobba Fett film. I also hope the rumors of a Kenobi film pan out. At this rate, I will definitely like the anthology films more than the core trilogies.


What rumors of a Kenobi film?

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I Hope this quick reel cheers my fellow fans up.

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F. Castor wrote:
What rumors of a Kenobi film?

Ewan Mcgregor has been quite vocal about wanting to reprise the role but I don't think anything official has been given to the public.

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Imperial Communique 002017:

To My Fellow Loyal Imperial Officers and Citizens, the new year is upon us.

Some have said 2016 has been a dark time. Perhaps.

But lest we forget, it is always darkest before the dawn. Let us then take deliberate steps to insure that for these Rebels, that dawn never comes.

May your bring honour to your Emperor and Empire!

The Empire is victorious on ALL fronts!

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John Napier 698 wrote:
baron arem heshvaun wrote:

In the meantime.

The 501st Legion (Vader's Fist) vs some Alien Scum

Damn! Now that's Hardcore.

The artist has some cool pieces.


Warhawk7 wrote:
Scythia wrote:
Pan wrote:
baron arem heshvaun wrote:
It's been reported that George Lucas did really like this movie. Unlike The Force Awakens which he was less enthusiastic about.
I heard Lucas was pissy because they tossed his new trilogy idea in the trash.
I shudder to think what it might have been.

His ideas were generally good. His writing, not so much.

I, as well as a great many others, were saddened when Disney scrapped the entire EU. However, they DID bring back Thrawn, as well as some ideas. I for one wish they would bring back Mara Jade in some fashion.

Given that he managed to make Jedi seem boring, I'm not sure I can agree with you.

Perhaps his plan for the seventh movie was to focus on the rebuilding of the Jedi order, except now they wouldn't only sit down to negotiate trade disputes and watch political proceedings, they'd also use the Force to become actuaries...


Scythia wrote:
Warhawk7 wrote:
Scythia wrote:
Pan wrote:
baron arem heshvaun wrote:
It's been reported that George Lucas did really like this movie. Unlike The Force Awakens which he was less enthusiastic about.
I heard Lucas was pissy because they tossed his new trilogy idea in the trash.
I shudder to think what it might have been.

His ideas were generally good. His writing, not so much.

I, as well as a great many others, were saddened when Disney scrapped the entire EU. However, they DID bring back Thrawn, as well as some ideas. I for one wish they would bring back Mara Jade in some fashion.

Given that he managed to make Jedi seem boring, I'm not sure I can agree with you.

Perhaps his plan for the seventh movie was to focus on the rebuilding of the Jedi order, except now they wouldn't only sit down to negotiate trade disputes and watch political proceedings, they'd also use the Force to become actuaries...

Like I said, not so much good with the writing. Heck, the original was re-written and edited by his wife. We see how that turned out.

In all honesty, the only real EU character I would absolutely LOVE to become canon is Revan. He was almost in an episode of Clone Wars, which would have been amazing.


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Revan was good in KOTOR, but he was so overhyped and fanboyed over in everything since. I just wish people would forget him these days.


baron arem heshvaun wrote:
John Napier 698 wrote:
baron arem heshvaun wrote:

In the meantime.

The 501st Legion (Vader's Fist) vs some Alien Scum

Damn! Now that's Hardcore.
The artist has some cool pieces.

Quite so.


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I have to say I liked Rogue One way more than Force Awakens, and a lot of that was due to Rogue One actually feeling like something we haven't seen before. The Force Awakens felt a little too much like a retread of A New Hope to me.

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