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We were talking about how much this would take to finish and that includes polish and some iteration on existing features.

It would cost roughly 2 million dollars with an experienced team to finish the game to the point people want to play it and subs would bring in enough money to support a small team.

It would cost roughly 5 million dollars with an experienced team to finish the game to the point that a lot of original backers would feel they got what they backed.

It would cost roughly 10 million dollars with an experienced team to make this game exactly how it should have been made, with full polish, optimization, and several iteration of all game features.

So, basically we need around 2 million dollars and 15 months of game time to get the game to what they would consider open enrollment. Then they would need about 4x the current subs to continue development, and roughly 2 years after that to get to the 5 million dollar mark of development.

They really only need between 6-8k subs to continue development in earnest with a big enough team. I think we have between 1500-2000 right now.

After the Outlaw meeting, my advice is don't sale.

@Tyncale, I have a specific plan to do with the accounts if you would like to hear it.

Fair enough, but if you want to discuss it let me know, you can get a hold of me either in game, here, or on a mumble somewhere.

Interested, Tyncale, if you will send me a PM it looks like I can't send one to you.

I would say yes, but I get the feeling that others would try to come kill you. Then it would turn our PvE event into a PvP event, and that wouldn't be good for all the PFU Newbies (especially in the MS hex, lol).

Hello all,

Brighthaven would like for you all to join us in clearing the Mordent Spire! The monster hex is located NE of Brighthaven, and we will be spending all Saturday working on the hex! So please feel free to come down and join us kill off those pernicious elves!

Good Luck guys with your new focus!

Hello all,

Brighthaven is looking for companies interested in managing holdings and outposts! That includes managers, foremen, workers, haulers, ranchers, farmers, lumberjacks, miners, and those that would defend their brethren and their land. By joining Brighthaven, and becoming a sponsored company, you will reap the benefits of some of the best training the server can provide, as well as access to an unparalleled pool of resources if you wish to refine, craft, or outfit you and yours.

Brighthaven is a Neutral Good settlement focused on defending its citizens and its allies from negative fringe based PvP (Player Killing and Griefing) while striving to become a large and shining beacon for Good. Whether you wish to benefit from this protection or you love PvP and wish to assist in providing this protection, Brighthaven aims to be the home and support center for you!

Brighthaven will provide a safe harbor, a place of relative security in the wilderness areas away from Thornkeep and Fort Inevitable. In striving for excellence we will also be offering good-aligned characters the highest level of training and services available anywhere in Pathfinder Online.

If you are interested and you want to know more about Brighthaven click HERE, you can also PM me here, or ask for Cheatle, Gedi, Fierywind, or any Brighthaven Officer in world chat.

We are currently the largest and most active company in the game. Right now we are recruiting members for all play styles, but if you are interested in participating in capturing territory and managing it, look no further!

I don't agree with everything you have said here Andius, but I can agree with your last line.

We do not have a NBSI policy, I have personally talked to several people that have wandered down here, and explained the situation. We only shoot first on hostiles. Furthermore, there are several groups that have been given access to harvest or help with escalations that are not EBA.

You are missing a key point, we allow people who ask permission, and we don't shoot first, unless hostile of course.

Well considering that we have vowed to protect the university, we have gone and help cleared bothersome escalations for them, and provided them with recipes and other gear at different times, as well as supporting their staff with higher end armor.....

Newbs are going to either their new settlements or PFU, PFU is a highly concentrated place in which we can practice the betterment of the community and protection of the new players.

In general, the entire server protects new players, the community is very supportive of the university, as well as making sure new players get a chance. In this new patch, we may even be able to tell if and when someone is new, which helps the situation out so much more.

This isn't Darkfall, nor will it ever be that terrible to new players, and with a good community that supports new players making the choice to buy into the game, there is multiple support systems in place for new players to expand.

@Guurzak, what you said and what Tink said, seem to be two different statements, I agreed with one, and not the other.

Coming down and killing everyone you came across from NE Monster Hex to Phaeros was clearly breaking the armistice, to us, and not attacking towers, since every hex you killed people in were not towers that were open PvP Hexes.

@Everyone else talking about placing holdings in Gol territory.

TEO has placed small holdings in hexes that are clearly 2 hexes or more from any settlement, and in territory that has been unclaimed. We farm the escalations in the Eastern and Western sides of the map when we have time, because no one else farms them.

