Who is TEO at war with?


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Goblin Squad Member

Just wondering if TEO is at war with Stoneroot Glade settlement and their allies in the High Road Covenant and I somehow missed the announcement?

First, a TEO member attacks one of our members in a starter village, knowing that player was a member of Kabal - which has been sent to goblinworks to handle, a few days ago.

But then, last night, TEO takes a tower away from the Tre Company, a Stoneroot Glade company.

Just wondering if these actions are due to an overeager member of TEO or if you have decided to butt heads with us? :-)

Goblin Squad Member

No state of war exists between TEO and any other company. if you could let me know which member attacked a new player inside a settlement, I will begin working on resolving that. If you could also let me know which tower was taken and when, I'll also look into that as well.

I apologize for any friction these incidents may have caused.

Goblin Squad Member

Related (?) question: I've noticed Hammerforge's core towers seem to be up for grabs. Are they inactive or out of the NAP?

Goblin Squad Member

TEO Alexander Damocles wrote:

No state of war exists between TEO and any other company. if you could let me know which member attacked a new player inside a settlement, I will begin working on resolving that. If you could also let me know which tower was taken and when, I'll also look into that as well.

I apologize for any friction these incidents may have caused.

I wasn't the one attacked so I don't know their name but it was sent to goblinworks to handle, so we figure that is a closed thing now. It wasn't a new player who was attacked but one of our regular members trying to post recruitment notices in Marchmont.

I'm at work but if memory serves it was one of the towers held by Tre NE of Rathglen. We will take it back tonight then.

Then go on our tower taking spree against Golgotha, Calambea, Aragon ....

who are the other evil settlements or who have left the NAP? :-)

Have to figure out who they are so we can take their towers too!

Goblin Squad Member

Can anyone give a good count of how many towers are in the game, including core towers?

Goblin Squad Member

NO evil settlements have left the nap. The only 2 settlements to leave the nap are Aragon and Freevale, nether are evil, they are CN. The only 2 evil settlements are Golgotha and Hopes End, and BOTH are still in THE nap.

Goblin Squad Member

I apologize about the tower taking, one of our new players we recruited yesterday AFKed in that tower, they had no idea about the War of Towers.

On the issue of attacking people in starter settlements, can we please have a name?

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Curious as to why you just didn't contact TEO directly on this matter. Oh and Buni check your PMs. We would like a response from you about another matter.

Goblin Squad Member

did

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DUN DUN DUUUUUN


And so your foolish non-aggression pact begins to crumble into ruin, just as I always said it would.

Spoiler:
Just kidding. :P

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Gol Tigari wrote:
NO evil settlements have left the nap. The only 2 settlements to leave the nap are Aragon and Freevale, nether are evil, they are CN. The only 2 evil settlements are Golgotha and Hopes End, and BOTH are still in THE nap.

It was not very chaotic to be in the NAP in the first place.


I imagine a lot of people felt they had little choice, until they could see how EE1 shook out.

I suspect that even the chaotic worry about their survival/prosperity.

Goblin Squad Member

Now that killing players in starter settlements is officially against the rules, GoblinWorks is the appropriate entity to contact about it, not the leadership of any settlement.

Goblin Squad Member

Only those with true and pure convictions shall rule the day!

Goblin Squad Member

FMS Quietus wrote:
Curious as to why you just didn't contact TEO directly on this matter. Oh and Buni check your PMs. We would like a response from you about another matter.

But wouldn't contacting TEO directly have removed any possibility of forum drama? The piranha need something to occupy them.

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Caldeathe Baequiannia wrote:
FMS Quietus wrote:
Curious as to why you just didn't contact TEO directly on this matter. Oh and Buni check your PMs. We would like a response from you about another matter.
But wouldn't contacting TEO directly have removed any possibility of forum drama? The piranha need something to occupy them.

This forum has a way to go before it becomes the GD of PFO.

Goblin Squad Member

Woot! War! Or skirmishes. Or random ganking. Or shaking my fist in impotent rage. I need to clear out my schedule and get back on.

Goblin Squad Member

So this tower - was it a core 6?

Goblinworks Executive Founder

Capitalocracy wrote:
Now that killing players in starter settlements is officially against the rules, GoblinWorks is the appropriate entity to contact about it, not the leadership of any settlement.

I would prefer if you contacted me in addition to Goblinworks regarding inappropriate behavior of any citizen of Phaeros.

Goblin Squad Member

We were never contacted until this forum post.

As far as I can tell the tower isn't a core 6 tower.

Goblin Squad Member

(I am speaking for myself, not Stoneroot Glade)

It's not a core six. It was near Hammerforge. I know because I was harvesting in the area and got a "This hex belongs to TEO" message, but didn't notice it til later because I was in the Help channel. I think it's very possible that the entire thing was a result of confusion, since it was surrounded by Golgotha towers and in a similar PvP window.

