Empowered magic missile question

[Quarotas]

So if you would empower magic missile how would it work because the way I see magic missile is one spell with five sources because you can pick seperate target. Empower spell cause te variables to increase by 50% so would tat increase numbe of missiles or how would that work? The reason I ask is because a player with the Orc bloodline realizes that of he can cast it with more damage dice what happens for empowered causing his arcana to increase.

On an off note is blood rag for the Orc bloodline suppose to increase spell damage or what cause that makes little sense but I'm just wondering.

[Aelryinth]

Empower Spell has no effect on the number of missiles.

It increases damage dealt by 50%. Missile count is not a random variable effect. Simply increase damage per missile, adding up all damage and rounding down to the nearest whole point per target. This means it will be more effective at single targets then scattered ones, but that's the brakes.

Also note that supposedly the damage bonus for the spell is applied to a single missile, and not to each target of the spell. however, treating magic missile like an AoE and doing the bonus damage to each target of a magic missile, (treating it like a very low power fireball, in other words), isn't going to break anything if you go that route.

==Aelryinth

[Archaeik]

Empower won't increase the number of missiles, it is not a variable. (there is no roll associated)

His arcana should apply to each die.

and did you mean Touch of Rage?

Quote:

Touch of Rage (Sp): At 1st level, you can touch a creature as a standard action, giving it a morale bonus on attack rolls, damage rolls, and Will saving throws equal to 1/2 your sorcerer level (minimum 1) for 1 round. You can use this ability a number of times per day equal to 3 + your Charisma modifier.

I suppose you could touch yourself and use a quickened spell.

RAW, I think it affects any damage roll, including spells. (but this would be once per spell, not every missile of Magic Missile)

The spell Blood Rage doesn't affect spell damage at all.

[Diego Rossi]

I think that Touch of Rage would not apply as the damage dealt by most spells is a effect of the spell, not a direct effect of an action you do. An exception would be any spell that give you a weapon like attack, like Flame blade.

I half recall a Dev comments to this tune, but finding it would be difficult. Sadly the sometime the use of colloquia terms instead of specific game terms generate this kind of problem. On the other hand a book where you use only specific terms for game mechanics would be unreadable.

[blahpers]

Diego Rossi wrote:

I think that Touch of Rage would not apply as the damage dealt by most spells is a effect of the spell, not a direct effect of an action you do. An exception would be any spell that give you a weapon like attack, like Flame blade.

I half recall a Dev comments to this tune, but finding it would be difficult. Sadly the sometime the use of colloquia terms instead of specific game terms generate this kind of problem. On the other hand a book where you use only specific terms for game mechanics would be unreadable.

There were some similar discussions on whether smite evil would work on spells for a paladin/sorcerer. I'd be inclined to think that both touch of rage and smite evil would work on a melee or ranged touch spell. No idea regarding other spells that deal damage.