Now, what ever anyone on either side thinks or perceives or whatever, as a community we need to back off from fighting each other come the new patch so that we can figure out Holdings and Outposts. When they hit its going to take more than some people on the test server to actually test these things out.

That is where the miscommunication happened.

I will stop by later and talk to Phyllain.

Tink,

You did not explicitly tell me anything like that, I made it abundantly clear that we would protect EBA territory. Perhaps, there was some miscommunication there, but I walked away understanding the above.

EDIT: After reading your edit, yea, there definitely was some miscommunication. Next time we make an agreement it will have to be in writing, as to be clear, concise, and no confusion.

Excuse me?

I said that we would not defend their tower, and that we would defend the EBA territory. We were willing to let people fight each other in no mans land, or defend towers like I said, but you guys came down into EBA territory with organized PvP slaughtering everyone you came across, and attacking escalation sites. So, in response to that, we took towers too, although I realize that towers probably mean nothing to you.

We will not allow attacks in our area to go unnoticed.

I kept my word, up until you came down and started killing people in EBA territory.

Hahahaha

I found this in game, and I have no idea what it does!

The Empyrean Order

Name: The Empyrean Order
Alignment: Neutral Good
Preferred Alignments: LG/NG/CG/N
Purpose: Community betterment, protection of the weak, and promotion of justice.
Player Roles Accepted: All
Website: Link

The Empyrean Order is made up of the following sub-companies:
- Argent Crusade: Focused on wiping out Escalations and farming mobs.
- Argent Defenders: Focused on clearing escalataions affecting production/gathering/settlements.
- Argent Vanguard: Focused on PvE research, clearing escalations, dungeons, and part PvP.
- Empyrean Legion: Focused on protecting Brighthaven and the Southern Cragthorns, Anti-Pkers.
- Empyrean Wolves: Focused on scouting, skirmishing, and PvP.
- Explorer's League: Focused on Landmark searching, patrols, and escort trips.
- Phoenix Industries: Focused on refining and crafting.
- The Seraphic Commission: Focused on community events, and hospitality.
- The Golden Scales: Focused on bulk and raw resource gathering, trade, and caravans.

Please apply to one of the above companies.

Political Status -
Signatory of the Roseblood Accord
Member of the Everbloom Alliance

Ideology: The Empyrean Order believes that just because you can do something in a game, that doesn't necessarily mean you should. To that end, we want Pathfinder Online to have a community where PvP is fought at the Settlement and Nation level, while random player killers and griefers are fringe elements rather than mainstream. We have several dedicated organizations specifically in place to help battle these fringe elements.

The Empyrean Order also believes in helping new players, reaching out to the community, and generally making Pathfinder Online a better world for people to enjoy together. The Empyrean Order seeks to carve out a portion of our shared play world where all of the above are true, a place we call home, and hopefully you will too.

Who Should Join TEO?: Everyone who agrees with the above ideology and wants to be a part of an organization that puts it into action. We currently have nine sub-guilds, and if you take a look above you can see each sub-guilds focus. We are looking for the folks who are willing to stand on the front lines as well as those who are willing to work to supply and support them.

We cater to every play-style; from people wanting to be part of an elite military to pacifists; from people looking for a heavy role-play experience to those who'd prefer to avoid it; from Americans and Europeans to Australians and more. Currently our membership represents North Americans, Europeans, Asians, and Australians, you will not find a time of day where you are alone on our mumble channel.

Our Rules:
1. No killing without just cause. One of the main ways we distinguish ourselves is by only killing when we have good reason to do so. More details on what constitutes good reason will be given as we get more details on the game, but for the most part this constitutes enemies of The Empyrean Order and those who are a threat to the general public.
2. Do not make agreements you do not intend to keep. Nobody in The Empyrean order will demand you make promises or enter into contracts, but if you do, then you should honor your word.
3. Respect other members of our order, and try to respect those outside of it as well. I know this rule is very difficult and can rarely be followed perfectly, but know where to draw the line, especially in a public setting. This one will be enforced the hardest on inter-guild drama, any rivalry between members should be friendly. This does not always mean that all members are expected to think alike or see eye-to-eye all of the time or even most of the time. It does mean that these disagreements are expected to remain civil even if you have to agree to disagree.

Joining The Empyrean Order:
1. Look at the top left hand side of your screen, find the tower icon to the right of that, open it, search for one of the above companies, open and apply.
2. Join us on Mumble.
3. Register on the CotP boards.
4. Apply for CotP membership.
5. Introduce yourself in the Pathfinder Online section.
6. Join our PFO Chapter, and check out the other titles our community has to offer.