I'm not aware of any agreement over who will control those towers, unless Hammerforge suddenly begins taking them, so I'm of the opinion there's anything here that can be construed as an act of war.

Just a no-man's-land incident in a tense region of the map. Perhaps we could all relax a little?

The Marchmont incident is a bit more irritating, but unless the victim still remembers the name of the attacker, there's not much point arguing about how it was handled. We can all learn from it, and expect that with a constant stream of new players, there will be more incidents. They should be reduced as much as possible, on both sides.


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Pathfinder Online: Gossipy Old Ladies Edition

1. Talk A Lot As You Will, I Pick A Little Free

2. Etiquettebreakers Die

3. I forget the rest.

6. THEY LEFT ANDIUS
THE LIBRARY BUILDING
BUT THEY LEFT ALL THE BOOKS TO CHEATLE

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BALLLLLLLzac.

Goblin Squad Member

LMAO

Goblin Squad Member

FMS Quietus wrote:
Curious as to why you just didn't contact TEO directly on this matter...

Its easier just to add a name to a KOS. We're not here to babysit for other settlements' members. TEO* is doing widespread recruiting and has to live with the consequences if their not vetting people before signing them up. And I don't mean that in an insulting way, its just the reality of open recruiting. WoW taught me that much.

Re: Reporting to GW, its more of a civic duty.

Edit: * or any settlement doing open recruitment

Goblinworks Executive Founder

What kind of vetting can a company do for their rank and file members that would detect that?


I assure you the member in question is a nice guy and a solid member, nothing any kind of vetting would have sorted out. You just can't expect new players to know everything about the game - he knew nothing of tower mechanics.

Goblin Squad Member

DeciusBrutus wrote:
What kind of vetting can a company do for their rank and file members that would detect that?

That's an excellent question that each company/settlement will have to decide for themselves.

Fierywind wrote:
I assure you the member in question is a nice guy and a solid member, nothing any kind of vetting would have sorted out. You just can't expect new players to know everything about the game.

I suspect we're talking about different people because any player that knows enough about the flagging system to be timing attacks to try and lure others into getting flagged can't be called new anymore. To be clear, there really is not any hard feelings. I think its actually good for the game at this point to have members in TEO that aren't necessarily in lockstep with their compatriots. When they misbehave, it gives an excuse between good aligned settlements to have some "engaging content". And its worth it to other settlements for these players to remain anonymous and in TEO so that they can cause future headaches for their leadership :D


I edited my post for clarity.

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Well, until someone gives me the name of a member that actually did this, or screen shots, or basically anything at all other than "a member of TEO attacked someone in a starter settlement," I am pretty much not going to do anything. This thread is just targeting TEO without any actual evidence. Yes, a new guy accidentally took a tower out in the middle of no where, no harm no foul, but calling a member out without any actual evidence is erroneous and debasing.

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Of all the ways that this information could have been presented, this nearly the most deliberately provocative.

That said, it is Kabal. Deliberately provocative is basically their byline. :P

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Bringslite wrote:
Can anyone give a good count of how many towers are in the game, including core towers?

327

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Kadere wrote:
That said, it is Kabal. Deliberately provocative is basically their byline. :P

lol more of a motto, I suppose. But I like the sound of it, and I'm going to steal it for my sig on GW forums.

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TEO Cheatle wrote:
Well, until someone gives me the name of a member that actually did this, or screen shots, or basically anything at all other than "a member of TEO attacked someone in a starter settlement," I am pretty much not going to do anything. This thread is just targeting TEO without any actual evidence. Yes, a new guy accidentally took a tower out in the middle of no where, no harm no foul, but calling a member out without any actual evidence is erroneous and debasing.

Welcome to the last 2 years of my PFO life.

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Kadere wrote:


That said, it is Kabal. Deliberately provocative is basically their byline. :P

Why else did we get all these things from victoria's secret.

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Gol Phyllain wrote:


Welcome to the last 2 years of my PFO life.

Cry me an abruptly half made river.

Goblin Squad Member

My thoughts exactly.

Goblin Squad Member

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<Kabal> Sunnfire wrote:
why else did we get all these things from Victoria's secret

tell me this isn't our new uniforms.

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<Kabal>vtgamergirl wrote:
<Kabal> Sunnfire wrote:
why else did we get all these things from Victoria's secret
tell me this isn't our new uniforms.

I hope not. I look terrible in lace.


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Nonsense! You are an elf, aren't you?

Goblin Squad Member

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Kobold Cleaver wrote:
Nonsense! You are an elf, aren't you?

Quoted for truth.

Grand Lodge Goblin Squad Member

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TEO Cheatle wrote:
Well, until someone gives me the name of a member that actually did this, or screen shots, or basically anything at all ...

This is a PvP game and this is PvP in a different way. These boards can be used to smear your opponent while looking great yourself using nothing more as a little bit of hyperbole.