Mumble Usage: CotP has a dedicated 24/7 Mumble server. Mumble usage is a requirement for all TEO members, but a microphone is not required unless you are part of the military. This is because Mumble is where most of our conversations happen, and if you aren't in there, you really will not get integrated into the community as much as we would like. Mumble does offer text chat options and if everyone in-game is using Mumble then you can likely reply to comments on the Mumble via our in-game chat as well.

Mumble Information:
Address: 74.201.57.188
Port: 64738

@Saiph,

There was a mechanic some how turned on, there will be a pop up that asks you if you want to resurrect. I suspect this will be the case when we have other spawn points in the game and threading working. Also, there are Raise Dead, Resurrect, and True Resurrection expendables.

fair enough

Here is a solution, put some way to contact GW through the settlement UI, and you have to be part of that settlement to send a message/press the button. This will limit it being spammed, and they know exactly which person/community is using it.

It depends entirely on how they do the system and if we get a warning or not. I don't think we will have people stationed at each holding 24/7, if we don't know who is attacking, but that we are being attacked, then people might get away with 5% of the bulk goods.

We are mainly increasing our stock piles, while also preparing every single character in Brighthaven for T2+2 gear. The turn around on gear seems to be about 2-3 weeks, although when PvP takes place it cuts down that time a few days to a week. We want to be prepared for when Holdings and other things come out that will increase PvP.

@Cal, did Damis get a hold of you? I sent him your information, he can install anything you need.

Do you have an option to upgrade to 75 users for a month? You could do a short term upgrade for the time being, and then move over to a VSP later when you can find some down time to get it all setup.

I was AFK, and I think you logged out by the time I responded. I am however not KP Leadership.

Does it have to be roleplay-y?

We already worked on one of these for Brighthaven for GW, can we use the same? Or at least a shorter version.

Do you have a settlement license that Brighthaven can purchase for its gatherers?

It was midnight, a soft warm wind was blowing over the Emerald Lodge when a beautifully flamed Phoenix came into view. It flew in majestic circles around the lodge to garner the attention of its people. When Theodum exited one of the buildings the Phoenix dived towards him, dropping a large scroll off at his feet.

The Catalog

I agree he was a niche case.

Settlements will be able to remove them through permissions, that is the only way I know of that is coming any time soon.

I would have to say that the way you are playing is still very apt, and hopefully with the added game systems and population it will still be viable.

Pretty much what they said.

I suggested a course of action based on prior events leading up to Thod's response in private. There have been several events that you might not be privy to that have happened, and I personally said that I would bring them to light if it happened again.

Edit: @Tig, I specifically called him out on something he did in private, not that he has an issue with Decius, two separate things are going on here.

They have already agreed to EBA Territorial Policy, which hasn't been changed, why do they need to agree to something that hasn't been changed?

To your four questions,

#1 - Without having to be attached to a settlement a group could maintain (at a slower pace) all of the crafted goods they need, removing the need for a settlement altogether(unless NPC towns won't allow higher tier gear to be made).

#2 - Maybe, I see a lot of people roaming at the company level away from settlements. I see settlements constantly being manned by a combination of vets, newbies, and people that want to play the game at the nation/warefare level.

#3 - Maybe, there will be an influx of new players to help maintain, but then if you considered VCs attached to a settlement that hold and maintain outposts...if that isn't happening they won't be keeping their training either.

- You could have a settlement of veterans abandon their settlement once they have enough training in a system like this.

#4 - I think yes, there are a lot of people that want their independence from settlements, so ya I think your first question here will indeed happen.

I have two solutions that might help the situation, both of them function at the company level:

Forts:
If your settlement is destroyed, or your company leaves a settlement, and you have 30 days to find another settlement or lose your training you could place a Fort. You find a back up location, allocate influence for your company to create a Fort (for lack of a better term). It would act as a mini settlement with defensible walls that slowly costs more and more to maintain, but allows you to retain all of your companies training. After you can not pay the costs anymore it is despawned, you lose the holding, and that particular holding goes on a 30 day cool down.

This would allow groups more time to re-establish themselves, retake the location, so on and so forth. If rebuilding they can even focus on certain groups for the first 30 days, move those people into the settlement, and the rest use Forts until their builds are repaired.