There is still a 'war' raging for new recruits and yes - TEO surely is at was with nearly everyone else in this.

My advice: Don't try to be whiter then white. There is no way to stay clean all the time. I remember Nihimon denying the core 6 that someone from his alliance had taken.
Stuff happens and you come out better if you assume without proof that is has happened - or you might look ridiciolus afterwards.

TEO is growing - TEO takes on a lot of new players - TEO is like a big great machine. Assume that people will try to throw some sand into the workings of TEO on a constant basis.

Look at threads like these as a compliment of what TEO has achieved.

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Looking for some goblins cappable of throwing sand into the machinery of large groups - good or evil.
Just deny that is was me who incited you. I'm just harmless and never have written anything like this and you must have misinterpreted me.

Edit: Kobold Beavers also qualify and get double pay

Goblin Squad Member

Caldeathe Baequiannia wrote:
FMS Quietus wrote:
Curious as to why you just didn't contact TEO directly on this matter. Oh and Buni check your PMs. We would like a response from you about another matter.
But wouldn't contacting TEO directly have removed any possibility of forum drama? The piranha need something to occupy them.

Actually I was at work near the end of the day and juggling too many things and totally forgot that they had their own website and this was the only place I could think of contacting them. Brain fart all around!!! :-)

But after I posted it, it dawned on me that some folks would love to read the title of this and either get excited or worried. Didn't plan it that way, just happened. ;-)

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Thod wrote:

These boards can be used to smear your opponent while looking great yourself using nothing more as a little bit of hyperbole...

I remember Nihimon denying the core 6 that someone from his alliance had taken...

Q.E.D.

Goblin Squad Member

Nihimon wrote:
Q.E.D.

Don't know what that means... Google, hit me with some knowledge! :)

Urban Dictionary wrote: QED
An abbreviation of the Latin phrase "quod erat demonstrandum". It literally translates as "which was to be demonstrated", and is a formal way of ending a mathematical, logical or physical proof. It's purpose is to alert the reader that the immediately previous statement, which naturally was arrived at by an unbroken chain of logic, was the original statement that we were trying to prove.
"I refuse to prove that I exist," says God, "for proof denies faith, and without faith I am nothing."
"But," say Man, "the Babel fish is a dead giveaway, isn't it? It could not have evolved by chance. It proves you exist, and so therefore, by your own arguments, you don't. QED."
"Oh dear," says God, "I hadn't thought of that" and promply vanishes in a puff of logic." -- Douglas Adams, from "A Hitchiker's Guide to the Galaxy"

Proof that x + 3 = 0 if x = -3

x + 3 = (-3) + 3
= 0
QED

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Giorgo wrote:

Don't know what that means... Google, hit me with some knowledge! :)

Urban Dictionary wrote: QED

In this case it's reasonably accurate, but in general, I wouldn't rely on Urban Dictionary to define anything other than slang and sexual references.

Sovereign Court Goblin Squad Member

Giorgo wrote:
An abbreviation of the Latin phrase "quod erat demonstrandum". It literally translates as "which was to be demonstrated", and is a formal way of ending a mathematical, logical or physical proof.

nerdy aside::

In my experience most math profs use a small square rather than QED. Probably because they're lazy and it's even shorter than QED. Heck, we were taught "A good mathematician is lazy", meaning that if theorem can be shown to be a special case of some previously known result then you're basically done and don't have to do anything.

Physicists rarely bother with either the square or QED in my experience.

We used to joke that QED meant "Quite Easily Done", something you reserved for the trivial proofs.

Though I did have a prof who ended his proofs with lightning bolts. Cause lightning strikes and you're done ... or something? He had an odd sense of humor so I never really got it. But he definitely fell into the lazy category. He abbreviated everything eg. "continuous" was cts.

Goblin Squad Member

@Thod, if someone in TEO did something we would pay the price, we would own up to something. We aren't trying to be whiter than white, hell one of our guys AoE'd and killed someone by accident a month ago while trying to kill Gpunk. I made things right, I offered to pay for the damages, and let them kill me.

Bottom line, if you have proof, or can at least give me some information that will lead to the truth, then fair enough, we will deal with it, it is important to us to make things right. However, if you are just smearing our name all over the place with no evidence, we aren't going to feel inclined to do much about what ever someone is yapping about.

Goblin Squad Member

Atheory wrote:
Only those with true and pure convictions shall rule the day!

Isn't it interesting how quick the people of "good" settlements are to attack and claim things based on their own view of who deserves retribution? I've never done anything to TEO, but they were sure quick to help themselves to my belongings when the light from their armour distracted me and I was cut down by a knight. (OOC: Lag death from a big group showing up. Real good show of being "good guys" there.)

Edited to add: And no - when I'm surrounded by 10 thieves I don't stop and take pictures, I grab my stuff and get outta there.

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