Hamlet:
This option is for EXTREMELY focused and specialized groups. This is a holding that establishes a small Hamlet where a holding goes. This Hamlet can be tailored to a specific role or perhaps even two closely associate roles. It would provide several key buildings for training and potentially crafting. It would start out at Tier 1 training, and require more allocation over time for the training it would provide, which is up to Level 13. To make it more balanced this could also cost upkeep akin to settlement costs for this much training.

This would allow decent sizes companies, not wanting to be associated with settlements, to have their own smaller settlement that doesn't require quite as many resources as a full settlement.

You might could just have it where you get 3 medium builds and 3 small buildings worth of training. You could choose a Fighter Collage, Thieves Guild, Skirmisher, Bowyer, Weaponsmith, Armorsmith. It would be extremely niche and costly, but could create a very interesting subculture.

As a side note, I told you a got a new PC yesterday......

Holy Crap this game looks amazing with a decent video card, didn't realize there where even shadows.

Thanks Aussiedwarf!

I really like how you give a lot of information on settlements here. The only issue I seem to be having, is that its hard to click on a hex and it stay there.

@Thod,

Like I said yesterday on TS, there has been no formal vote on the matter, discussions are still going, so feel free to use Hammerfall's facilities. We aren't Evil, we are not going to attack you on sight for something like this, we aren't going to bar you from getting your stuff, we aren't going to trap you in any way. Until there is an official decision you are fine to go about your business as normal.

We are pretty clear when posting policy.

@Forencith

Actually, the "Core Six" was Bluddwolf's idea so it would be easier to count the towers people owned. I don't remember talking about sovereignty over Core Six hexes. To be honest we talked more about rules around taking core six towers than anything else.

@Bluddwolf,

I agree.

Common practice in TEO is, if you die, you have lost everything on your husk, and unless you were transporting something important its not worth going back to check. Usually if its important they wouldn't be running alone.

So far this is around the 12th incident I have heard of including someone alone and their husk. If you are transporting something important, you should have backup ALWAYS, in case of anything that may happen, like PvE/PvP incidents.

@Cloakwinter

Fair Enough, I didn't talk to you personally, I looked for your name here on the forums and couldn't find you. I then went and talked to several other people about the situation, the story is always going to be distorted, but no one was bullied, and you weren't attacked or stalked. I actually talked to a lot more people than just Decius.

The main reason I am blasting Thod is because he didn't give the situation enough time, and then forced the situation through extortion, nevermind what actually happened.

@Capital

I will be sending you a PM.

Alright,

I have to re-weigh in here.

I was sent the private messages from both sides, all I have to say is that Thod has damaged his reputation with the EBA. I will be asking the council to revoke our recognition of neutrality and revoking any rights that EL has to harvest resources in our area or using crafting facilities.

This was character assassination, as well as following through on an extortion threat. To be perfectly honest, if Thod had sent me the same message he sent to Nihimon on Saturday @6:36PM, it wouldn't have even gone this far, I would have called him in the forums for extortion, a tactic he has used before, one which I told him personally in voice that if he used against TEO or EBA again I would call him out on it.

I am not going to ask for aggression against the people of EL, but there are repercussion for extortion, and closing off our borders might get the picture across: WE DO NOT SUCCUMB TO EXTORTION.

@Thod,

I usually don't post something like this, unless its official and I have proof. Second, as a leader I can't have a knee jerk reaction and just post stuff like this on the forums. I give it time to investigate incidents like this, even if it takes days (and in one case weeks).

In diplomacy all of your hard work can be undone by a simple sentence spoken too soon. So, I try to have patience, even if I can't get in contact with someone right away.

I can say however, that Nihimon was gone a good piece yesterday, because I was looking for him too.

@Bluddwolf, I you want to do a pub hop, I am sure we can arrange that.

Alright,

I have been informed of the situation and what happened. No one was bullied, as a matter of fact it sounds like Decius tried to help the guy until he turned into a Jerk and Decius walked away from the situation. So, I am just going to walk away from another Thod propaganda piece, good job in being neutral Thod, and trying to maintain that neutrality, it really really shows.

@Thod,

You know Thod, you constantly provoke those around you, and not just those of us in the EBA. Fair enough something happened you didn't like, but you should just say it, making a roleplay post villianize the situation more than it actually is, ok propaganda, but constantly in poor taste. On top of it, I don't know how much of this is even true, or if it is true what the context is behind the situation.

Until I know more I am going to reserve judgement on the situation, other than you liking to provoke people whether in public or private, you call someone else a bully, but you say leading up to the circumstances it was the persons own fault. I will just wait to see how this develops.